posted June 11, 2025 02:28 AM            

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Originally posted by Belage2:
Very good expose by Karlyn Borysenko that details how the left planned the riots:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z1_J2mlqNek

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posted June 11, 2025 03:00 AM            

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Originally posted by PlutoWasHere:
Maybe stop listening to self proclaimed experts that have no actual proof.

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posted June 11, 2025 03:48 AM            

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.

source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_Amendment_to_the_United_States_Constitution

<Trump told reporters in the Oval Office that they're going to be "celebrating big on Saturday," referring to the parade that will wind its way through downtown Washington, D.C. "If there’s any protester that wants to come out, they will be met with very big force," Trump said. "I haven’t even heard about a protest, but you know, this is people that hate our country, but they will be met with very heavy force.">

source: http://www.nbcnews.com/politics/white-house/trump-warns-mil itary-parade-protesters-will-face-heavy-force-rcna212136

I'm pretty sure people are planning to protest against Trump and not against the U.S. Only Kings would think any protest against them is a protest against the country.

posted June 11, 2025 05:23 AM            

Second, I do not support someone bring shot with a rubber bullet, if that actually happened.

posted June 11, 2025 07:35 AM            

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Originally posted by Randall:
First of all, these anarchist groups use protests to organize violence. They were breaking cinder blocks with hammers to throw at police. You are in denial. You claim there were no fireworks. Commercial grade fireworks were used on the police under the bridge whose vehicles were pelted with rocks.

Second, I do not support someone bring shot with a rubber bullet, if that actually happened.

Third, protesters are cleared all the time to protect the President. Nothing new there. Protesters have to get a permit to protest. A permit will not be issued if there is a good reason. Proximity to the President will be a good reason. The LA protesters were unlawful because they had no permit.

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[1] No, not all protests are violent. You can't ban all protests. Just because people criticize the current president and his policies that doesn't make them violent anarchist extremists. The 1st amendment protects the right to peaceful assembly and petition the goverment.

[2] No, people are getting shot. Those are facts, you can't claim that isn't true. There's footage of people being shot and there are eye-witness accounts. Including an Australian journalist who has confirmed she was shot and the Australian prime minister has even reacted to that.

http://www.msn.com/en-us/new s/us/that-footage-was-horrific-australian-pm-bashes-nonlethal-shooting-of-reporter-in-la/ar-AA1GrKlc?ocid=BingNewsSerp

[3] No, you don't need a permit for every protest but you need to follow certain rules. You're not allowed to block traffic or use sound amplifying devices without a permit. But as long as you follow the rules you can protest without a permit.

http://www.aclu.org/know-your-rights/protesters-rights

posted June 11, 2025 08:02 AM            

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Originally posted by Randall:
First of all, these anarchist groups use protests to organize violence. They were breaking cinder blocks with hammers to throw at police. You are in denial. You claim there were no fireworks. Commercial grade fireworks were used on the police under the bridge whose vehicles were pelted with rocks.

Second, I do not support someone bring shot with a rubber bullet, if that actually happened.

Third, protesters are cleared all the time to protect the President. Nothing new there. Protesters have to get a permit to protest. A permit will not be issued if there is a good reason. Proximity to the President will be a good reason. The LA protesters were unlawful because they had no permit.

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Also, I never claimed there were <NO> fireworks. I said the dramatic footage of LAPD being attacked by fireworks that was circulating social media, was 2020 footage. I'm not saying there's <NO> violence. But I'm saying old footage was used to make the current protests look way more violent than they actually are to serve a certain political agenda. I'm saying it was illegal for Trump to deploy the national guard without a request or even consent from the state. And I'm also saying L.A. is not being invaded by a <foreign enemy> like Trump claims.

posted June 11, 2025 08:23 AM            

<...During the United States’ long Civil War, no Confederate flag came within the shadow of the US Capitol, but on January 6, 2021, an insurrectionist carried one right through its halls.>
http://edition.cnn.com/2021/01/07/us/capitol-confederate-flag-fort-stevens/

<...Kevin Seefried,... January 6 United States Capitol attacker who threatened police officer Eugene Goodman. Images of Seefried carrying the Confederate battle flag inside the Capitol became one of the most recognizable images of the attack. In 2023, he was sentenced to three years in prison for his role in the attack. Seefried was released from prison on May 31, 2024, having served more than one year of his sentence. On January 20, 2025, the first day of the second presidency of Donald Trump, Seefried was pardoned along with nearly every other participant in the Capitol attack.>
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kevin_Seefried

<...President Donald Trump said Tuesday he has ordered the restoration of the names of several US military bases that honored officers who fought for the Confederacy in the American Civil War.>
http://www.france24.com/en/live-news/20250611-trump-orders-na mes-restored-to-military-bases-honoring-confederates

posted June 11, 2025 09:43 AM            

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Originally posted by PlutoWasHere:
And who is the real insurrectionist?

<...During the United States’ long Civil War, no Confederate flag came within the shadow of the US Capitol, but on January 6, 2021, an insurrectionist carried one right through its halls.>
http://edition.cnn.com/2021/01/07/us/capitol-confederate-flag-fort-stevens/

<...Kevin Seefried,... January 6 United States Capitol attacker who threatened police officer Eugene Goodman. Images of Seefried carrying the Confederate battle flag inside the Capitol became one of the most recognizable images of the attack. In 2023, he was sentenced to three years in prison for his role in the attack. Seefried was released from prison on May 31, 2024, having served more than one year of his sentence. On January 20, 2025, the first day of the second presidency of Donald Trump, Seefried was pardoned along with nearly every other participant in the Capitol attack.>
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kevin_Seefried

<...President Donald Trump said Tuesday he has ordered the restoration of the names of several US military bases that honored officers who fought for the Confederacy in the American Civil War.>
http://www.france24.com/en/live-news/20250611-trump-orders-na mes-restored-to-military-bases-honoring-confederates

<...Donald Trump claimed the American Civil War — fought over slavery — could have been negotiated and need not have happened.>
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/donal d-trump-civil-war-negotiated-b2474401.html

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posted June 11, 2025 08:29 PM            

- You, Randall, four years ago on July 4th.

posted June 12, 2025 01:48 PM            

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Originally posted by Randall:
I don't think your posts on this thread supported insurrection. Thank God those bases have been returned to their original names. That is history. You cannot sanitize history. Fort Benning and Fort Bragg were renamed but after different people. The other bases probably were, as well.

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You cannot sanitize history? Renaming your military bases because you don't want them to honor traitors is not sanitizing history, it's about recognizing what is right and what is wrong. Confederate generals were on the wrong side of history, they fought for slavery, they were traitors. Their names are tainted and only used by people that want to glorify certain ideologies. This is the reason no one in Europe will name their child Adolf unless they're neo naz1 lunat1cs.