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Linda Jones
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posted May 15, 2012 09:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Linda Jones     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Aquacheeka:
Neptune is in my 6th house, so I might finally have a chart explanation for my OCD

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There is an out-of-sign conjunction with my Mercury; it's the only aspect Neptune makes with my personal planets, though. I guess it would enhance my sense of spirituality? (That, or make me more foggy-headed and forgetful, right?)

Yes, you're right. The line between imagination and our three dimensional reality is one that all Neptune influenced individuals have to learn to walk. But if you have enough "grounding" in your chart ... in the form of earth placements, contacts to Saturn, placements in earth houses (including angles), this should not be too much of a problem. If not then one will need to work harder to blend idealism with practicality.

But from reading your posts I think you have a pretty quick thinking and clear mind. So your Neptune is going to enhance your idealism and spirituality.

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posted May 15, 2012 09:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mockingbird     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
*shrugs*

Makes sense to me.

When you know that someone has your back (in whatever capacity), it's a lot easier to take risks.

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posted May 16, 2012 12:21 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lonake     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Aquacheeka:
it can feel very exposing and make you feel a little vulnerable when you reveal your chart to people, it's sort of baring naked your psyche, you know? It's soooo personal and you sort of fear that you'll be judged (actually, I've yet to see a circumstance where it didn't subsequently happen, unfortunately

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Originally posted by Aquacheeka:
The more I think about it, the more it all makes sense from an astrological perspective.

The moon is in detriment in Capricorn; emotional sensitivity is always going to be a problem.

In a very real sense, Lonake does not have the ability to change and simply does not - cannot - *get it.*


Just so that we're clear on the subject. I'm tired of the high minded BS.
If you've changed, that's one thing. But if not...

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juniperb
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posted May 16, 2012 08:12 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for juniperb     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

This thread is too interesting to be derailed,

MB, always short and sweet,

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When you know that someone has your back (in whatever capacity), it's a lot easier to take risks.

A false sense of security risk or one with a stable challenge?

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Your task is not to seek for love, but merely to seek and find all the barriers within yourself that you have built against it. ~Rumi~

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Aquacheeka
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posted May 16, 2012 08:37 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aquacheeka     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by juniperb:
This thread is too interesting to be derailed


Thank you! I found the article to be of great interest, I wanted to share it with everyone and see if their own experiences reflected this. It struck a chord with me because I've watched my boyfriend blossom into an adult, a really driven and mature person over the course of our relationship. It gives me great pride to think that our mutual dependency (what I once was a little ashamed of in this era of "independent women") could be partially responsible for the way he's been flourishing, especially recently. When we met, his life was in a state of flux that he just seemed so OK with, there wasn't a whole lot of direction there, and there's been a complete reversal of that. It made so, so much sense to me. It also reminded me of an old quote from Jennifer Aniston (this was from during her marriage to Brad) wherein she said that you're always told as a woman that you need to love yourself and then you'll find someone to love you, but then she said, "Hell, I did it backwards." I could really identify with that because feeling that you are loveable, that boost to your self-esteem, really DOES give you the confidence to trust yourself and to take risks. Timidity is fundamentally about insecurity, and insecurity comes from not feeling that we are loveable. It is, I think, much harder to convince yourself that you are not loveable when you are truly loved. So yes, the article really explains so much for me on a personal level and I think anyone else who might be feeling at odds with the cultural messages today about being "strong, independent women who don't need no man" or men told that masculinity comes from promiscuity and detachment, or that we don't need close companionship or ties in one way or another, I thought maybe this would resonate with them, too.

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posted May 16, 2012 09:01 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aquacheeka     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
But hey, bad people/s*** disturbers will be bad people/s*** disturbers. It's just what they do. I guess if anything good comes of their attention-seeking and intrusive behaviour/not contributing anything constructive or positive to the conversation as per usual it's just having affirmation that I'm an accurate judge of character and should continue to trust my instincts Some people just poison the atmosphere with their very presence. Ya can't do anything but avoid.

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posted May 16, 2012 09:13 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for mockingbird     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by juniperb:

MB, always short and sweet,

A false sense of security risk or one with a stable challenge?


*squints eyes*

Both? With the proviso that I'm not talking about recklessness, more confidence.

Some people are islands unto themselves, but I know that it's easier for me to risk failing when I know that (even if I do fail) there's someone who thinks I'm the bees knees.

This even plays out in the studies of young child / parent interactions. Those who are "securely attached" to a primary caregiver are much more likely to go and explore their environments...especially as long as they can look back and see that Mom's still there (before object permanence is really established). She doesn't have to intervene, she just has to be there.

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posted May 16, 2012 09:23 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for juniperb     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Both? With the proviso that I'm not talking about recklessness, more confidence.

k, reckless risks vs confident risks. Gotcha

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Your task is not to seek for love, but merely to seek and find all the barriers within yourself that you have built against it. ~Rumi~

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posted May 16, 2012 04:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lonake     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Aquacheeka:
Ya can't do anything but avoid.

If you didn't reply to my posts, such as some in Astro 2.0, then this would be valid. Too bad you can't stick to it.

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Aquacheeka
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posted May 16, 2012 10:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aquacheeka     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Lonake:

If you didn't reply to my posts, such as some in Astro 2.0, then this would be valid. Too bad you can't stick to it.


Sorry, reply to your posts? I reply to all topics I find interesting irrespective of who the op is, it doesn't mean I am provoking the speaker. This is a DISCUSSION BOARD. What are you, 12?


For the record, I have no problem with you 'replying to my posts,' just contribute in a meaningful way, not just sarcastically or mockingly. Say something that is relevant to the topic, don't just be a bridge-dweller. You know, try and act like a normal and functional human being. I'm sure your acting abilities are sufficient that you can pull it off.


Then again, if you want to continue being a bridge-dweller for everyone to see (we already established on the other thread that we would no longer attempt to discourage you from being yourself), by all means!! Nothing I enjoy more than hammering a point home

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Aquacheeka
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posted May 16, 2012 10:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aquacheeka     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
To everyone else, I apologize for the derailment. Some of us are here to share ideas and contribute; others just come here to condescend and offend. What can I say... there are good people and bad people on LL... I guess it's just like real life

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