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Topic: Trauma ---HOW you process it?
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Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 9399 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010
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posted November 06, 2010 12:37 PM
You know ,DD, I have a CLEAR vision of where I want to be. I will try to share it later. ------------------ Pluto conjunct Dejanira, Girlfriend. IP: Logged |
DD Knowflake Posts: 7054 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted November 06, 2010 12:38 PM
So, in your heart you still believe, you are bad.But what is that makes you "bad"? Have you ever considered helping / assisting other people? I am talking about practical "jobs", like helping out at a retirement centre, or giving assistance to disabled persons, like just spending time with them, helping them make their life more colourful?
You know bad people donīt do things like that.
What I am trying to say is that sometimes analysing will push you into a circle of thoughts, that you can`t escape, and it will not lead to the desired result. Sometimes you jsut have to go out into the world and DO something good. For other people. You will feel how much this will enrich you, too. I feel right now you are just stuck emotionally; and getting out, shifting the focus onto other things / people, might help you to shift your perception of you, too.
Oh and just repeat to yourself: I deserve to be happy.
Again and again. For days. Weeks. MOnths, Years if necessary. At one point it will eradicate what you mother said to you, and you will start to believe it. But you have to put GOOD energy / thoughts against the negativity you experienced. (That doesn`t negate the impact of these negative experiences; but reviving them again and again hasn`t really helped you till now, has it? Maybe you are more the person suitable for a "behavioural therapy " than a mere analytical one). IP: Logged |
Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 9399 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010
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posted November 06, 2010 12:41 PM
Well,DD, you make important points BUT they will NOT heal the trauma. They are valid in and of themselves but they are not able to heal what I am talking about. If you are really interested in what I mean study the healing of trauma and right brain therapy,DD. We are really talking about two different things ------------------ Pluto conjunct Dejanira, Girlfriend. IP: Logged |
DD Knowflake Posts: 7054 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted November 06, 2010 12:42 PM
I just remembered one incident with my mom.I was pressing onto a spot on my arm, a blue spot, and was twisting my face. My mum asked me what that grimace was about. I said: "If I press that area there, it hurts." My Mom just said: "Then donīt press it."
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starkiss1 Knowflake Posts: 1596 From: Registered: Jul 2009
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posted November 06, 2010 12:44 PM
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DD Knowflake Posts: 7054 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted November 06, 2010 12:45 PM
*taking a bow*I wish you well, Ami, I really hope you are finding what you are searching for. Farewell.
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Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 9399 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010
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posted November 06, 2010 12:46 PM
Thank you, DD ------------------ Pluto conjunct Dejanira, Girlfriend. IP: Logged |
popcorn Knowflake Posts: 2167 From: Registered: Aug 2009
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posted November 06, 2010 12:46 PM
Learn from what we say in my country dandelion children. Children who going through trauma and crises and lived in a very very bad family affairs. This children going through the life without any problem. Strong surviver instinct. They going through this trauman unaffected.They focus on positive things, people, thoughts and so on. Learn from this strong people. There is an utopia to think there will be no crises and traumas in the life. Everybody be or will be drabbed. IP: Logged |
Lara unregistered
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posted November 06, 2010 12:48 PM
Ok so right brain therapy is for BRAIN TRAUMA. So you have a traumatic brain injury. btw right-hand brain is the unconscious brain. If however, you speak of Freud's analysis and interp of trauma then l no longer hold his view as it is outdated.
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Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 9399 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010
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posted November 06, 2010 12:55 PM
To put this simply, IF a person's life is working and they are NOT being driven by parts of themselves they have hidden, they have no need for right brain trauma healing. I know people who don't. They did not have to shut themselves down as children and so they have access to their feelings and as such can make choices in their lives that work.This is for people whose lives do NOT work.They have SOME issue of pain which is disrupting their life such as those I mentioned.
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posted November 06, 2010 01:01 PM
Popcorn,I salute you. Truly, you made a lot of truth in your post. I am one of those children that you speak of and now l try to assist others whom see a mountain to climb by explaining that it's not that bad! I survived horrors. I would have loved a life of a parent just putting me down and nothing else - gosh, how easy that would have been on me instead of the hand l dealt myself. I don't complain though because l am not ruled by my past. I decided a long time ago to not let anything negative continue to be effectual upon me and BOOM, l unlock everything in one instant and it disappeared. This is after years of constructive work on myself!! Anyway, to you for your intuit insight. It is very refreshing. IP: Logged |
Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 9399 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010
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posted November 06, 2010 01:03 PM
If someone's life is working, I am very,very,very happy for that. Mine is not .That is why I am searching ways to make it work in the ways that make sense to me. I want to extend my hand to others who want to give their hands back to me as many on LL do. There is nothing more complicated than that.
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Lara unregistered
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posted November 06, 2010 01:04 PM
Ami,HAVE TO doesn't not exist... everything is a choice and l can't help but feel that you are so comfortable in your present state that you do not wish to step outside of it. I understand that but know this - talking about your trauma and healing it through RH brain therapy is not going to work because only YOU can open YOU up enough to sedate the inner child enough to get past her to YOURSELF. So if you don't risk, then the child will just keep on winning, and thats not a pov, thats psychology IP: Logged |
PlutoSquared Moderator Posts: 4336 From: Mars Registered: Aug 2010
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posted November 06, 2010 01:05 PM
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Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 9399 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010
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posted November 06, 2010 01:07 PM
Thank you Pluto Squared ------------------ Pluto conjunct Dejanira, Girlfriend. IP: Logged |
Lara unregistered
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posted November 06, 2010 01:09 PM
Pluto, you are so ****** up! Trust me, no one on here would never kick anything nor anyone to walk to heel. How dare you be so damn rude to anyone on LL!! Why are you so resentful? What's eating your aries stick huh? Just take a leaf out of the pisces babe on your right and chill... or even better get a massage off your sister taurus! IP: Logged |
Lucia23 Knowflake Posts: 2394 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted November 06, 2010 01:09 PM
quote: just remembered one incident with my mom. I was pressing onto a spot on my arm, a blue spot, and was twisting my face. My mum asked me what that grimace was about. I said: "If I press that area there, it hurts." My Mom just said: "Then donīt press it."
(Reading and discussing this completely metaphorically, of course.) Maybe your mother's advice was irrelevent. The sore, blue spot on the child's arm is there for a reason. It could be that she got a little bump, and it can be left alone, but: -excess bruising might be a sign there's a problem with the child's nutrition that needs to be addressed by a medical consultation/change of diet -the bruise could be an indication that someone else has physically harmed the child. Sometimes our (real and metaphorical) bruises and wounds just need to be left alone to heal over time. But sometimes a wound, bruise or mark is there as a screaming signal from your (physical, psychic, or emotional) body to your conscious mind, telling you there's a problem that must be addressed. If a child was being physically abused or was ill, it would be negligent of the parent to ignore the signs. "Then don't press it" is NOT always a healthy response. Sometimes a healthy response is: "How did you get that bruise? Do you have others?" And if the bruise might be a sign of illness, abuse, or another ONGOING problem--then time to get help. If someone is struggling with the aftermath of trauma--for example, an adult is dealing with the aftereffects of her mother abusing her--sometimes the "bruises" are there because the person needs to realize that she is still in danger, still involved with the abuser or another abuser, in a toxic situation she needs to take her adult self out of... IP: Logged |
Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 9399 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010
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posted November 06, 2010 01:12 PM
Lara I really want to get on with the subject matter not call names to people on LL, if you would kindly oblige. ------------------ Pluto conjunct Dejanira, Girlfriend.
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Lucia23 Knowflake Posts: 2394 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted November 06, 2010 01:15 PM
Ami Anne, to answer your original post...Lots of families are characterized by toxic, undermining patterns even without overt, "bad" abuse. But also, IMO, the various societies people live in can be corrosive to self-esteem! I think it takes creativity, love, and perserverence for ANYONE to have a fun, happy, healthy life, even if they are not victims of overt abuse. I wish a fun, happy, healthy life just came naturally--it ought to be everyone's birthright--but it seems we have to work at it. IP: Logged |
PlutoSquared Moderator Posts: 4336 From: Mars Registered: Aug 2010
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posted November 06, 2010 01:18 PM
Lucia23,Sometimes our (real and metaphorical) bruises and wounds just need to be left alone to heal over time. But sometimes a wound, bruise or mark is there as a screaming signal from your (physical, psychic, or emotional) body to your conscious mind, telling you there's a problem that must be addressed. If a child was being physically abused or was ill, it would be negligent of the parent to ignore the signs. "Then don't press it" is NOT always a healthy response. Sometimes a healthy response is: "How did you get that bruise? Do you have others?" And if the bruise might be a sign of illness, abuse, or another ONGOING problem--then time to get help. I agree with what you said, Lucia. Expanding on that idea are the numerous studies that show trauma and abuse cause significant brain damage. Trauma has long lasting effects, especially when started in childhood. IP: Logged |
PlutoSquared Moderator Posts: 4336 From: Mars Registered: Aug 2010
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posted November 06, 2010 01:47 PM
Ami,Have you ever thought that it may not happen, reaching your complete goal of healing? Have you ever considered that, right now, with all the thoughts and pain that you're experiencing, might be that way and not change until the end of your life? If that were to be true, in the future, that you would always feel incomplete and like you're carrying a painful burden, how would you live your life now? If this was as good as it gets? Would you do anything differently? Would you behave differently? Do you think it would be easier or harder to accept yourself? IP: Logged |
Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 9399 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010
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posted November 06, 2010 02:37 PM
I have been contemplating your question, PS. I think the short version of it is "When will you be done processing the trauma and be able to live ?" Actually, I can only answer that,now, after my conference. I met a man and bought all his tapes. He is where I want to be and he describes HOW to get there. He said that he is happy and at peace with himself the great majority of the time. He has learned HOW to be like that. He describes how and I am studying his material. I think I can get there. It will take some time as it is a process.------------------ Pluto conjunct Dejanira, Girlfriend. IP: Logged |
Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 9399 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010
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posted November 06, 2010 02:51 PM
I, already said this ,earlier,but THIS thread is for people whose life is NOT working. If you have something that keeps repeating like unsuccessful relationships : addictions that you can't stop : persistent feelings of hopelessness / sadness : a feeling like you are in a "hole" and can't get out no matter HOW hard you try etc, then this thread can help, I feel quite sure. I am already better after seeing a FEW distortions,only. I have very strong Neptune which may make it harder to see but Neptune is a blessing, too lol This thread is about the WAY we perceive the world and ourselves, basically. ------------------ Pluto conjunct Dejanira, Girlfriend. IP: Logged |
PlutoSquared Moderator Posts: 4336 From: Mars Registered: Aug 2010
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posted November 06, 2010 04:18 PM
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Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 9399 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010
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posted November 06, 2010 04:29 PM
Well, PS. this man is the ONLY person I have ever met who I want to be like. He embodies how *I* want to be. He is strong ,confident, knows who he is but most importantly is very real.His material shows how to heal trauma so I KNOW I will get there .It may take a little time but I know I will,now.' If I could not, I would use my life to help people ,somehow, if only to NOT do what I did ,perhaps. ------------------ Pluto conjunct Dejanira, Girlfriend. IP: Logged |