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Topic: Astrology, Sexuality and Stimulation
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NativelyJoan
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From: New England
Registered: Sep 2011
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posted October 15, 2011 11:02 PM
  
I was reading an article on Sasstrology titled, The Astrology of Kink: Naked Aries ( http://sasstrology.com/2008/07/astrology-of-kink-naked-aries.html ) and it made me ponder. Mars is one of my dominant planetary placements. I have Moon and Mars conjunct in Aries. I've noticed that when it comes to sexuality I'm radically liberal and pretty open-minded however I'm not a fan of foreplay. I actually can't stand it. I won't get explicit about the reasons surrounding that because my Libra Sun and Mercury won't allow me to be crude or vulgar but it's the biggest turn off for me. Kissing is of course fine, but that's the most I will accept in preparation. I'm not sensual, by an means, Aries just wants to get the engine started which is completely true in regards to myself. I shut down foreplay with partners quickly. There's something to be said about getting to the point and being simply organic with intimacy, with nothing orchestrated. Foreplay just seems unnecessary to me, gluttonous almost. I don't enjoy wasting time by prolonging the build up I mean, why not just press on the accelerator. That might sound nuts, and I've always wandered what makes people interested in foreplay. What are your opinions? Do you enjoy foreplay? Do you think it adds or takes away from the overall intimate experience? Adding your Mars Natal positions would definitely help to give a brief sketch of your preferences. IP: Logged |
starfox
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From: London England
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posted October 16, 2011 06:18 AM
I often enjoy the foreplay more than the actual sex act, getting someone turned on & undressing them.. etc..  Mars in Scorpio
Mars in VIII
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LEXX
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From: Still out looking for Schrodinger's cat.......& LEXIGRAMMING.♥.. is my Passion!
Registered: Apr 2009
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posted October 16, 2011 12:19 PM
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Originally posted by starfox:
I often enjoy the foreplay more than the actual sex act, getting someone turned on & undressing them.. etc.. Mars in Scorpio
Mars in VIII
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NativelyJoan
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From: New England
Registered: Sep 2011
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posted October 16, 2011 01:31 PM
quote:
Originally posted by starfox:
I often enjoy the foreplay more than the actual sex act, getting someone turned on & undressing them.. etc.. Mars in Scorpio
Mars in VIII
Why do you think that is Starfox, you too Lexx? My Mercury in the 8th is inquiring to know. Your saying you'd rather have just the frosting without the actual cake? Sensuality over sexuality? I'm inquiring because I hate frosting. The cake itself is so delicious I don't like to dilute the enjoyment with anything else. For me sexuality is an end in itself. It's not about the pleasure but the experience and single joy of the act itself. IP: Logged |
GypseeWind
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From: Love Street, she lingers long on Love Street..
Registered: May 2009
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posted October 16, 2011 01:43 PM
It depends on the other person,
but for the most part I am the same way.
Mars is my chart ruler.
I have venus in sag, in the 8th house, which doesn't really dawdle. IP: Logged |
NativelyJoan
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From: New England
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posted October 16, 2011 02:57 PM
I don't dawdle either GypseeWind  , why waste time tuning the engine when you can just drive. I've studied sexuality for some time and I find it fascinating the level of value placed on sensuality over sexuality. There are tons of articles, psychological and spiritual books that chastise sexuality and uplift sensuality. Sensuality is seen as commonly practiced and therefore more acceptable avenue towards intimacy. Sexuality is viewed as selfish gratification and sensuality is viewed as mutually satisfying. I guess it all really is a matter of enjoyment. IP: Logged |
starfox
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From: London England
Registered: Aug 2010
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posted October 16, 2011 04:44 PM
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Originally posted by NativelyJoan:
Why do you think that is Starfox, you too Lexx? My Mercury in the 8th is inquiring to know. Your saying you'd rather have just the frosting without the actual cake? Sensuality over sexuality? I'm inquiring because I hate frosting. The cake itself is so delicious I don't like to dilute the enjoyment with anything else. For me sexuality is an end in itself. It's not about the pleasure but the experience and single joy of the act itself.
To me its like just pushing things without the resolution of sex becoming too available.
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NickiG
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From: Pluto, next to Ami Ann
Registered: Jul 2010
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posted October 16, 2011 08:04 PM
i'm like you Joan, i dont like foreplay......i like up right up to the point where i'm in the mood, any thing after that is just plain redundant and can slowly get me out of the mood....and it doesnt take a whole lot of what other people consider foreplay to get me into the mood (what i mean by that is what i like to get me into the mood before sex i dont really call foreplay)mars in scorpio conjunct pluto in 6th ------------------
I once saw a sign that said "sin is death" but if "all deaths are suicide (linda goodman)" and suicide is sin, then shouldnt "death is sin" be more appropriate? when organic is used to describe food then you know we have come to a dark age in history IP: Logged |
PixieJane
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From: CA
Registered: Oct 2010
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posted October 16, 2011 09:15 PM
Maybe people like different things because of the position of their planets and asteroids? Other than that, explaining personal preferences (as opposed to merely describing them) seems too hard to be worth the effort. It's not like people make a conscious decision about it. IP: Logged |
NativelyJoan
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posted October 16, 2011 09:31 PM
I think I understand Starfox, thank you for your input. The frosting makes the cake even more worth eating and you get to savor the frosting in preparation. Sorry about this analogy. NickiG, right on. It really does become repetitive and you'd be surprised how much it takes me right out of the moment. The inferno goes cold and I'm ready to do something else. It really doesn't take much for me to get hot and bothered, seriously. The fire burns without any outside assistance. IP: Logged |
NativelyJoan
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From: New England
Registered: Sep 2011
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posted October 16, 2011 09:47 PM
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PixieJane: Maybe people like different things because of the position of their planets and asteroids?
True. It's why I proposed sharing preference and Natal Mars positions. I'm curious because we're all in fact very different and that makes it all the more intriguing to share varying points of perspective. For example what if your preferences varied according to your partner's, astrology could provide a possible avenue to isolate differences. IP: Logged |
LEXX
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From: Still out looking for Schrodinger's cat.......& LEXIGRAMMING.♥.. is my Passion!
Registered: Apr 2009
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posted October 17, 2011 01:03 AM
I am in a shite state of mind at the moment having just had some rotten verbal interchange.
So will not elaborate at the moment on this interesting topic but want to make a few remarks.
I love doing foreplay on the other person, but personally receiving foreplay makes me rabid and will p!ss me off if done too long and then it becomes a serious turn off for me.
And if feeling very sexually hungry then no way foreplay!
I want it down hard and rough hurt me bang up against the wall wild biting thrashing pounding crazy raw no holds barred!
RAWR! RAWR! RAWR!
PS.
Though at the moment I am so fraking hurt and angry that the idea of sex with a real person ever again just upsets me and adult toys just sound a whole lot easier and without the emotional games.IP: Logged |
Stawr
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From: N. America
Registered: Nov 2010
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posted October 24, 2011 07:27 PM
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Originally posted by LEXX:
Though at the moment I am so fraking hurt and angry that the idea of sex with a real person ever again just upsets me and adult toys just sound a whole lot easier and without the emotional games.
That's what I do! haha I'm sick of guys disappointing me. But I have needs dammit. Anyway I like foreplay on me sometimes...it can spice it up. I do get sick of always doing the same action the same moves. (but then I've only been with one person and we lived together for a while.)
When I got home from work it was on. And sometimes I'm not always wet/horny enough to get right to the chase. And foreplay can help me build up to that and get me to want 'it'. But then sometimes....foreplay and kissing can do the opposite. Like if they are a bad kisser or bad at foreplay...I'm going to be thinking 'no thanks I'm good.' I apparently don't like it too rough. My guy friend was trying to turn me on and some of the stuff I was doing I was just like "owwgh" and then he was like "sorry I'm use to girls who like it extremely rough." And then this one guy at the club made out with me...(I'm not one to really make out with guys I meet at clubs but I barely ate and I was so drunk...I was rushed and didn't have time to eat) This guy was attractive but he was sucking on my lips...that the next day I noticed I had hickeys on my lips...omg who does that! His friend and him gave me a ride home since my sister and her friend where way too drunk to drive. He sucked on my n!ps way to hard...omg it was so painful. I'm serious...I woke up the next day with the worst hangover ever...and my n!ps still hurt so bad...I actually checked and made sure that they where still there in one piece. And I am not joking at all when I say that they hurt really bad for 3 days.
I jokingly (but also seriously) said "I'm not calling him for a good time!" Oh yeah I'm willing to do foreplay on guys...from my experience...guys don't mind foreplay...but usually I do foreplay when I'm into a guy...but not that into him....or cause I'm just not ready to go all the way with him. If I'm into the guy I'm eager to please. (no back door stuff though...and luckily none have asked)
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Rising: Gemini
Sun: Aries 11
Moon: Scorpio 6
Mercury: Taurus 12
Mars: Aquarius 10
Venus: Pisces 10
N.Node: Aquarius 9
Saturn: Capricorn 9
Juno: Scorpio 6
True Lilith: Scorpio 6
Jupiter: Cancer 2
Pluto: Scorpio 6 IP: Logged |
Lioness
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posted October 24, 2011 11:15 PM
My Mars is in Leo... I settle for nothing less than all nighter's.. Doing it right away and having it over in 15 mins, is boring to me.. Whats the point.. I want to be caressed, and given LOTS of attention
Of course I give the attention back... Exploring each other just makes it so much more passionate..
Jumping into it is like saying let me get mine, then leave me alone.. IDK... not for me.. IP: Logged |
Lonake
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posted October 25, 2011 01:29 AM
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Stawr
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From: N. America
Registered: Nov 2010
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posted October 27, 2011 01:28 PM
lol I like the cake metafores(sg??) going on here.I wanna try. Yes I like cake,...and frosting...but it just can't be any frosting now. I like the frosting with real effort. (butter cream, that made from scratch!) (and not that in the can frosting stuff) IP: Logged |
NativelyJoan
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From: New England
Registered: Sep 2011
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posted October 27, 2011 09:42 PM
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Originally posted by Stawr:
lol I like the cake metafores(sg??) going on here.I wanna try. Yes I like cake,...and frosting...but it just can't be any frosting now. I like the frosting with real effort. (butter cream, that made from scratch!) (and not that in the can frosting stuff)
LMAO  . I'll continue with the analogy, frosting's too much for me, too sweet, I like things that have a bite to them, things that are potent that's why I go straight to the cake. My passion can't handle indulging, it wants to devour the cake whole, without the frosting because it's a distraction. But I pace myself of course don't want to get sick from eating to quickly. The point is to enjoy it. You can never have too much cake, with or without the frosting. And I want to intensely devour cake, after cake after cake..... (Mars in Aries in the 1st Quintile Pluto in the 8th) I love these replies it's so fascinating to hear how astrology plays into our intimate affairs. IP: Logged |
sand
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From: the ill na na
Registered: May 2011
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posted October 30, 2011 04:36 AM
but.. bewbs... bjs..there is somethin sessy about just eating cake over and over though.. mars in scorpio 1st house. tho i suspect it's the venus in taurus that is pro foreplay. IP: Logged |
NativelyJoan
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From: New England
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posted October 30, 2011 09:12 PM
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Originally posted by sand:
but.. bewbs... bjs..there is somethin sessy about just eating cake over and over though.. mars in scorpio 1st house. tho i suspect it's the venus in taurus that is pro foreplay.
LMAO Sand. I guess it's all a matter of preference. MIS in the 1st talk about heat! But yeah Venus in Taurus probably anchors the ship until it's safely docked then watch out MIS! I have Venus in Leo, the Lioness doesn't like to anchor anything, she's a Queen of course. She tends to get right to business (Mars in Aries), but trust that she takes her time while there (Venus in Leo), you can't rush the Queen. IP: Logged |
downtomars
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Registered: Apr 2009
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posted November 09, 2011 09:03 PM
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Originally posted by NativelyJoan:
What are your opinions? Do you enjoy foreplay? Do you think it adds or takes away from the overall intimate experience? Adding your Mars Natal positions would definitely help to give a brief sketch of your preferences. [/B]
I looooove foreplay! It is so nice to just feel lips on lips, skin on skin, hands everywhere. The best date I ever had ended with a long make-out session (2nd base, lol), so long I missed my train! It was really all we needed (he has Mars in Cancer in the 3rd house). If we would have had sex it would have ruined our entire relationship – because it was only our first date (that is a different topic though, sorry)! We would still indulge in longer foreplay sessions even after we began having sex regularly though. He is a Taurus and very sensual…I miss him  I don’t know, there is also something sweet about foreplay. I think I like feeling wanted and savored on top of the intimacy and closeness I feel to my partner. I read a book a while ago that talked about how Leo women like to be “stroked”, pet like kitten, and I think this part of it also. It would be masochistic for me to be with someone who is not as affectionate as I am. My Mars is in Gemini in the 5th house… Actually, my cousin does not like foreplay either, she says she does not even like to kiss (blasphemy!!!)… She is an Aries with a Leo rising, Mars in Aries…it must be a Mars-y Mars thing – just get to it!
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Hera
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posted November 09, 2011 10:09 PM
LOOOL. Aries Sun, Sag Moon. Aries Mars in the 3rd opp Pluto (aaand Saturn...). Taurus Venus unaspected in the 3rd. I like *some* foreplay. It's like a teasing game, sweet torture of anticipation. I like it to begin slowly, then increase the sexual tension until I can't take no more. And after that point (which kinda comes pretty soon if I'm in the mood and very attracted to the guy), unless we get to business, I miss the train and I'm turned off. Sexy talk is a must! (both Mars and Venus in the 3rd, both 5th and 8th houses are Mercury-ruled) IP: Logged |
Voix_de_la_Mer
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posted November 11, 2011 05:05 PM
The only reason I have ever refused or cut foreplay short is through fear of intimacy.
I find it much more intimate than intercourse, as often the person's attention will be completely concentrated on you, your pleasure, your face ...
I don't have any trouble giving foreplay though, it's always the receiving that I have to work at accepting.With any new partner I must overcome this fear every time, but once I do, it feels amazing - all of it. I've Mars in Libra in the 12th, and Venus in Capricorn in the 3rd, for what it's worth. IP: Logged |
1-scorp
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posted November 12, 2011 12:04 PM
I've had it to where it's taken me out of the mood.  Mars Scorpio/2nd house
Mercury conjunct mars
Venus conjunct mars
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NativelyJoan
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From: New England
Registered: Sep 2011
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posted November 12, 2011 02:42 PM
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downtomars: Actually, my cousin does not like foreplay either, she says she does not even like to kiss (blasphemy!!!)…She is an Aries with a Leo rising, Mars in Aries…it must be a Mars-y Mars thing – just get to it!
It could definitely be a heavy Martian thing. I'm dominant Mars and it's crazy how much it has an effect on my sexual life. I've got an abundance of stamina which could be more related to (Pluto in the 8th), but yeah don't like to waste any time, and get out of the heat of the moment. I guess that's why they call Mars in Aries, sexual gymnast's and extremists. There's nothing subtle about Martians when it comes to intimacy. IP: Logged |
Heartless
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Registered: May 2011
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posted November 13, 2011 08:27 AM
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Originally posted by starfox:
I often enjoy the foreplay more than the actual sex act, getting someone turned on & undressing them.. etc.. Mars in Scorpio
Mars in VIII
yes!
the build up is everything while the sex word is never uttered. subtle sensuality and (intense) intellectual stimulation. Mars in Taurus/H8
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