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NativelyJoan
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From: New England
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posted November 09, 2011 08:38 PM
  
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Hera:I don't want to make this thread about me or my ex, just curious about the astrology behind the subject, so please stick to that. I mentioned the background story because it helps me look at the relationship with a bit more detached eyes, like demythisizing it. Up until now I was shy/ashamed to mention this aspect, but somehow now I feel more comfortable doing so. And I am a curious creature by nature.  Opinions, anyone?
I'm a very sexual person. Moon and Mars in Aries, Venus in Leo with a prominent 8th house which includes an Eighth House Pluto. When it comes to sexual encounters, I kind of just let the passion consume me and take control of my body. Nothing's ever planned or thought out, it all just happens organically. In a sense I become a completely different person, but I like to keep that side of me hidden. I've never really been a fan of anal sex. I'm up for anything, anywhere really, I mean Mars in Aries in the 1st. However I draw the line when it comes to this sexual style. It's not that I consider it taboo, rather that I get far more enjoyment from other sexual practices and styles. But I support anyone who engages in any form of sexual expression, to each it's own. IP: Logged |
OpiumBreast
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From: california, America
Registered: Nov 2011
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posted November 09, 2011 08:41 PM
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Originally posted by downtomars:
Okay, I kind of feel freer in this thread for some reason…Personally - I will try anything once and I have no hang-ups about sex, especially not talking about it (Mars in Gemini in the 5th trine Pluto in the 8th) however, these "trials" have to be with someone I have dated for a while and trust (Moon conjunct Pluto). The Scorpio-Sag guy, was my ex. I only tried it with him twice near the end of our relationship, in the break-up sex/make-up sex stage. Then he started getting crazy about it, only seemed interested in it and got too graphic when talking to me. The Leo woman does not like Even though we were in the “forget it, let’s just sleep together” stage of the relationship I wasn’t into being talked to that way (reminiscent of Opium’s initial post, lol) so it was the beginning of the end… I would try it with someone else because it wasn’t so bad...
so, what does the blackside of the moon look like? Its Pink Floyd. IP: Logged |
Hera
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posted November 09, 2011 08:45 PM
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Originally posted by OpiumBreast:
so, what does your backside look like madame?
Continue to talk like this and you will get yourself banned again. If you trash my thread, I will report you. Make no mistake about it, my Mars opposes yours closely. If you can't talk about this with maturity and respect for other forum members, you're not welcomed here and I will ask you to leave. Or will ask Mods to escort you out. IP: Logged |
LEXX
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From: Still out looking for Schrodinger's cat.......& LEXIGRAMMING.♥.. is my Passion!
Registered: Apr 2009
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posted November 09, 2011 08:53 PM
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Originally posted by Hera:
Continue to talk like this and you will get yourself banned again. If you trash my thread, I will report you. Make no mistake about it, my Mars opposes yours closely. If you can't talk about this with maturity and respect for other forum members, you're not welcomed here and I will ask you to leave. Or will ask Mods to escort you out.
Randall has been notified.
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Hera
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posted November 09, 2011 08:54 PM
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Originally posted by Hera:
Continue to talk like this and you will get yourself banned again. If you trash my thread, I will report you. Make no mistake about it, my Mars opposes yours closely. If you can't talk about this with maturity and respect for other forum members, you're not welcomed here and I will ask you to leave. Or will ask Mods to escort you out.
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Originally posted by LEXX:
Randall has been notified.
Thank you, LEXX!  ------------------
Whatever you give to a woman, she will make it GREATER. Give her SPERM, she will give you a BABY. Give her a HOUSE, she will give you a HOME. Give her GROCERIES, she will give you a MEAL. Give her LOVE, and she will give you her HEART! She multiplies and enlarges what she is given. So, if you give her CR@P, be prepared to receive a ton of SH!T! IP: Logged |
LEXX
Knowflake Posts: 9743
From: Still out looking for Schrodinger's cat.......& LEXIGRAMMING.♥.. is my Passion!
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posted November 09, 2011 08:59 PM
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Originally posted by Hera:
Thank you, LEXX!
You're welcome Hera. IP: Logged |
OpiumBreast
Knowflake Posts: 43
From: california, America
Registered: Nov 2011
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posted November 09, 2011 09:16 PM
Its tounge and cheek humor. You people are so serious. Or is it, you don't want me looking into your minds?IP: Logged |
Hera
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posted November 09, 2011 09:17 PM
Well, since it seems my insomnia is back *sigh* I might just as well put it to some good use. I think anal sex has a very important psychological aspect to it. Not just because it's not "normal" sex (who am I to judge what is normal or not... normality is just statistics = most common), or the way we were taught to think about sexuality and the anal region. But also because it does seem to have very much to do with dominance and submission. And these are very deep intimacy issues. To me, at least. I was almost raped 3 times, said almost because I didn't let it happen and got out of those situations myself, with no outside help, because there was no "saviour" around. Aries Mars opp Pluto again - will fight for their life till the very last breath. So I'm not the submissive type, or don't think I am. So for me, at least in the beginning, anal sex was absolutely unacceptable! Because of the way I was raised, because of my abuse history and refusal to be dominated and because I also thought it was degrading for the woman. But I got more info on the subject and talked openly with my ex about it. I thought he saw it like Opium expressed it. There was some ring to it, in the fact that he finds it simply fascinating, but certainly not in a degrading way. For him it was about power and dominance, yes, but it was more like breaking all barriers between two people who love each other. And I confess I was more comfortable with the idea of it because he was willing to let me do the same to him. That took the whole dirty/degrating factor out of the ecuation.
I admit I'm still curious about it and a part of me regrets to have missed the opportunity to try it. From what my girl friends have told me, it is one hell of an experience (in the positive sense). I don't think I'd be tempted to try this with someone else, because I doubt I will reach this level of intimacy with someone else.
I think trust is definitely a must when doing anal. Because you allow someone access to a part of yourself that is.. well.. uncomfortable to say the least. IP: Logged |
Hera
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posted November 09, 2011 09:19 PM
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Originally posted by OpiumBreast:
Its tounge and cheek humor. You people are so serious. Or is it, you don't want me looking into your minds?
It's not that, not in my case at least. It's because you sound disrespectful and I cannot tolerate that. Towards me or anyone else. IP: Logged |
OpiumBreast
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From: california, America
Registered: Nov 2011
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posted November 09, 2011 09:20 PM
Anal to me is giving up complete control. If a girl lets you do her that way then you have extreme authority over her.IP: Logged |
OpiumBreast
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From: california, America
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posted November 09, 2011 09:22 PM
I am not being disrespectful. Text cannot indicate emotions. You are projecting. I am sorry that you perceived me in error. My words are just more concise and direct than others.IP: Logged |
Hera
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posted November 09, 2011 09:22 PM
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Originally posted by OpiumBreast:
Anal to me is giving up complete control. If a girl lets you do her that way then you have extreme authority over her.
And that makes you lose your respect for her? IP: Logged |
OpiumBreast
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From: california, America
Registered: Nov 2011
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posted November 09, 2011 09:25 PM
lose respect? hmmm. No, I don't think so. IP: Logged |
Hera
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posted November 09, 2011 09:25 PM
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Originally posted by OpiumBreast:
I am not being disrespectful. Text cannot indicate emotions. You are projecting. I am sorry that you perceived me in error. My words are just more concise and direct than others.
I am not perceiving you in error. But you should control what you say, you're not a 3 year old for God's sake. IP: Logged |
Hera
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posted November 09, 2011 09:26 PM
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Originally posted by OpiumBreast:
lose respect? hmmm. No, I don't think so.
You said it is degrading for the woman. That sounds like you don't respect your partners much. IP: Logged |
OpiumBreast
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From: california, America
Registered: Nov 2011
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posted November 09, 2011 09:28 PM
I never said that I do that with a lot of girls if any, I was just giving a psychological explanation of the act in a man's eye.IP: Logged |
Randall
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From: Saturn next to Charmainec
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posted November 09, 2011 09:30 PM
OpiumBreast has left the building.IP: Logged |
Hera
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posted November 09, 2011 09:32 PM
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Originally posted by OpiumBreast:
I never said that I do that with a lot of girls if any, I was just giving a psychological explanation of the act in a man's eye.
With whom do you do it, then? What does it take for you to take this step? And btw, just because you see it that way, doesn't mean all men see it like that. I have talked with a few who are into anal and they don't think the way you do. IP: Logged |
LEXX
Knowflake Posts: 9743
From: Still out looking for Schrodinger's cat.......& LEXIGRAMMING.♥.. is my Passion!
Registered: Apr 2009
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posted November 09, 2011 09:33 PM
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Originally posted by Randall:
OpiumBreast has left the building.
Thank you Randall. 
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Hera
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Registered: Sep 2010
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posted November 09, 2011 09:36 PM
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Anal or Vaginal or Oral.....
all simply variations and any submission/dominating/degrading/calling it dirty;
is strictly psychological.
To me personally they are all just sexual acts and have nothing to do with anything but preferences, nor degradation or dirty concepts.
I have started to see it like that too. Perhaps that was the lesson my ex was here to teach me, I don't know. Before I met him, I was very repressed sexually speaking, but now I feel more confident and have more freedom to express myself. I am happy I outgrew some of my limitations on the subject, too bad it's only in theory and not so much in practice. But hehe, I'm still young lol. IP: Logged |
LEXX
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From: Still out looking for Schrodinger's cat.......& LEXIGRAMMING.♥.. is my Passion!
Registered: Apr 2009
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posted November 09, 2011 09:48 PM
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Originally posted by Hera:
I have started to see it like that too, Lexx. Perhaps that was the lesson my ex was here to teach me, I don't know. Before I met him, I was very repressed sexually speaking, but now I feel more confident and have more freedom to express myself. I am happy I outgrew some of my limitations on the subject, too bad it's only in theory and not so much in practice. But hehe, I'm still young lol.
Keep exploring and enjoying!
Believe me, the orgasms get better as one gets older and are rarely singular!
Sex is not dirty or wrong betwixt consulting adults. Nor solo for that matter!
I simply do not want sex for sex sake as I did in my crazy youth.
I have to trust and love the person.
So despite my extremely high libido and being multi-orgasmic;
I am celibate.
But LOL!
Far from non sexual!
Yay for technology until I have a lover I desire.
And hope he loves all the variations!
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Hera
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posted November 09, 2011 09:48 PM
Still, psychology has a lot to do with it, with sex and intimacy in general. This is why I was curious to see what placements/aspects can make one into it. I suspected Scorpio had to play a big part into it, was expecting some Aqua maybe. I guess Libra placements too, since Libra rules that region (though I think the anus is ruled by Scorpio now that I think about it). No, probably Libras would be repulsed by the thought, am guessing Virgo placements too?IP: Logged |
Hera
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posted November 09, 2011 09:52 PM
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Originally posted by Hera:
I have started to see it like that too, Lexx. Perhaps that was the lesson my ex was here to teach me, I don't know. Before I met him, I was very repressed sexually speaking, but now I feel more confident and have more freedom to express myself. I am happy I outgrew some of my limitations on the subject, too bad it's only in theory and not so much in practice. But hehe, I'm still young lol.
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Originally posted by LEXX:
Keep exploring and enjoying!
Believe me, the orgasms get better as one gets older and are rarely singular!
Sex is not dirty or wrong betwixt consulting adults. Nor solo for that matter!
I simply do not want sex for sex sake as I did in my crazy youth.
I have to trust and love the person.
So despite my extremely high libido and being multi-orgasmic;
I am celibate.
But LOL!
Far from non sexual!
Yay for technology until I have a lover I desire.
And hope he loves all the variations!
Go, Lexx! LOL. I'm happy to see someone so at peace with their own sexuality (so unlike my previous self). I hope I will get there some day myself, being at peace with it.
Sex for the sake of sex is not for me, either. Definitely has to be with someone I love and trust! IP: Logged |
LEXX
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From: Still out looking for Schrodinger's cat.......& LEXIGRAMMING.♥.. is my Passion!
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posted November 09, 2011 09:58 PM
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Originally posted by Hera:
Still, psychology has a lot to do with it, with sex and intimacy in general. This is why I was curious to see what placements/aspects can make one into it. I suspected Scorpio had to play a big part into it, was expecting some Aqua maybe. I guess Libra placements too, since Libra rules that region (though I think the anus is ruled by Scorpio now that I think about it). No, probably Libras would be repulsed by the thought, am guessing Virgo placements too?
Well really not sure if Astrology has anything to do with enjoying anal or not. For example, many gay men enjoy
it and are from all the signs.
Maybe it is different for straight men and women?
I cannot answer that because I was born ambiguous and am wired differently than other women or men in the pelvic region.
So I count myself lucky in that I experience orgasmic pleasure in 3 areas, and whoa when all 3 go off simultaneously........oh yeah!
I am not sure if normal women physically get same pleasure;
being they do not have prostates, nor pseudo prostates.....
perhaps the G-Spot can be stimulated from the rectal side?
Maybe some women here could shed some light on that.
I am Scorpio btw.
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Originally posted by Hera:
Go, Lexx! LOL. I'm happy to see someone so at peace with their own sexuality (so unlike my previous self). I hope I will get there some day myself, being at peace with it.
Sex for the sake of sex is not for me, either. Definitely has to be with someone I love and trust!
I am at peace with my sexuality, just not my female self yet with a partner.
Simply put, I was always in "guy" mode with my bi and gay sexual partners.
So still have new territory to explore psychological during sexual relations.
I have never felt comfortable not being in control of the sexual acts nor being feminine
about them.
Always been the dominant one.
I suppose more has to do with being raped a few times than being born ambiguous.
I am female, just required surgery to "finish" me so I had a complete vagina.
Had all the inner parts but no outer vagina etc.
So for me, my future lover will have to be patient with me, because unfortunately, retroactive virginity is the result of long time vaginal celibacy for anyone with either severe trauma from giving birth, requiring reconstructive surgery, and or born without a complete vagina.
I have endured both conditions.
Retroactive virginity may sound nice but believe me it is horrible. 
I hope I will not require surgery to have vaginal sex again.
My ob/gyn said it may take time but a loving patient partner I love and trust can hopefully make it work out.
So yeah, to give myself to a lover from a woman point of view, both psychologically and physically, and my not needing to be the dominate one, is going to be a new thing for me.
There will have to be absolute trust and love.
So yeah comfortable with my sexuality as dominate, and my solo pleasures, but have never taken the female submissive role yet.
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Hera
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posted November 09, 2011 10:15 PM
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