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SunChild
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posted December 16, 2010 10:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SunChild     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I was. I tried to become friends with the 'cool' group so it would stop, but I wasn't cool enough. Now i look back I'm glad they didn't like me. The bullies were mostly boys and one girl, had a boy spit in my hair, been kicked in the shins by a older girl for laughs, got called 'fartarata' regularly by a big bully boy(have no idea why as i never farted in public lol), got called 'ugly dog' , and the worst was being head slammed into a parked car and got a blood nose. god kids are cruel... my children are being home schooled and then Steiner school for the formal education.
I don't want them to go threw sh!t like that, and my mum never knew because I was too embarrassed to tell her.

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posted December 16, 2010 10:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for NickiG     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
other kids never bullied me to my face but i always knew they did...so it was severely psychological for me (not that one form of bullying is worse psychologically than other forms)....the counselor would ask me "what sort of names do they call you?" um..i dunno, they never say it to my face, duh, i just told you that, and "well how do you know?" i'm a scorpio, thats how...i always knew when someone talked about me..until recently i didnt know how or why i knew i just knew....i never had hard proof but i could tell....the other kids always avoided me and i could hear them whisper sometimes sooo yea...oh and because of this experience in my childhood it took me until my teenage years to learn to make friends and i'm emotionally "behind" so to say...maybe its the strong gemini influence but i act much younger than my age

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posted December 17, 2010 04:40 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I am so sorry you went through this

Sun
Nicki

I know Nicki has good Nessus/Deja aspects cuz we have discussed it.
What aspects do your Nessus and Deja make ,Sunchild?
Also, what aspects does your Pluto make?

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Ami Anne
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posted December 17, 2010 04:46 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Social Psychology has always been my passion. I would have gotten a Phd in it if there would have been any work besides teaching.

My larger point is that people act differently in groups.
People in a group will do things a person would NEVER do as a single individual.
The group "shields" people from their individual "conscience" .
People in a group "feel "they don't have to account for their own actions so can do things they never would do ,alone.
The group gives a sense of anonymity to the individual and the group becomes the "individual", the "one" i.e the mob of bullies


I can talk more about it, tomorrow.
Read up on the Milgrim experiment.
It answers so any questions on "why bullying?"
At the end of studying the Milgrim experiemnt, many of your questions will be answered.

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popcorn
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posted December 17, 2010 06:26 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for popcorn     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Of course I felt me bullied. I think everyone done. I always went to my mother on that time and she go to the teacher and talk to all the other parents so bullying always been stoped. My son also been bullied when he was 10. I go to the school, talked to 4 parents and be with him from 8-15 on school in 14 days. He never been bullied after that...

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posted December 17, 2010 10:34 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for snarly     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I was bullied, yes. Because of being different, alternative and not really interested in the 'in' crowd at all. Although very distressing, I feel it has helped mould me into the person I am today, I have bucketloads more courage to be the person I am, the person I need to be.

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posted December 17, 2010 12:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for katatonic     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
when i was in grade school there was a school bully. he'd been left back and was the biggest kid there, and his targets were pretty much anyone who was available. one day he came at me - i don't even remember what he said or if he threatened me or anything, but i pushed him away. i have never had any truck with people trying to push me around! he lost his balance and fell against a railing and cracked a couple of ribs! the principal wanted to suspend me because in THOSE days girls were expected to be soft and receptive and not get into fights with school bullies! it was UNLADYLIKE he said! my mother marched into his office and told him that punishing someone, anyone, for standing up to this boy, was reinforcing bullying in the school and if he suspended me for it there would be no more of our family there, no more help at their fundraisers, no more theatre club (my dad was a prime mover in that) ... i was not suspended and the bully never targetted me again.

a few years later, different kind of bully, we were pubescent and he teased me mercilessly every day. one day he turned round to say something funny/nasty to me (his seat was just in front of mine) and i saw red. picked up the nearest object which happened to be my heaviest book, and threw it at him (range: 2 feet max) and hit him in the face with it! we both got dragged into the office and he was forced to apologize, and so was i. i think he found it more humbling than i did. after all i hadn't really meant to hurt him but i was not thinking when i picked up the first thing my hand connected with...so i was genuinely sorry that i had caused pain. he on the other hand, had been humiliated in front of the class AND made to admit he drove me to it...

my daughter was subjected to "exclusion" by her classmates in her last year at grade school. they were developing a pretty solid gang mentality and she negotiated a truce with the other little gang in our neighbourhood...so her friends decided to ostracize her for betraying the "side". she refused to go to school for weeks. finally at the end of the year the teacher told the class that she was coming back and anyone who was mean or ignored her would get a bad report card, no exceptions. these kids were bullied at home and terrified that they would get a bad report and thus a beating, and so they managed to be civil for two whole days...as soon as school was out they went back to leaving her out of everything they did together. all less powerful members of the group were AFRAID to be friends with her lest they be ostracized as well. not a pretty picture but fortunately she moved on to a school most of them did not.

i think a combination of saturn and pluto can bring out the bully in people. my daughter's class had a high percentage of sat/pluto conjunction and in a group, a mentality that definitely mimicked the nazi schtick. my daughter has this as well and has always credited this experience with teaching her a) not to be friends with bullies and b) not to be one, nor let a "group" take over her life. so it was largely a positive experience which saved her from mindless response to her lower self!

as for me, my bullyproof nature has a lot to do with pluto conj sun. thankfully i have never felt the need to establish power OVER others, but nor have i ever sat still to take a beating. this conjunction is in my 7th house so "open enemies" and "partners" have often been the trigger for me to own my power OVER SELF...

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posted December 17, 2010 02:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for NickiG     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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I would have gotten a Phd in it if there would have been any work besides teaching.


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People in a group will do things a person would NEVER do as a single individual.

yes, absolutely...its really sad that people do that...instead of stepping up and doing the right thing they get sucked into the alpha

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posted December 17, 2010 02:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
What is so funny about the Phd part
LOL

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posted December 17, 2010 02:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for NickiG     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
lol, what you dont wanna be a teacher?

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posted December 17, 2010 02:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for BanxManx     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I bullied kids in middle school then I was bullied my freshman year in high school.

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Ami Anne
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posted December 17, 2010 02:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well,I did not want to be a professor with all the politics,moving from school to school,scarcity of jobs etc
However, I have a passion for social psychology which is the study of the behavior of people in groups.
It was one of the few things that stayed with me and had any practical value
Love you, Nicki!

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posted December 17, 2010 02:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
See
Karma works, Banx

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posted December 17, 2010 02:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mblake81     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The only incident i recall is being struck in the back of my head with a guitar in music class, No details other than i deserved that and more. But it was just that one thing.

Bullies never bothered me.

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posted December 17, 2010 03:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for NickiG     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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However, I have a passion for social psychology which is the study of the behavior of people in groups.
It was one of the few things that stayed with me and had any practical value

yes, in college, psychology was one of my few favorite subjects...although i failed the first time i still learned a lot and use what i learned just about every day (oh and i passed with flying colors the second time, lol), and i still have the book in case i need to reference anything


i love you too ami, lol

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posted December 17, 2010 06:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for NickiG     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
if only these kinds of commercials were out when we were kids

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hcD9DPMgAIA

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posted December 18, 2010 12:37 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lioness     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Some girls "tried" to bully me.. They saw me as this little sweet, naive girl, that they could push around...

Boy did they get a surprise, when all that Leo fire came to the forefront.. I never started any fights, and I pretty much minded my own business.. But at the same time I would never back down, if some one challenges me, thinking they can get over on me, they get quite a shock! When this little 5'2 foot girl is up in there face, giving it all back..

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posted February 18, 2011 09:19 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for charmainec     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I was bullied in the first grade till I threw my juice in my bullies face in front of a teacher.

The teacher took us to the principal's office as I had to answer to throwing her with the juice and when that's when I told that the girl (who was a 4th grader) was bullying me.

It stopped there and wasn't bullied again.

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posted February 18, 2011 09:33 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yep,you HAVE to throw juice in the bullies faces--whatever form that juice will take

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posted February 18, 2011 09:56 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for rajji     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I hate Lizards and cockroaches!Lizards! im scared to death! its the most disgusting creature ive ever seen!it gives me goose bumps!
And somebody threw a slimy rubber lizard at me!eeeeeeeek

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posted February 18, 2011 10:10 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for pisces moon     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I was picked on and teased and had plenty of fights in my day but I don't consider it being bullied because they never scared me. I ignored whatever they said and fought when I had to. (shrugs)

The only incidence of bullying I recall is when a bunch of kids sat outside of my house wanting to beat me up. One of the very few times in my life I was truly intimidated and I was scared to death even as I went outside to play. They ended up being all mouth and just kept saying crap to me. Idiots.

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posted February 18, 2011 10:19 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for PlutoSquared     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted February 18, 2011 10:25 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mblake81     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I was in a fight only once, It was my fault.

I was not bullied.

I know how to get along with people, when I have the will to do it.

*I lie to get along, It is about the only way for me to do it and not have constant fights. I am a peaceful person, but my viewpoint either scares some off, or my personality.

In some cases, one can not have his cake, and eat it too

People in my area are easily scared off by anything that is not accepting by the majority, I hope that makes sense.

I have had to build my views to coincide with the viewpoints around me, even though mine sound different.

It sucks to lie, but it beats alarmed eyes looking at me.

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posted February 18, 2011 10:29 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Bullying is NEVER cute or funny.People even kill themselves from being bullied.
The only fight I will get in now is to help someone who is being bullied.
Other than that, I will not but I will in that case.
If anyone is EVER bullied on LL,please write to me and I will help you.


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posted February 18, 2011 10:56 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for PlutoSquared     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Mblake81:
I was in a fight only once, It was my fault.

I was not bullied.

I know how to get along with people, when I have the will to do it.

*I lie to get along, It is about the only way for me to do it and not have constant fights. I am a peaceful person, but my viewpoint either scares some off, or my personality.

In some cases, one can not have his cake, and eat it too

People in my area are easily scared off by anything that is not accepting by the majority, I hope that makes sense.

I have had to build my views to coincide with the viewpoints around me, even though mine sound different.

It sucks to lie, but it beats alarmed eyes looking at me.


I SEE, said the blind man. Mblake, now your reaction to True Taurus' post about lying makes a lot of sense.

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