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Topic: Mentally Disabled Sex Partners
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AstrologicalMan Knowflake Posts: 435 From: Brickenton Registered: Jun 2011
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posted July 13, 2011 11:43 PM
This is the adult room, so I figured I would post some taboo subjects to better understand things. Can a mentally retarded person consent to sexual acts or should they not have relationships at all?IP: Logged |
pixelpixie Knowflake Posts: 353 From: ON Canada Registered: Apr 2009
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posted July 14, 2011 12:26 AM
It depends on the person/degree of mental acuity....and whether is it consensual and entered into willingly.Some people with mental disabilities aren't 'wired' for sexual behaviour. They are childlike- and as such, may have a rational interest in child play, but not in an adult sense. IP: Logged |
AstrologicalMan Knowflake Posts: 435 From: Brickenton Registered: Jun 2011
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posted July 14, 2011 12:35 AM
quote: Originally posted by pixelpixie: It depends on the person/degree of mental acuity....and whether is it consensual and entered into willingly.Some people with mental disabilities aren't 'wired' for sexual behaviour. They are childlike- and as such, may have a rational interest in child play, but not in an adult sense.
so even in adulthood they don't seem to gravitate towards sex? IP: Logged |
lalalinda Moderator Posts: 1589 From: nevada Registered: Apr 2009
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posted July 14, 2011 01:22 AM
Mentally challenged people still have urges even though they may not understand them.I think what you do is develop relationships with other people who have similar disabilities. I hope this is a real question AM and I truly hope this thread was not meant to laugh at or make fun of the mentally challenged. Like my (superstitious) Grandmother used to say "if you make fun of them, you'll have one" and then it won't be so funny. Here's giving you the benefit of doubt. IP: Logged |
WinkAway Moderator Posts: 1569 From: here, there & everywhere Registered: Apr 2009
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posted July 14, 2011 02:31 AM
I think it depends on the level of mental disability. I have a couple of guy friends both are on SSI for mental disabilities. Both are able to maintain relationships and sexual one's at that. They are both just a little slow in their thinking. But it really depends on the person. IP: Logged |
starfox Moderator Posts: 511 From: London England Registered: Aug 2010
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posted July 14, 2011 06:37 AM
All the mentally disabled people I've known have been randy sods.. IP: Logged |
Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 17180 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010
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posted July 14, 2011 08:39 AM
quote: Originally posted by lalalinda: Mentally challenged people still have urges even though they may not understand them.I think what you do is develop relationships with other people who have similar disabilities. I hope this is a real question AM and I truly hope this thread was not meant to laugh at or make fun of the mentally challenged. Like my (superstitious) Grandmother used to say "if you make fun of them, you'll have one" and then it won't be so funny. Here's giving you the benefit of doubt.
THANK YOU LALA My feelings exactly.It sickens me to laugh at infirm people. But for the grace of God go I. ------------------ Enlightenment doesn't result from sitting around visualizing images of light, but from integrating the darker aspects of the self into the conscious personality Jung God has not given us a spirit of fear but of power,love and a sound mind. He who controls his Spirit is greater than he who controls a city Proverbs IP: Logged |
lalalinda Moderator Posts: 1589 From: nevada Registered: Apr 2009
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posted July 14, 2011 04:07 PM
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0123209/ This movie addresses the topic in this thread I love this Movie Hope you do too
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Benedict Moon* Knowflake Posts: 2722 From: Avendesora Registered: May 2009
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posted July 14, 2011 06:49 PM
If you are truly being serious and not a complete a--hole, then it would depend on the degree of mental disability because their ability to consent to sexual relationship depends on that. IP: Logged |
Betty Boop Knowflake Posts: 1491 From: Betty Boop Land Registered: Sep 2010
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posted July 14, 2011 08:21 PM
He isn't being an a-hole about disabled people. He is not that sort of person. IP: Logged |
lalitree Knowflake Posts: 45 From: Registered: Apr 2011
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posted July 15, 2011 12:25 AM
yes, i don't really see how he is being a-hole ish. Just posing a question out of curiosity. when he starts poking fun---then we should poke him back rightIP: Logged |
AstrologicalMan Knowflake Posts: 435 From: Brickenton Registered: Jun 2011
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posted July 15, 2011 12:39 AM
thank you Betty and LaTreeI was just wondering. I have to find out about everything. IP: Logged |
sand Knowflake Posts: 831 From: Registered: May 2011
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posted July 15, 2011 02:37 AM
hmm well i do have a retarded uncle. crazy runs in the fam unfortunately lulz. he masturbates a lot or used to. talks to his imaginary girlfriend on the telephone, but he holds the pusher so he doesn't hear the dial tone. he lived with my other uncle once who kind of reminds me of charlie sheen and was close to getting laid by a hooker but nothing ever came of it. he'd just masturbate infront of her. i think he's in his forties now but he still does 2nd grade workbooks. i posted his chart once on another forum and i think it showed signs from comments of other posters but i don't have his deets anymore.the other sister huh. i should catch that. looks like it has a good cast. i thought flowers for algernon was cool but he's not dumb the whole movie. does bipolar count? i know a cute girl with this. also a cutter and kinda suicidal buh she looked like an angel/ used to ehehe.. IP: Logged |
AstrologicalMan Knowflake Posts: 435 From: Brickenton Registered: Jun 2011
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posted July 15, 2011 06:03 AM
quote: Originally posted by sand: hmm well i do have a retarded uncle. crazy runs in the fam unfortunately lulz. he masturbates a lot or used to. talks to his imaginary girlfriend on the telephone, but he holds the pusher so he doesn't hear the dial tone. he lived with my other uncle once who kind of reminds me of charlie sheen and was close to getting laid by a hooker but nothing ever came of it. he'd just masturbate infront of her. i think he's in his forties now but he still does 2nd grade workbooks. i posted his chart once on another forum and i think it showed signs from comments of other posters but i don't have his deets anymore.the other sister huh. i should catch that. looks like it has a good cast. i thought flowers for algernon was cool but he's not dumb the whole movie. does bipolar count? i know a cute girl with this. also a cutter and kinda suicidal buh she looked like an angel/ used to ehehe..
Wow sand, Nice. IP: Logged |
sand Knowflake Posts: 831 From: Registered: May 2011
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posted July 15, 2011 07:07 AM
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Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 17180 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010
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posted July 15, 2011 07:26 AM
quote: Originally posted by Betty Boop: He isn't being an a-hole about disabled people. He is not that sort of person.
------------------ Enlightenment doesn't result from sitting around visualizing images of light, but from integrating the darker aspects of the self into the conscious personality Jung God has not given us a spirit of fear but of power,love and a sound mind. He who controls his Spirit is greater than he who controls a city Proverbs IP: Logged |
Betty Boop Knowflake Posts: 1491 From: Betty Boop Land Registered: Sep 2010
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posted July 15, 2011 11:01 PM
sand - What is the medical term for what your uncle has? Do you know? I'm also curious about his chart. My friend's sister is schizofrenic. She also had an imaginary boyfriend and talked to him on the phone. It was a strange experience to speak to her because she was so sure this person was real and that he was her soulmate. Sometimes it makes me wonder as to what is going on - on a spiritual level.. and whether certain people are actually tapping on to something that 'exists' .. rather than making it up. IP: Logged |
MoonWitch Moderator Posts: 812 From: The Beach Registered: Apr 2009
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posted July 16, 2011 05:24 PM
My adult sister is autistic. No, she absolutely can't consent to sexual acts of any kind with someone else. She does NOT have the mental capacity to understand the act or the potential consequences.Performing a sexual act on my sister would be akin to performing a sexual act with someone that was nearly passed out after having too many beers, being slipped roofies or someone in a partial coma. NOT ethical and legally considered rape. edit to add: I agree that someone with only a *mild* mental disability is a different story but it would entirely depend on the situation. And the documentary I watched of the two Down Syndrome couple that recently married shows a scenario where it makes sense. IP: Logged |
Saraintheski Knowflake Posts: 409 From: Registered: May 2011
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posted July 16, 2011 07:10 PM
I believe it matters how severe there disibility is and there social skills are if they could be easily taken advantage of and say a "normal" person forced them that would be teribly wrong and even if they are severely handicapped who says they can't have a loving relationship ....Possibly with someone who suffers from the same disibility or someone that has a real bond with them .. My mother knew a girl who was severely retarded in a wheel chair the girl became pregnant !!!! My mom said she would repeat i'm a dog i'm a dog because that's what her own mother or person who was abusing her would say ! That almost made me cry I think social services stepped in i'm not sure ...IP: Logged |
Saraintheski Knowflake Posts: 409 From: Registered: May 2011
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posted July 16, 2011 07:10 PM
I believe it matters how severe there disibility is and there social skills are if they could be easily taken advantage of and say a "normal" person forced them that would be teribly wrong and even if they are severely handicapped who says they can't have a loving relationship ....Possibly with someone who suffers from the same disibility or someone that has a real bond with them .. My mother knew a girl who was severely retarded in a wheel chair the girl became pregnant !!!! My mom said she would repeat i'm a dog i'm a dog because that's what her own mother or person who was abusing her would say ! That almost made me cry I think social services stepped in i'm not sure ...IP: Logged |
sand Knowflake Posts: 831 From: Registered: May 2011
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posted July 17, 2011 12:04 AM
quote: Originally posted by Betty Boop: sand - What is the medical term for what your uncle has? Do you know? I'm also curious about his chart. My friend's sister is schizofrenic. She also had an imaginary boyfriend and talked to him on the phone. It was a strange experience to speak to her because she was so sure this person was real and that he was her soulmate. Sometimes it makes me wonder as to what is going on - on a spiritual level.. and whether certain people are actually tapping on to something that 'exists' .. rather than making it up.
yup same thing. schizophrenia. i'll try to look for his birth certificate. i know i have it on file just have been packing/ moving stuff. IP: Logged |
AstrologicalMan Knowflake Posts: 435 From: Brickenton Registered: Jun 2011
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posted July 19, 2011 07:00 AM
quote: Originally posted by Betty Boop: He isn't being an a-hole about disabled people. He is not that sort of person.
Thank you for your understanding. I appreciate you. IP: Logged |
AstrologicalMan Knowflake Posts: 435 From: Brickenton Registered: Jun 2011
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posted July 19, 2011 07:03 AM
quote: Originally posted by MoonWitch: My adult sister is autistic. No, she absolutely can't consent to sexual acts of any kind with someone else. She does NOT have the mental capacity to understand the act or the potential consequences.Performing a sexual act on my sister would be akin to performing a sexual act with someone that was nearly passed out after having too many beers, being slipped roofies or someone in a partial coma. NOT ethical and legally considered rape. edit to add: I agree that someone with only a *mild* mental disability is a different story but it would entirely depend on the situation. And the documentary I watched of the two Down Syndrome couple that recently married shows a scenario where it makes sense.
When you say she is autistic, what do you mean? People with autism have feelings and desires and can make choices. I don't understand. IP: Logged |
AstrologicalMan Knowflake Posts: 435 From: Brickenton Registered: Jun 2011
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posted July 19, 2011 07:07 AM
quote: Originally posted by Saraintheski: I believe it matters how severe there disibility is and there social skills are if they could be easily taken advantage of and say a "normal" person forced them that would be teribly wrong and even if they are severely handicapped who says they can't have a loving relationship ....Possibly with someone who suffers from the same disibility or someone that has a real bond with them .. My mother knew a girl who was severely retarded in a wheel chair the girl became pregnant !!!! My mom said she would repeat i'm a dog i'm a dog because that's what her own mother or person who was abusing her would say ! That almost made me cry I think social services stepped in i'm not sure ...
When I write this, I am doing so in the eyes of some men, having studied them, I know. When you think about it, guys sometimes prey on an unintelligent or unaware girl, in hopes of getting some sexual benefit from her. right? Yet, sometimes women play submissive roles so that they can attract that type of man so the woman receives pleasure as well. So apply that to a person with mental deficiency. They too have sexual desires, so what are they supposed to do? IP: Logged |
MoonWitch Moderator Posts: 812 From: The Beach Registered: Apr 2009
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posted July 20, 2011 09:17 PM
quote: Originally posted by AstrologicalMan: When you say she is autistic, what do you mean? People with autism have feelings and desires and can make choices. I don't understand.
I mean she can't speak and only knows minimal and extremely basic sign language, she taps her fingers on anything and everything....all day.... all day.... all day... all day, she will never support herself financially or any other way, she didn't notice when her father died a couple years ago, she isn't social AT ALL, doesn't enjoy being around other people, can't go to restaurants or other public venues without being completely overwhelmed and having a meltdown, has to be put in a straightjacket to go to the dentist or have a haircut, and prefers to lock herself in her room most of the day unless my mother makes her a grilled cheese sandwich - which is ALL she will eat except for M&M's and Dr. Pepper.
So, I suppose she can make choices about M&M's but in no way, shape or form is she capable of making choices about sexual partners.
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