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Ami Anne
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posted June 29, 2011 09:14 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

When you have your voice ,you don't need to shout.
Shouting is your inner scream to find it.

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Enlightenment doesn't result from sitting around visualizing images of light, but from integrating the darker aspects of the self into the conscious personality
Jung
I am my Beloved's.My Beloved is mine.
Song of Solomen

He who controls his Spirit is greater than he who controls a city
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Ami Anne
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posted June 29, 2011 09:15 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Anyone can share on my thread as I tell my story

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Enlightenment doesn't result from sitting around visualizing images of light, but from integrating the darker aspects of the self into the conscious personality
Jung
I am my Beloved's.My Beloved is mine.
Song of Solomen

He who controls his Spirit is greater than he who controls a city
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Ami Anne
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posted June 29, 2011 09:36 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have found my voice to some extent.The pivotal moment in my claiming it was when I was a losing my cool like water gushing out of a damn and Randall gave me a hand up.

That had never happened to me,before.
I don't think I had ever become unglued where someone did not shame me after---and badly.

He just said"You are finding your voice"
That was the beginning of my actual finding of it.

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Enlightenment doesn't result from sitting around visualizing images of light, but from integrating the darker aspects of the self into the conscious personality
Jung
I am my Beloved's.My Beloved is mine.
Song of Solomen

He who controls his Spirit is greater than he who controls a city
Proverbs

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Ami Anne
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posted June 29, 2011 09:38 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
In my real life, I have someone trying to make me fight.
I won't do it.I don't HAVE to.No one can make you fight without your consent.

It can be hard to resist but you do have the switch inside .
I am writing this thread cuz I appreciate what I have learned on LL and I see how it is coming in to my real life,now.

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Enlightenment doesn't result from sitting around visualizing images of light, but from integrating the darker aspects of the self into the conscious personality
Jung
I am my Beloved's.My Beloved is mine.
Song of Solomen

He who controls his Spirit is greater than he who controls a city
Proverbs

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Ami Anne
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posted June 29, 2011 09:40 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You wonder about those people who have those great quotes like Eleanor Roosevelt "No one can make you feel inferior without your consent"
How did she get it?
I suspect by feeling inferior so many times that one day she just realized that she did not HAVE to.

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Enlightenment doesn't result from sitting around visualizing images of light, but from integrating the darker aspects of the self into the conscious personality
Jung
I am my Beloved's.My Beloved is mine.
Song of Solomen

He who controls his Spirit is greater than he who controls a city
Proverbs

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Ami Anne
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posted June 29, 2011 09:41 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
This is how the fighting revelation cam to me.
Along with it is a lot of other revelations.Most are not defined clearly enough for me to express them.
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Enlightenment doesn't result from sitting around visualizing images of light, but from integrating the darker aspects of the self into the conscious personality
Jung
I am my Beloved's.My Beloved is mine.
Song of Solomen

He who controls his Spirit is greater than he who controls a city
Proverbs

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Ami Anne
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posted June 29, 2011 09:59 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
For anyone new on LL,LL can help you find who you are by the simple freedom of expression we have here.
We study our charts which are our personal blueprints.
From there, we can share who we are with each other in a community which allows that freedom.
Most don't.
You would be surprised HOW rare freedom of expression is.
Most people are programmed to keep you down.
A person who has freedom in himself is a threat.


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Enlightenment doesn't result from sitting around visualizing images of light, but from integrating the darker aspects of the self into the conscious personality
Jung
I am my Beloved's.My Beloved is mine.
Song of Solomen

He who controls his Spirit is greater than he who controls a city
Proverbs

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Ami Anne
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posted June 29, 2011 10:12 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Randall keeps LL safe for as much personal expression as one can have without infringing on others.
When someone infringes on others, they are not allowed to do so.

For me, I am trying to answer the question "What will make me happy?"

I think I came on a large part of it.
I am a Gem Sun,Mercury and Venus.I have to express myself but my true self.

When I can and do, I am happy.

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Enlightenment doesn't result from sitting around visualizing images of light, but from integrating the darker aspects of the self into the conscious personality
Jung
I am my Beloved's.My Beloved is mine.
Song of Solomen

He who controls his Spirit is greater than he who controls a city
Proverbs

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Ami Anne
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posted June 29, 2011 10:53 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Everyone can express easy things,things that are acceptable.
The hard part is expressing your true soul when it goes against the majority.
That is when you need core strength.
I have always had the drive to express my core self and not be driven by the group,any group.
It must be Pluto on the MC. We each were made in our unique way for a purpose we can't really know in this life.
The answer is locked in another dimension.
The Bible says' Now, we see through a glass darkly.Later we will be known as all things are known"


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Enlightenment doesn't result from sitting around visualizing images of light, but from integrating the darker aspects of the self into the conscious personality
Jung
I am my Beloved's.My Beloved is mine.
Song of Solomen

He who controls his Spirit is greater than he who controls a city
Proverbs

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Ami Anne
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posted June 29, 2011 10:55 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The chart is unique in that it can show you your true self.
The asteroids refine it further until you have a road map,uniquely your own.

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Enlightenment doesn't result from sitting around visualizing images of light, but from integrating the darker aspects of the self into the conscious personality
Jung
I am my Beloved's.My Beloved is mine.
Song of Solomen

He who controls his Spirit is greater than he who controls a city
Proverbs

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dysfunctionalmystic
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posted June 29, 2011 03:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for dysfunctionalmystic     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Have you read any Rollo May Ami? Some of his books are quite accessible especially

freedom and destiny
mans search for himself

He talks a lot about the difficulties of being authentic. He was a psychoanalyst but seriously soft and human. I really enjoyed going through his work. He talks about the anxiety that comes with learning to be yourself....and how creativity can be a fight for the right to exist as an individual.

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Ami Anne
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posted June 29, 2011 05:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you((Quinn))
I am gonna get some of his books!

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Enlightenment doesn't result from sitting around visualizing images of light, but from integrating the darker aspects of the self into the conscious personality
Jung
I am my Beloved's.My Beloved is mine.
Song of Solomen

He who controls his Spirit is greater than he who controls a city
Proverbs

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rajji
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posted June 29, 2011 10:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for rajji     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ami...Ultimately you have pursued the path of forgiveness.
I remember the thread in which you stated something like - An eye for an eye is the only way to deal with anger.
But now you see this path of non-violence that you have chosen will make you a more better person.

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posted June 30, 2011 07:35 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by rajji:
Ami...Ultimately you have pursued the path of forgiveness.
I remember the thread in which you stated something like - An eye for an eye is the only way to deal with anger.
But now you see this path of non-violence that you have chosen will make you a more better person.

Well Raj
I do believe in self defense.
I don't think that is against God However,once I defended myself,I hope I would leave.
That is the main difference.
I WOULD fight back but then I would go.

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Enlightenment doesn't result from sitting around visualizing images of light, but from integrating the darker aspects of the self into the conscious personality
Jung
I am my Beloved's.My Beloved is mine.
Song of Solomen

He who controls his Spirit is greater than he who controls a city
Proverbs

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Ami Anne
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posted June 30, 2011 07:40 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
What I am seeing is that many things I THOUGHT made life happy did not.
Happiness to me is self expression. If I feel I have expressed myself in a way that reflects myself and is true to myself,I seem to be at peace.
I am wondering if part of this is Gemini in that Gemini seems to really need to express.
I wonder if the Sun Signs do have a certain life theme that one MUST find if one is to be happy.

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posted July 01, 2011 02:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Pluto conjunct the MC is an overriding force to a chart.
I think it forces you to deal with power.
If you add Retro Saturn conjunct the ASC in Scorpio,you could have a life which started with loss of power.

It's story is probably one of being forced to deal with power (Pluto conj MC)

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Enlightenment doesn't result from sitting around visualizing images of light, but from integrating the darker aspects of the self into the conscious personality
Jung
I am my Beloved's.My Beloved is mine.
Song of Solomon

He who controls his Spirit is greater than he who controls a city
Proverbs

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Ami Anne
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posted July 01, 2011 02:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The charts tell our story, show our potentials.
We can abdicate the use of them but then what do you have

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Enlightenment doesn't result from sitting around visualizing images of light, but from integrating the darker aspects of the self into the conscious personality
Jung
I am my Beloved's.My Beloved is mine.
Song of Solomon

He who controls his Spirit is greater than he who controls a city
Proverbs

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Ami Anne
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posted July 01, 2011 02:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
So, back to fights.If you have your own power,NO ONE forces you to fight.
You can if you choose or you can walk away

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Enlightenment doesn't result from sitting around visualizing images of light, but from integrating the darker aspects of the self into the conscious personality
Jung
I am my Beloved's.My Beloved is mine.
Song of Solomon

He who controls his Spirit is greater than he who controls a city
Proverbs

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Ami Anne
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posted July 01, 2011 06:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
This has finally transferred in to my real life where I can ignore and walk away.


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Enlightenment doesn't result from sitting around visualizing images of light, but from integrating the darker aspects of the self into the conscious personality
Jung
I am my Beloved's.My Beloved is mine.
Song of Solomon

He who controls his Spirit is greater than he who controls a city
Proverbs

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Ami Anne
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posted July 02, 2011 09:41 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I think the saying "The best revenge is a life lived WELL" is the way to go

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Enlightenment doesn't result from sitting around visualizing images of light, but from integrating the darker aspects of the self into the conscious personality
Jung
I am my Beloved's.My Beloved is mine.
Song of Solomon

He who controls his Spirit is greater than he who controls a city
Proverbs

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Ami Anne
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posted July 07, 2011 07:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I can finally walk away from a fight in my real life.
It is so liberating. These things are SO big but so elusive to us--simple things that make the difference between a life of Heaven or a life of Hell.

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Enlightenment doesn't result from sitting around visualizing images of light, but from integrating the darker aspects of the self into the conscious personality
Jung
I am my Beloved's.My Beloved is mine.
Song of Solomon

He who controls his Spirit is greater than he who controls a city
Proverbs

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Ami Anne
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I can finally walk away from a fight in my real life.
It is so liberating. These things are SO big but so elusive to us--simple things that make the difference between a life of Heaven or a life of Hell.

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Enlightenment doesn't result from sitting around visualizing images of light, but from integrating the darker aspects of the self into the conscious personality
Jung
I am my Beloved's.My Beloved is mine.
Song of Solomon

He who controls his Spirit is greater than he who controls a city
Proverbs

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posted July 08, 2011 10:43 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for hippichick     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ami thank you for posting this.

I have thoroughly enjoyed reading~

Seems to be the theme in my life now, keepping thy mouth shut, at work as well as in my relationship.

It is a true test, to be sure, cause I was a wall flower (Pisces ) for many, many years, door mat, etc. but when my 19 year old was born with a severe heart defect, I had to learn to open my mouth, now it wont stay shut at times!

But with being raised by a critical Virgo and now head over heels in love with one, I have had to learn to shut the trap again, and be very discriminate~

Again thanks for the post, did me alot of good starting my day in this way!

t~~~

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posted July 08, 2011 10:47 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by hippichick:
Ami thank you for posting this.

I have thoroughly enjoyed reading~

Seems to be the theme in my life now, keepping thy mouth shut, at work as well as in my relationship.

It is a true test, to be sure, cause I was a wall flower (Pisces ) for many, many years, door mat, etc. but when my 19 year old was born with a severe heart defect, I had to learn to open my mouth, now it wont stay shut at times!

But with being raised by a critical Virgo and now head over heels in love with one, I have had to learn to shut the trap again, and be very discriminate~

Again thanks for the post, did me alot of good starting my day in this way!

t~~~


Thanks Hippichick
I needed that validation that my thoughts matter to someone other than myself

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Enlightenment doesn't result from sitting around visualizing images of light, but from integrating the darker aspects of the self into the conscious personality
Jung
I am my Beloved's.My Beloved is mine.
Song of Solomon

He who controls his Spirit is greater than he who controls a city
Proverbs

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posted July 08, 2011 12:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hippichick     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well ofcourse your thoughts matter~we are all in this to-gether~

t~~

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