posted June 11, 2012 12:25 PM            

I just wanted to say, the use of pharmaceutical antidepressants has skyrocketed since the ban on direct-to-consumer marketing lifted in the US.

And that is a whole other area of dangerous escapism for many people.

The legality or illegality of a substance doesn't shed any light on how its usage will play out for each person, positively or negatively.

posted June 11, 2012 12:29 PM            

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Originally posted by Mblake81:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stiff

Interesting to see people so serious about making it to the grave, that is what happens no matter how you dodge it.

Hut 1-2-3-4 Hut, I admit I wanted to hang around for awhile.

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posted June 11, 2012 04:14 PM            

Around here, I don't think much would happen if you were caught with a few grams or a Q. Maybe the cop would confiscate it and smoke it himself? I'm serious. I'm married to an ex cop so I know what goes on. lol

On a side note...

Has anyone seen the docco "What if Marijuana cured Cancer?"

posted June 11, 2012 07:43 PM            

Seems kids who were raised in bad homes or on tv come to believe that life is all about getting money, at any cost. It seems to hold way too much importance these days. In the music, and anything mainstream.

I'm going thru another period where I have to avoid the news and boob-tube again. It's making me feel ill.
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posted June 11, 2012 07:49 PM            

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Originally posted by Faith:
^ Hilarious but tragic!

I just wanted to say, the use of pharmaceutical antidepressants has skyrocketed since the ban on direct-to-consumer marketing lifted in the US.

And that is a whole other area of dangerous escapism for many people.

The legality or illegality of a substance doesn't shed any light on how its usage will play out for each person, positively or negatively.

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I'd been curious for years what happened to the people working at a video store where they were all on antidepressants but didn't last long despite their being happy. I found out because the guy in front of me was a total asinine jerk and they basically acted like they were on low grade E and I complimented on them on how they kept their cool, professional, and all that, and that's when everyone behind the counter started telling me (and for everyone else to hear) how they were all on antidepressants. I had to admit that as creepy as I found that, they all did seem happy. But within a few months they were all replaced by people less happy.

I always wondered why they didn't work there for long. Did they go pursue their dreams now that they were happy? Could they not afford their rent along with therapy & a prescription working a video store? What?

And then a friend who used such meds in college told me that it worked like low grade E (and the drugs are similar enough though I forget the details) and after a couple of months she had the inability to orgasm (something E does to a lot of people) and also just started crying for no reason and having to up the dose to stay happy in a vicious cycle, couldn't concentrate on her studies, and eventually had to quit if she wanted to stay in college. It took her 3 months to get past the withdrawals and she said in retrospect she found cocaine more useful and having less side effects (and unlike antidepressants she did well with her school work) so she won't touch them again.

So I'm thinking those video store clerks all had the same crash she described. They stopped caring, needed more, in some cases not being able to orgasm (and I understand other forms of sexual problems come about commonly, too) stressed them out, and either upped the dosage or went through the withdrawal (even if they kept up the same dosage) possibly getting more meds (as it seems quite a few start collecting more prescriptions) until their happy life just couldn't stay happy anymore and they were without a job (and there's some disturbing evidence that these meds inspire criminal and suicidal behavior).

posted June 12, 2012 07:11 AM            

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Originally posted by T:
Mblake I watched that vid earlier. One of the saddest things I've seen in awhile. I almost thought it had to be a spoof (though I don't think it was).

Seems kids who were raised in bad homes or on tv come to believe that life is all about getting money, at any cost. It seems to hold way too much importance these days. In the music, and anything mainstream.

I'm going thru another period where I have to avoid the news and boob-tube again. It's making me feel ill.
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Anyway, people and their reasonings behind choosing to abstain or not are so fascinating. To each their own, i say.

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posted June 13, 2012 09:56 AM            

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Originally posted by Maka:

It's about like what T said moderation and not letting the "pot" be a focal point of your life.

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I was conflicted, because I didn't really understand why I was so upset that she was smoking pot. While I don't do it myself (often, like maybe once every few years or so), I'm pro legalization and don't have issues with people who use it.

I thought it was because I saw her as abusing it. Which led me down the path of attempting to define what I considered abuse.

Seeing this sentence just right now seems to sum it up better than anything I could have thought of myself. Thank you.

posted June 14, 2012 12:28 AM            

It's a big bundle of things...people.... etc...

Not your fault.

posted June 14, 2012 12:34 AM            

One of the best things we can do for these people is love them anyway, accept them, try to help...and just not judge. Just be there for them, as an ear and offer advice, if we have it.

Like you are doing for your friend.

Sometimes we have to leave them. Othertimes we can stay and help them. It depends on so many things.