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posted January 03, 2011 08:02 AM            

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hahahaha
well that settles THAT then!

It is highly individual like anything in life... I mean, it's 'the norm' I suppose- but then, so is divorce. Everyone changes- riding through life with a partner in crime (and delight) is a pretty remarkable thing...and we've been through ups and downs, but I think at this point, being best friends is the best part about being married. You have to nurture it though. I did it all too young and grew away rather than toward him, resenting, and trying to find reasons to not be good enough- but I found a partner who understands me and wouldn't let me self destruct.. and we are tough in the world together, but soft together in the sense that we strive to say Thank you all the time, and appreciate, and genuinely love.
I suppose we could do that without being married though.
But we are a family- and included in that is the bridge of a name and a piece of paper...unifying us completely.

Not needed, but desired.

I was NOT the marrying type. Never really thought about it.... but that was twelve years ago and pre-him. He ended up being Mr Right after all, I just had to accept that I was good enough to be loved.

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posted January 03, 2011 08:09 AM            

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Could you talk about it some more.It sounds lovely .
How long have you been married?

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posted January 03, 2011 08:36 AM            

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You know what- I just thought of something else Randall...
The question sort of asks one to define how they see life...
I am an optimist.
The cup is half full, and it happens to be filled with people I like to populate my life and spend time with.
That way when it gets too full, I can siphon it off and share the weight.

Can marriages go terribly wrong? Oh yes. Can people go terribly wrong in their lives? Oh yes. Is life or marriage intrinsically wrong or right? Is it depending on the players involved? Perception?

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posted January 03, 2011 08:41 AM            

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Ami- Anne, you want me to talk about myself? weeeeeeeee!

Just kidding.
Married for 11 years- this is our 12th.
Way back when we first got together, I thought of him in soulmate/forever terms.
Then fast forward five years, life experiences/jobs/money/doubt... thought ten years was crazy and we'd never see it.
Now, after ten years? I am more in love with him than ever. But it is real love.
It always was... just really hard to see past the neptune/venus blinders I have.
Anyone can come crashing down from that height. My love loves me completely. We're still crazy attracted to each other, always smooching, supporting, being together.... we sort of make people sick. haha.

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posted January 03, 2011 08:46 AM            

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Randall- Me thinks you have some family issues.

Remixel- That sounds lovely. It's good to hear that. What kind of venus/neptune? Opposition or square?

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posted January 03, 2011 08:46 AM            

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Man Remixel
That is awesome. 12 years is a statement in itself.
Time is the pruner of love.
It hones it down to it's essential beauty or it spits it out.
It may embarrass you to talk more but I would love to do a thread where I and,perhaps others, can ask you questions,if you are amenable to that.
Let me know.
I love to learn from success stories

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posted January 03, 2011 09:00 AM            

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oh Venus Neptune are together- conjunct. Love/pleasure/fantasy/soulmate love/idealism.
http://www.cafeastrology.com/natal/venusneptuneaspects.html

No thank you, I don't really want my own string. But thanks.

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posted January 03, 2011 09:24 AM            

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If pixie wasn't married and I wasn't elsewhere smitten, I would propose to her.

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posted January 03, 2011 09:43 AM            

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Nah, I have no issues really. I just know what I want.

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posted January 03, 2011 09:51 AM            

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And if Moonwitch weren't otherwise smitten and I weren't married, I would propose to Moonwitch. In any of her incarnations.

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posted January 03, 2011 10:07 AM            

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Oh- I should mention- I do not want a thread whereby people ask me questions about a successful relationship because that would imply that I have all the answers.... and if I had all the answers, the Universe would surely send me some lessons to shake me up a bit. i quite like the harmony we've established and I don't take it for granted. Believe me, it is a continual process, and one I have not mastered. I am continually blown away by the capacity of love and learning.
I definitely have issues!!!

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posted January 03, 2011 04:05 PM            

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Nope, never been asked.

Yes,i do,i do,..................believe in LOVE!

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posted January 04, 2011 09:39 PM            

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I never said I didn't believe in love. I'm a hopeless Gooberzholic.

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posted January 05, 2011 01:11 PM            

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Oh, sorry didn't anwser your question right. Shame on me.

I thought it was funny to use the words i do, i do because that's what people say
at a marriage. Yes, i do!

I never asked myself this question. Buth when i see a couple living together and having children, i say hey you're
married. Buth there are not. And when a couple are living together without children, i say you're not married.
So marriage is child. Well that's not what the word marriage means.
So when there's a child or when i have a long term relationship the marriage question will pop up again. And it's
sounds old fashioned i think the man schould propose to a woman.
Well maybe when i got love hydrophobia i will do strange things in Las Vegas. OMG, love hydrophobia.

Don't see myself in a white dress, to old for that. Oh, well there are some many romantic fantasies about the wedding.
Buth is marriage romantic to? Dunno.

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posted January 05, 2011 02:01 PM            

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congrats pixie! sounds awesome. but i don't think it is the years that count, but the way you feel over the span of those years. my parents lasted 18 years, due to their both having loyal characters and taking responsibility for their own stuff... but in the end it just wasn't working. i think there was a lot of love there, but certain personal issues made it impossible for them to be for each other what each other wanted...and there were a bunch of kids caught in the middle which made it even harder to unravel...18 years can hold a lot of grudges as well as love.

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posted January 05, 2011 03:03 PM            

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I caught the "I do" reference.

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posted January 07, 2011 01:54 PM            

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Isn't that the truth, katatonic.
My in-laws have been married for 40 miserable chaotic years. They love to hate each other and tell us all about it.

I don't believe I indicated it was years that matter, did I?
It is highly individualized, are in fact, the words I used.

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posted January 07, 2011 08:29 PM            

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no, not you, pixie, someone was saying that the amount of time you have been together speaks for itself, and i was just saying anything but, really...though i do think there has to be a lot of love to keep trying that long, especially when you are miserable!!

love or stubborness, let's say!

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posted January 08, 2011 03:51 AM            

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Brazilian quote of Brazilian poet Vinicius De Mores:

"Que seja mortal posto que e chama mas que seja infinito enquanto dure."_" May it be mortal, since it's flame. Buth may it be infinite while it lats."

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posted January 08, 2011 11:45 AM            

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No.

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posted January 08, 2011 01:58 PM            

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Isn't that the truth, katatonic.
My in-laws have been married for 40 miserable chaotic years. They love to hate each other and tell us all about it.

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Doesn't that just drive you crazy? My in-laws have been married for about the same time and rarely talk to each other but my MIL loves to get into everyone's business and then gossip to everyone about what she has learned and how bad her life is.

Marriage definitely has ups and downs but if it ever got to that point where Bear and I were married only for the sake of being married or had "hallway sex" {sex consists of saying FU in the hallway while passing each other}, we would go our own way.

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posted January 08, 2011 06:28 PM            

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BA- are you a Sag?

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posted January 08, 2011 06:32 PM            

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Hi Littlecloud-

Yep, I am a Saggie

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posted January 08, 2011 06:33 PM            

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What do you think of Linda's Sag-Leo relationship breakdown in her Love Signs book?

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posted January 08, 2011 06:52 PM            

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I like how Linda goes over both the negative and positives concerning the Leo and Sag relationship. Bear and I often talk about how things would have gone had we met when we were younger and I was more umm.... blunt in my speech (full of p1ss and vinegar one could say) and he was c0cky as all get out. I don't think we would have made it passed the "hello" stage but we met at the perfect time in our lives.

Linda was also right when she said that not all Saggies will love all Leo's and vice versa. Bear has several Leo friends, one of which I am guilty of the "boo hiss" feeling towards him. We just rub each other the wrong way.
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I'm also very careful not to stick thorns in Bear's paw (but I do help extract them when I or other people do LOL.. just ask him about falling into a cactus on halloween) and he lets me be me. He calls me his jester and roars that he is the kind (in a humorous way but I also know he is serious about his kingly right).

One of the things I love about Leo and Sag from Love Signs is that we both DO recognize the hurt the other has been through. I really love to make Bear laugh as he had the tendency to be a very tough guy (meaning Army leadership with his Soldiers) but also has a very senstive and loving side with me.

Ahh... I found the book I still haven't unpacked all of our books from when we moved back to the states from Germany. I have quite a massive astro, tarot and dream collection of books. Now that I pretty much pulled everything out, I think it is time I start to put them back in a bookcase LOL..

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