posted April 16, 2025 02:37 AM            

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Originally posted by Randall:
I wouldn’t ever want to live in any country, except for the US of A. All these pro-Palestinian should move there and see how they are treated by the Muslims there, especially the gays and trans people. Good luck.

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I guess it would be in the same ways that they’re being treated by Christian nationalists here. They don’t have to go to what’s left of Palestine, where they would currently be bombed, sniped, and starved in an ongoing genocide.

posted April 16, 2025 02:38 AM            

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Originally posted by PlutoWasHere:
Nope, I'm not a globalist. I think corporations are not always acting in the people's best interest. They need to be kept in check by government. But that's not what Trump is doing. He's actually putting more power into the hands of corporations. Creating a bigger wealth gap.

I'm from North Western Europe. A capitalism and socialism hybrid. We were one of the first countries to legalize same sex marriage, being trans or gender fluid is not an issue in my country. And it's functioning pretty well. Even though ultra right wing news outlets like to pretend we're almost broke and overrun with criminal migrants. We have our issues, but we score really well in hapiness, health, education, equality and safety. Usually we're in the top 10 of those statistics.

I have a very good life. I'm well educated, I have good job market perspectives, I'm healthy, have my own house, no financial worries. Kids are doing well too. And even if I would get sick, I wouldn't lose my job or go bankrupt due to healthcare costs. I have savings. I went to Venice with my kids last year, and will be going to Sicily with them next week. I'm actually living, not just surviving. Yet according to MAGA I should be miserable and living in hell on earth. But that just isn't true. When you look at the most liberal countries versus the most conservative countries, don't you see a trend? Most people that live in authoritarian regimes are miserable. Sweden, Norway, Denmark, Finland, Iceland, Luxemburg, Switzerland, The Netherlands and Germany all have policies that MAGA considers woke, liberal, toxic, socialism and truly what would end society.

Google "most conservative countries" and tell me you would like to live in those countries? Would you want to live in Afghanistan, Iran, Yemen, North Korea or Russia? Abortion bans, trad wives, no trans and gay, protectionism and the "our country is the greatest" attitude. But also theocracies, overglorified leaders, militarized societies, rampant nepotism and corruption, a small ridiculously wealthy elite and a huge poor and oppressed working class population. This is all connected. You see it all around you, and still you will choose this with all your chest?

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posted April 16, 2025 02:39 AM            

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Originally posted by Randall:
You sound like a parrot. Try some rational thought. The decline of major diseases were on a steep decline BEFORE the introduction of vaccines (because viruses attenuate), and in countries that didn't have a vaccine.

I know you're a globalist who thinks that America should bow the knee to all other nations, but President Trump isn't Obama. He isn't putting with that shite. And no, that's not a consumption tax because no one has to buy foreign goods. We get to choose what we buy. That's not a tax.

Why are you so concerned about what Americans pay? I somehow think that you are more concerned about criticizing President Trump. Did you see how he was treated at the UFC event recently? That is how his voters feel about him. We are going to stick it out and watch the Golden Age emerge.

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posted April 16, 2025 07:07 AM            

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Originally posted by teasel:
I guess it would be in the same ways that they’re being treated by Christian nationalists here. They don’t have to go to what’s left of Palestine, where they would currently be bombed, sniped, and starved in an ongoing genocide.

I got to grow up in a country with free healthcare. I was so lucky.

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posted April 16, 2025 07:49 AM            

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Originally posted by Randall:
Gay people are thrown off roofs here?

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Gay people are thrown of the roofs in conservative countries. The more conservative they are, the bigger the risk of being thrown of the roof for deviating from the "norm".

The U.S. is on a very slippery path. Christian nationalists are gaining political influence. These are the same people that see Putin as an example. And this is part of the reason why Trump keeps claiming that Ukraine is the aggressor.

posted April 16, 2025 07:56 AM            

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Originally posted by Randall:
You're the most irrational person here, so you would not be one to judge rationality.

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Don't confuse passionate with irrational.

posted April 18, 2025 02:07 AM            

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Originally posted by Randall:
You're the most irrational person here, so you would not be one to judge rationality.

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posted April 18, 2025 02:08 AM            

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Originally posted by PlutoWasHere:
Don't confuse passionate with irrational.

I truly don't understand, how you cannot see what is happening. How can you keep defending the deconstruction of your own country. I can understand how you want change, but don't set your house on fire for the sake of change.

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