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Ami Anne
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posted March 03, 2011 11:40 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Good,EES, we agree.
I would not recommend to someone who could go the way *I* am describing cuz *I* think it is the way out.
Some people can't/will not. Everyone has to make their own best choice for themselves.

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mochai
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posted March 03, 2011 12:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mochai     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I like how diplomatic you guys are both being.

I also don't believe in medication unless it's under more extreme circumstances. It's sad to see how ingrained it is in our culture, and how much it is pushed.

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EverEvolvingSpirit
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posted March 03, 2011 12:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for EverEvolvingSpirit     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by mochai:
I like how diplomatic you guys are both being.

I also don't believe in medication unless it's under more extreme circumstances. It's sad to see how ingrained it is in our culture, and how much it is pushed.


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Ami Anne
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posted March 03, 2011 12:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you Mochai
Yes, I am becoming more diplomatic .Don't forget HOW I learned ,though, by screwing up

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MyFavoriteWeapon
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posted March 04, 2011 01:56 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for MyFavoriteWeapon     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You know feeling like total crap and not having any doctors listen to you can REALLY make you feel like you're going crazy, the stress enough will make you want to run into the nearest psychology ward!

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posted March 04, 2011 09:37 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for teasel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well, I've never had a problem with anger or lashing out, until I felt pushed to the edge, and reacted to those who helped or were helping to get me there... I don't fit the examples for BPD, although the elevating importance of things (ten things listed on that one site) concerns all anxiety, I would think.

My isolation was because of social anxiety, and agoraphobia... and I dealt with visitors, loved the kids we looked after. Not all mental illness involves one being a jerk.

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posted March 04, 2011 09:42 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for teasel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
At the moment, I'm wondering if someone is okay, and wondering if I should track down a friend of his and ask him to check on him... or call emergency services in his area. we were no longer speaking, but he posted depressing-sounding comments on his twitter, and somewhere else (before deleting his account). I hate that this drags me back in - I was in such a great mood yesterday - but he has me concerned.

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Ami Anne
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posted March 04, 2011 09:42 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
((((My Favorite Weapon)) (((Teasel)))

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posted March 04, 2011 10:04 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for teasel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
He's alive. I threatened to contact his friends, if he didn't show some signs of life.

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posted March 04, 2011 10:37 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for mochai     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by teasel:
He's alive. I threatened to contact his friends, if he didn't show some signs of life.

Good friend.

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posted March 04, 2011 04:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mblake81     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Mental Illness,

Can people help it?

Speaking in general, I can tell which people have had the experiences and those who have not.

They ask questions like, "Mental Illness, Can people help it?"

Try it for yourself and see.

*No, I am not actually advocating this*

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posted March 04, 2011 05:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for teasel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by mochai:
Good friend.

Thank you. Unfortunately, he's of the jerk variety - as I was reminded yet again, this afternoon - and I'm wondering what I ever saw in him as a friend or otherwise. At least he's alive to be a jerk, though.

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Ami Anne
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posted March 05, 2011 08:33 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I felt like he was OK,too, ((Teasel))
I assume he is your guy from before .
You need major surgery --a "get him out ectomy"
lol

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EverEvolvingSpirit
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posted March 05, 2011 01:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for EverEvolvingSpirit     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by teasel:
He's alive. I threatened to contact his friends, if he didn't show some signs of life.

Man, that must have been hard on you. Sorry you had to deal with that, but you atleast got some relief that he is ok. Good thinking with the threat

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posted March 05, 2011 01:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for EverEvolvingSpirit     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Ami Anne:
I felt like he was OK,too, ((Teasel))
I assume he is your guy from before .
You need major surgery --a "get him out ectomy"
lol


:X Mind in gutter

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Ami Anne
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posted March 05, 2011 02:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
EES

I meant a simple--get him out of her heart

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EverEvolvingSpirit
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posted March 05, 2011 03:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for EverEvolvingSpirit     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Ami Anne:
EES

I meant a simple--get him out of her heart


LMAO, I know.

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teasel
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posted March 05, 2011 10:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for teasel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by EverEvolvingSpirit:
:X Mind in gutter

You made me laugh out loud.

It's him, Ami, and he just sounded so despondent in what I'd seen. His response left me wondering why I'd cared in the first place.

I've been feeling so depressed all day. I felt fine for most of this week, despite anything going on, but today, I woke up and didn't want to wake up.I was just asleep again for a while. I hate this, I really do. I don't know if it's just me, or if there's something going on - I thought I'd rid myself of it for a while.

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Ami Anne
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posted March 06, 2011 08:01 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You are not alone, Teasel,Darling. What in the synastry keeps you hooked,do you think?
Do you have Pluto/Moon, Nessus or Deja ?

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posted March 16, 2011 08:28 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

Mental illness CANNOT be helped but character can.
It is nice when I figure out one of my questions to my own satisfaction

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Ami Anne
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posted March 22, 2011 10:58 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I,finally,have my answer. I think you CAN"T help the weird patterns you develop in order to cope. These are cognitive distortions/ thoughts which are not true or right/false beliefs about oneself and the world.
An example would be "I have to be perfect or no one will like me"

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He who controls his Spirit is greater than he who controls a city
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Ami Anne
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posted March 22, 2011 11:00 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
However,I feel there is another layer of all of us--the Conscience.
This is a moral/values/character level.

You can have a lot of cognitive distortions but still know right from wrong.

So,I think people CAN help it.

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