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posted June 03, 2025 05:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for teasel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Trump administration revokes guidance requiring hospitals to provide emergency abortions

http://apnews.com/article/abortion-emtala-biden-trump-emergency-hospital-3640bff165dac1d28b91e8adee7e47dd


The supposedly wondrous protector of women, did what now?

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posted June 03, 2025 05:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for teasel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
WASHINGTON (AP) — The Trump administration announced on Tuesday that it would revoke guidance to the nation’s hospitals that directed them to provide emergency abortions for women when they are necessary to stabilize their medical condition.

That guidance was issued to hospitals in 2022, weeks after the U.S. Supreme Court upended national abortion rights in the U.S. It was an effort by the Biden administration to preserve abortion access for extreme cases in which women were experiencing medical emergencies and needed an abortion to prevent organ loss or severe hemorrhaging, among other serious complications.

The Biden administration had argued that hospitals — including states with near-total bans — needed to provide emergency abortions under the Emergency Medical Treatment and Active Labor Act. That law requires emergency rooms that receive Medicare dollars to provide an exam and stabilizing treatment for all patients. Nearly all emergency rooms in the U.S. rely on Medicare funds.

The Trump administration announced on Tuesday that it would no longer enforce that policy The move prompted concerns from some doctors and abortion rights advocates that women will not get emergency abortions in states with strict bans.

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posted June 03, 2025 05:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for teasel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
MAGA hates women, and children. They do not care about you.

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posted June 03, 2025 05:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The Dems have long abandoned women for trans. Dems have destroyed safe spaces for women. Dems have long abandoned children for open borders and illegal aliens. Biden lost thousands of kids that were sold into slavery. Crickets!

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posted June 03, 2025 06:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for teasel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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The Dems have long abandoned women for trans. Dems have destroyed safe spaces for women. Dems have long abandoned children for open borders and illegal aliens. Biden lost thousands of kids that were sold into slavery. Crickets!

No they haven't. You're just throwing out propaganda, trying to distract from the fact that he does not care about women, and that more women will die because of this.

Why aren't you concerned about pregnant women, Randall? Why aren't you concerned about *their* health? About keeping *them* alive? And why isn't he concerned with that, either?

The laws are all about controlling women, and eventually rolling back the rest of our rights. That's it.

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posted June 03, 2025 06:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for teasel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
"But the Dems" is always the response. Always. Or an implication about me, and other posters who are against what the trump administration is doing. And it's always a lie about us.

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posted June 03, 2025 06:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for teasel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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WASHINGTON (AP) — The Trump administration announced on Tuesday that it would revoke guidance to the nation’s hospitals that directed them to provide emergency abortions for women when they are necessary to stabilize their medical condition.

That guidance was issued to hospitals in 2022, weeks after the U.S. Supreme Court upended national abortion rights in the U.S. It was an effort by the Biden administration to preserve abortion access for extreme cases in which women were experiencing medical emergencies and needed an abortion to prevent organ loss or severe hemorrhaging, among other serious complications.

The Biden administration had argued that hospitals — including states with near-total bans — needed to provide emergency abortions under the Emergency Medical Treatment and Active Labor Act. That law requires emergency rooms that receive Medicare dollars to provide an exam and stabilizing treatment for all patients. Nearly all emergency rooms in the U.S. rely on Medicare funds.

The Trump administration announced on Tuesday that it would no longer enforce that policy The move prompted concerns from some doctors and abortion rights advocates that women will not get emergency abortions in states with strict bans.


SO. Why doesn't this concern you?

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posted June 03, 2025 06:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Dems do not care about women or children. Dems are okay with men clobbering women in sports, men in women’s bathrooms, locker rooms, and prisons. Dems have abandoned women. Dems don’t care about children. Dems are okay with giving children puberty blockers and mutilating their bodies. Dems are the radicals.

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posted June 04, 2025 01:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for teasel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Bump.

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My goodness, you are so obsessed with abortion, like it's the best thing on planet earth...

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My goodness, you are so obsessed with abortion, like it's the best thing on planet earth...

Seriously.

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posted June 06, 2025 01:34 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for teasel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted June 06, 2025 03:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for teasel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
bump.

MAGA hates women, and doesn't care if we die.

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posted June 09, 2025 03:51 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for teasel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted June 09, 2025 04:17 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for PlutoWasHere     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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My goodness, you are so obsessed with abortion, like it's the best thing on planet earth...

I know you have blocked me, but others can still see my posts.

<My goodness, you are so obsessed with health care, like not dying is the best thing on planet earth...>

Because that's what this is about, health care. You know, actually preventing women from dying. Sometimes that requires an abortion and there's nothing wrong with that. I don't understand people are screaming they're pro-life, but are perfectly happy denying women life saving health care.

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posted June 09, 2025 04:30 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for PlutoWasHere     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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The Dems have long abandoned women for trans. Dems have destroyed safe spaces for women. Dems have long abandoned children for open borders and illegal aliens. Biden lost thousands of kids that were sold into slavery. Crickets!

So, because you hate Democrats pregnant women deserve to die?

Women are no longer receiving life saving health care. How is this policy the fault of trans kids, illegal immigrants and Biden?


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posted June 09, 2025 04:46 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I said nothing about pregnant women deserving to die. Has a single pregnant women died from this? The policy will not be enforced by the Trump administration. Hospitals can choose what they will do. The last time teasel posted an article about something similar happening to a pregnant woman in Georgia, Belage thoroughly debunked it. And every single anti-abortion law has exceptions for the life of the mother. Just more lies from the left to stoke fear.

I was responding to teasel’s accusation that we don’t care about women or children, to show that she only cares about abortion. In many other instances, she chooses other interests over women’s rights and safe spaces. And teasel said I am “just throwing out propaganda to distract,” when she knows every word I said is true.

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posted June 09, 2025 07:20 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for PlutoWasHere     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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I said nothing about pregnant women deserving to die. Has a single pregnant women died from this? The policy will not be enforced by the Trump administration. Hospitals can choose what they will do. The last time teasel posted an article about something similar happening to a pregnant woman in Georgia, Belage thoroughly debunked it. And every single anti-abortion law has exceptions for the life of the mother. Just more lies from the left to stoke fear.

No, it's not fear mongering. It has happened, and will happen again. And this is an emergency procedure and waiting too long, even if the woman doesn't die, will still cause irreversible harm.

Google Josseli Barnica, Nevaeh Crain and Porsha Ngumezi. But also Christina Zielke, Kate Cox, Amanda Zurowski and Ryan Hamilton's wife.

And women dying in childbirth is not new. The risk has always existed. You can't say childbirth is risk free. And these policies make it worse. Obviously. You can't create hurdles for emergency procedures and claim it doesn't have any consequences. There have been several media stories that show that it's very difficult for hospitals to implement the very vague exceptions for abortion. Out of fear they wait until the very last moment. This leads to unnecessary suffering and health risks.

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I was responding to teasel’s accusation that we don’t care about women or children, to show that she only cares about abortion. In many other instances, she chooses other interests over women’s rights and safe spaces. And teasel said I am “just throwing out propaganda to distract,” when she knows every word I said is true.

But you're not reacting to the actual issue. You choose to divert the discussion to Republican vs Democrat, because that's what you want to be angry about.

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posted June 09, 2025 10:56 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I did respond to the actual issue. Dems have abandoned women and children for illegal migrants, who are crashing the Medicaid system. Crickets!

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I did respond to the actual issue. Dems have abandoned women and children for illegal migrants, who are crashing the Medicaid system. Crickets!

Medicaid is crashed by corporate greed. The prices for medication and treatments are ridiculous in the U.S. In Europe universal healthcare is working a lot better than the U.S. system. U.S. costs per capita are about 50% higher but outcomes are similar. It has nothing to do with illegals.

And you do understand that without immigrants the hospitals would be in trouble, right? Around 2.8 million immigrants are working in healthcare, thats about 18% of all healthcare workers (2021). Deportation and tax cuts are going to mess up your health care.

Stop blaming immigrants for the mess Trump is making.

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posted June 09, 2025 12:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have no problem with immigrants. My issue is with illegal immigrants. Biden had an open border. President Trump is fixing this mess that Biden caused.

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I have no problem with immigrants. My issue is with illegal immigrants. Biden had an open border. President Trump is fixing this mess that Biden caused.

You can't claim someone is illegal if there's no due process. The correct procedure needs to be followed. That's in the constitution.


And Trump is making a farce of the immigration process by selling "gold cards" for 5 million dollars. Only poor people can be illegal?

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posted June 09, 2025 02:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for PlutoWasHere     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
And didn't Trump allow 17 members of the <El Chapo> crime family to cross the border after making a deal with one of their imprisoned family members?

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posted June 09, 2025 02:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You don't know what you're talking about. You are illegal once you enter this country by crossing the border. That requires no due process to determine. That's not in the Constitution. Due process only applies for asylum claims, and then you get a hearing date. If you miss that date, you are deportable. If you return after being deported, that is a felony. Paying $5 million to enter the country then makes you legal. These people will contribute to society and provide jobs.

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You don't know what you're talking about. You are illegal once you enter this country by crossing the border. That requires no due process to determine. That's not in the Constitution. Due process only applies for asylum claims, and then you get a hearing date. If you miss that date, you are deportable. If you return after being deported, that is a felony. Paying $5 million to enter the country then makes you legal. These people will contribute to society and provide jobs.

The illegal immigrants picking strawberries also contribute to society. Just because someone's rich, doesn't make them a good person. Lots of criminals are rich too. Do you want the Russian mob in the U.S.?

All people have right to fair treatment. The 5th and 14th ammendments include everyone within the borders of the U.S. You can't randomly be deported to a prison to El Salvador. Unlawful presence is not a criminal offense.

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