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Mblake81
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posted February 18, 2011 11:46 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mblake81     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I sure hope so, Because I do not like to get out of hand for no reason.

I am fully aware when I lie. I have no self deceptions about it.

Painfully aware.

I think because I am aware, that is why karma has an effect here that I am aware of as well.

I pay for it when I lie, It drives isolation due to it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gDDjR3RXW_4&feature=related

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Demons = In my view, the negative things we carry around with us, inside, personal.

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posted February 18, 2011 01:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for listenstotrees     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I was ostracized at secondary school (age 11) from my first day because my best friend decided to "dump" me to hang around with "cool people" and I did not know anyone; this meant I was branded a loner and labeled uncool and weird. It was a very difficult time; I will never forget the pains in my stomach at the thought of going, the extreme tiredness induced by insomnia, the depression and unhappy feeling both at school and at home (lots of negativity at home).
The only other difficult time I had had prior to this, that had had a similar effect at a sensitive age, was when I was bullied by a junior school at age 7, and how the children copied some of the derogatory names she called me for not being able to pay attention such as "dopey".

At school I wasn't sure whether it was technically bullying or not, because ot was mainly just a feeling of ostracism over the years, except for when I first started in which I was picked on a bit by that girl I was friends with and her friends, but this later stopped. Anyway many years later she found me on facebook and said she was sorry and she had felt bad all those years. I wasn't worried about it though; I told her it was ok. I had far worse problems at home and a few years later when I was afraid to leave my house for months on end because I was afraid of being severely beaten up by girl gangs, who had decided to make me their target. Eventually I found a way to leave that town and never returned except for a few brief visits years later, which were surreal. I feel that town had a dense energy/ feeling to it- and JK Rowling said the same in an interview, and this is why she chose to use it as a name in her books.....oh what she actually said was the name of the town had a "downbeat" sound to it.

I don't pay much attention to astrology anymore, however I wonder if my Capricorn Ascendant is to blame for difficulties? Lol. The Nasa sounds from Saturn on youtube are peculiar.

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posted February 18, 2011 02:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for listenstotrees     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Even now as an adult, I still carry a lot of the pain from my teens. I still feel I don't fit in/ belong anywhere. I'm 31 in May.

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PlutoSquared
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posted February 18, 2011 03:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for PlutoSquared     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by listenstotrees:
Even now as an adult, I still carry a lot of the pain from my teens. I still feel I don't fit in/ belong anywhere. I'm 31 in May.

I can relate. Maybe you're just meant to be an independent leader type.

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posted February 18, 2011 03:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Dear Listentotrees
What is Dejaneria doing in your chart?

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posted February 18, 2011 04:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for listenstotrees     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by PlutoSquared:
I can relate. Maybe you're just meant to be an independent leader type.

Independent yes, in some ways. Leader, maybe not.

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posted February 18, 2011 04:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for listenstotrees     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
Dear Listentotrees
What is Dejaneria doing in your chart?


I have no idea. Lol.

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Ami Anne
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posted February 18, 2011 04:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Listento trees
Find the asteroid Dejaneria. I BET it has a prominent place in your chart if you had bullying issues.
I have it conjunct Pluto.IQ told me that I was fortunate in that I would fight back.
I am so convinced of the validity of Nessus(the abuser) and Dejaneria(the victim) in the charts.
It is not that simple but for the moment that is an easy explanation lol

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posted February 21, 2011 01:15 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for starzy54     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I was bullied in school.By girls mostly.They'd say i was ugly,too tall,had bad clothes etc.Typical stuff.It caused me to avoid making friends,made me a bit of a loner,and extremely shy and quiet.School was pretty miserable,except for when my teachers praised me for my academics.Eating lunch alone was routine to me.It made me extra attached to my family,because they always gave me the love and acceptance i didn't get anywhere else.

Sometimes,Bad people could see the good in you,and want to corrupt it.They could smell it from miles away.As long as you know God is with you always and surround yourself in his love and acceptance you will come out a winner.

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Ami Anne
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posted February 21, 2011 01:47 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Dear Starzy
I have been thinking about the whole bullying thing.
There is a psychology to it---Social Psychology.
I will be back to write about it,tomorrow

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He who controls his Spirit is greater than he who controls a city
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posted February 21, 2011 10:12 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mblake81     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KY-JedfI85c&feature=related


Safe And Sound lyrics

I realize how you've been broken,
To bear the guilt of sins unspoken,
Your distant eyes and pained expression,
Unrecognized in your reflection,

Where do you run to now?
When will you ever feel safe and sound?

Yeah

I understand they once controlled you,
Condemned your thoughts and never told you,
Erased your self-esteem and trust,
Stripped down to nothing,
The innocence of a child that's forever lost

And no-one can hurt you now,
You're here and you're safe and sound
Safe and sound, oh yeah,
Where do you run to now?
When will you ever feel safe and sound?
Safe and sound, you're safe and sound, no

And no-one can hurt you now,
Now that you're here you're safe and sound
Safe and sound, oh yeah,
Where do you run to now?
When will you ever feel safe and sound?
Safe and sound, you're safe and sound, safe and sound

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Mblake81
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posted February 21, 2011 10:24 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mblake81     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
*Language:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9DSIVCEvxLQ&feature=related

Temptation lyrics

It craws down deep inside
Without a pulse or a will to die
Now I have known the simplifies
And now it takes what it takes
Unless the feeling suffocates
Its nothing new, it'll get its way
Another thing that I will see
Is how it gets inside of me
And tears away my life

It's time to love, its time to hate
It's coming face to face trying to desecrate
No time at all to break away
Temptation still got a hold on me

It's awake even when you sleep
It breathes without a heartbeat
Making me incomplete
And now I know what I know
Expect the demon(1) down below to surface through my moral soul
And now it looks to be smiling as it's killing me

Day to day I lie

It's time to love, its time to hate
It's coming face to face trying to desecrate
No time at all to break away
Temptation still got a hold on me
It's time to love, its time to hate
It's coming face to face trying to desecrate
No time at all to break away
Temptation still got a hold on me

It's time to love, its time to hate
It's coming face to face trying to desecrate
No time at all to break away
Temptation still got a hold on me
It's time to love, its time to hate
It's coming face to face trying to desecrate
No time at all to break away
Temptation still got a hold on me


(1) Demon in my view, is the personal ones a person carries around with them. They must be dealt with, or remain a broken person.

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posted February 22, 2011 02:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for soulful122     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yup. As if emotional and physical abuse at home wasn't enough, I also got picked on by some of the boys in grade school. Not fun at all. I remember being really quiet.. awkward, and to add insult, I dressed funny (my older brother's hand-me-downs) so.. I was a pretty easy target. There were times I wished I would die in my sleep, I dreaded waking up. Luckily the bullying didn't last too long, I eventually told my brother what was happening and he took care of it. Him and his buddies chased and jumped the guys that picked on me. That feeling of power over the bullies.. it was truly intoxicating. Looking back now, I feel bad, but that's pretty much how I learned to deal with them.

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posted March 08, 2011 06:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I remember in 6th grade, I was in the Boy's room, and a bully was pushing people around, and I went up to him and punched him in the face. He ran to the teacher and told on me, and she outright called him a liar. Randy would never do such a thing. lol I hate bullies. I have always rooted for the underdog. I was a straight A student and every teacher's pet. Of course, I confessed to it (much to everyone's shock). The teacher had no choice but to send us both to the principal's office. The principal gave the "victim" a stern talking-to, and all he told me was "Congratulations." I had won the local newspaper's advertising project for the school. I got a big box of candy as my prize from the school. So, that's my exposure to bullying. Oh, and I was a hero for a while.

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posted March 08, 2011 07:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Randall
That is so sweet. I am gonna remember that

I have a friend who was the same way.He was strong and an athlete but he would NEVER let anyone be picked on
I love that.It restores my faith in humanity lol

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posted March 09, 2011 01:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for PixieJane     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
For the most part I was more shunned than bullied, but the shunning wasn't total. I was just banned from the cool kids but I still had friends of my own so I didn't care.

I was first shunned at age 6, IIRC, because in my play I was showing the dysfunction of my home and the girls froze me out. I had to play with boys for a few years and that got tiresome and I was so glad when another shunned girl showed up and we became best friends when we were 10.

In the Bible Belt I was mostly shunned but there were enough outcasts that I mixed with. Also I was in a family that stuck together, so even though they might not like me too much at times they'd jump on anyone outside the family who gave me too much grief. That was a relief because in being accused of being a satanist I was also accused of being a **** and my initials BJ (for Becky Jane) for said to be my "specialty" (BJ for blow jobs), even though I had delayed puberty. Girls were especially cruel, but guys who got too menacing had my older male cousins ready to kick their butts.

There was only 1 major incident of bullying in high school for me where the cheerleaders (who terrorized the unpopular at that school, along with the jocks) decided to torment me. I hated them for what they did to others (including driving one to suicide and putting another in the hospital when they "forgot" to catch her among other things) and when they came onto me I said no way. By then I'd been a runaway on the streets and had faced far worse than them (and plus I have so many planets in Sag with a Leo ascendant...) and I attacked the head cheerleader while the others just watched & shrieked at me while I beat her up (though she was bigger than me). It ended when her boyfriend pulled me off her and punched me so hard in the face I couldn't even walk straight without help. Then my male classmates (ABC, or Adaptive Behavior Class) jumped the jock who punched me and put him in the hospital.

The next morning I was called into the office and the principal tried to make me feel guilty though I had a hard time talking given that one side of my face was swollen from being punched by that jock. I got in trouble (as did my classmates) and the cheerleaders & jocks got off free of course.

The cheerleaders tried to get the rest of the school to shun me but as I was in ABC there wasn't much point (we were pretty much kept separate from the rest of the school anyway). They tried to get another ABC girl from having anything to do with me by accusing us of being lesbians. To show how much we cared we pretended to kiss right in front of them and they never bothered us again. I think it occurred to them that not only could I kick some cheerleader butt again but might do OTHER things as well.

Luckily my experiences haven't damaged me. I know many aren't so fortunate.

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posted March 11, 2011 07:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

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posted March 13, 2011 06:47 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for soulful122     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
PixieJane, your principle is so unfair, :/ I would of been p1ssed!

Well.. I couldn't sleep tonight, so here's a music video with a humorous take on bullying/revenge..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q2I0ulTZWXA

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posted March 13, 2011 11:37 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
This is my consensus about bullying .
One MUST be able to be a strong person.
Bullying cannot be taken away.
It is inherent within humans to bully.
IT IS THE ATYPICAL PERSON WHO DOES NOT BULLY.
There are those people but they are rare.
They don't have to hurt someone else to HIDE from themselves.
That being said, there is no pristine environment to which one can run where this (and other human flawed behaviors) will not exist.

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posted March 13, 2011 11:41 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I think this falls under the heading that "this is a fallen world", as the Bible calls it.

I was thinking about this last night.
There ARE certain truths in life.
One can accept them or forever fall in to holes running from them.

One is that bullying and it's ancillary behaviors will always exist as long as there are humans.
The other is that we are alone.
No amount of popularity will change that.

Being liked does not equal being safe or being OK :just in our OWN minds.

Being safe and being OK is determined by entirely different things.
I am trying to formulate what they are.

I learn from my usual ways --- screwing up

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Jesus never put his trust in man cuz he knew what was in man.
He who controls his Spirit is greater than he who controls a city
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posted March 13, 2011 11:47 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I think one must know oneself, what one is capable of.
This is the key ,I think.
Accept what is within you.Know what is within you.
Know you are capable of the madness of everyone else.
Then----Do Good.

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He who controls his Spirit is greater than he who controls a city
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posted March 13, 2011 11:59 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for EverEvolvingSpirit     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by listenstotrees:
Even now as an adult, I still carry a lot of the pain from my teens. I still feel I don't fit in/ belong anywhere. I'm 31 in May.

I use this feeling to my advantage and see myself as a rare breed. Also, the more open I am with others, the more in place I feel I wasn't as open in my teens.

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posted March 14, 2011 11:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

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posted March 14, 2011 11:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for teasel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by listenstotrees:
Even now as an adult, I still carry a lot of the pain from my teens. I still feel I don't fit in/ belong anywhere. I'm 31 in May.

Me, too LTT. That's why something hit me so hard in December.

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