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Junethird
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posted August 07, 2012 10:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Junethird     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I posted a similar post in another forum to get some astro insights... And other than an optimistic syn/comp chart... Iam still bothered and starting to feel really really really sad!!! iam a bit nervous to even check current composite progressed transits... I feel like a total idiot

From my point of view i have never broken his heart or anything like that. The general distrustfulness has always been part of his nature. He can smell a rat a mile away and he doesnt make "new" friends easily if anything its rare, very rare. Most everyone in his inner circle are people he has grown up with or and have been in his life for many many years.

Thats my argument, despite being seperated for a few years, we have known each other for about six years. He knows me. I guess cause iam just too genuine, wonderful, sweet and very unlike any of the woman in his inner environment there must be something wrong with me. A hidden agenda, as i guess in his experience, he knows woman want something from him or have an alterior motive ie: money hungry i guess. Which in my opinion is pretty dumb because one, altho he has gone on and had gfs and lived with them, he and i have never done that. I actually refuse to live with him unless we are ready to start the path to marriage. I have my house, he has his, its all good for me just like that until we are ready. He thinks thats odd. Whatever. I want us to live together because he chooses to committ to me and not because he doesnt like being alone. Thats my difference... Plus a few other things but that example is to give you a general idea. I work, i have always supported myself financially. I have my own savings. Iam doing ok. Back in our early 20's he knows i worked while going to university... What more proof does he need!!! He loves and distrust that because as i understand it... Its intimidating?! What?! Lol

So i think its easier for him to believe the worst and that its all a sham than to give in... Because i guess, and this is the romantic version, if he gives in and he is proven right he will feel like the biggest idiot because he knew better lol

Why does a man come back to his past, four years later if he isnt ready and can drop the ball and run? Why ask me if i love him? Why say to me we will get married and have 2 kids one day... Even say the number of guest from his side that includes his family and friends....in fact he is ready just being a big pansy!!!

Example:

Me: why didnt you tell me you went furniture shopping, i would have gone with you and helped you picked out stuff...
He replies: why, you have no influence on my choices.

Me: why didnt you tell me you went away...
Him: what... Now i have to tell you everything...

ARGHHHH!!! i wanna throw a rock at him!!!!

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posted August 07, 2012 10:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for aquaguy91     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
what are the aspects to his venus and moon like? he sounds like me , but he's alot worse.

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posted August 07, 2012 10:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Junethird     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by aquaguy91:
what are the aspects to his venus and moon like? he sounds like me , but he's alot worse.

The worst... Venus scorpio/gemini moon... I have the charts up in astro 2.0 under virgo men

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posted August 07, 2012 10:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ShyVirgo1979     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ohhhh june honey honey honey ur not an idiot. And dontchu ever say that again he's just being difficult. For reasons unknown to me lol

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posted August 07, 2012 10:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for aquaguy91     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Junethird:
The worst... Venus scorpio/gemini moon... I have the charts up in astro 2.0 under virgo men

its obvious some women have done a number on him, i guess the best thing to do is just continue to show him that you are trustworthy, how long have ya'll been together?

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posted August 07, 2012 10:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Junethird     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by ShyVirgo1979:
Ohhhh june honey honey honey ur not an idiot. And dontchu ever say that again he's just being difficult. For reasons unknown to me lol

Hey mama v

I cant help it anymore... Here he is being all suspicious and having all these dumb doubts, brainwashing himself and talking out of his butthole that I feel like i should be the one feeling what he is feeling, because despite him shutting me out, i still reach out and show up, even if i get the cold shoulder ... I dont like him anymore.. Stupid boys

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posted August 07, 2012 10:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ShyVirgo1979     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I think he really HAS brainwashed himself. He has no proof of anything. Only what his mind has convinced him of. And BOYS is accurate. Mature men don't do that. I know I'm not perfect and I don't expect him to b either but u have every right to b upset with him. Telling someone one thing and doing another isn't very nice.

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posted August 07, 2012 10:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Junethird     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by Junethird:
[b] The worst... Venus scorpio/gemini moon... I have the charts up in astro 2.0 under virgo men

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its obvious some women have done a number on him, i guess the best thing to do is just continue to show him that you are trustworthy, how long have ya'll been together?

Thats just stupid... Not you but the thought behind it... Because we already dated in the past when we were in our 20's... He knows me... We are 30 now.. Like at one point you know. Besides, i didnt break any of my promises... He even ignored my birthday!

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posted August 07, 2012 10:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Is this the man you told me about

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posted August 07, 2012 10:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Junethird     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
Is this the man you told me about


Hey pretty lady

Yes, that private analyzes is still on the back of my mind

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posted August 07, 2012 11:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Junethird     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I think we have a moon square pluto, moon opposite neptune and sun opposite venus.

I must be the pluto person, because clearly iam the only one being affected by the estrangement between him and i... I think its prolly a double whammy for me as i have my poor little moon in cancer

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posted August 07, 2012 11:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Hey pretty lady

Yes, that private analyzes is still on the back of my mind



Yes, I understand. I had one of my own

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posted August 07, 2012 11:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Hera     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ugh.. men are sometimes a peculiar species.. I know they say the same about us.. but really do hope in a future there will be peace among the genders..

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posted August 07, 2012 11:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Junethird     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hera, you are one of the loveliest people ive had had the pleasure of knowing cyberlly you understand much more than I... I agree, hopefully one day we can understand and then we can have peace among the genders.

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posted August 08, 2012 06:24 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for RegardesPlatero     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by aquaguy91:
its obvious some women have done a number on him

Why blame a woman? He has to take personal responsibility for his own behavior.

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posted August 08, 2012 11:40 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for aquaguy91     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Why blame a woman? He has to take personal responsibility for his own behavior.


i'm just acknowledging that he appears to have trust issues with women, didnt say it is right. he needs to deal with it in some form or fashion.

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posted August 08, 2012 11:43 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Padre35     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

Junethird, are you certain this gentlemen is into you?

It sounds as if he has a chance to include or exclude you from his life, he chooses to exclude you which is never a good sign to me.

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posted August 08, 2012 02:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Junethird     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hey Padre35,

My gut instinct is yes... I just dont understand his reservations. He has always been like this but at 23 it was fine, because we were both trying to figure out who we were and what we wanted... Its very hard for me to be patient and understanding at 30

Maybe because i hesitated to declare my love and he had to ask me on repeated occassions, if i loved him... In my defense it came out of the blue and i got very nervous... It took a few tries until i could squeek out a yes... And now that i finally said it, i have no problem, no fear to say it anymore... Its hard for me to verbally speak and say my intimate feelings of love and be vulnerable... I prefer to show it and stick to talking about butterflies and lillies. I blame my natal venus 12H in the begining he even tried to trick me into saying i love you...

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posted August 08, 2012 02:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Junethird     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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i'm just acknowledging that he appears to have trust issues with women, didnt say it is right. he needs to deal with it in some form or fashion.

I hope this doesnt come out as rude or argumentative... But he knows me. He even acknowledged, all on his own mind you, that now he realizes i was the only good thing in his life. It surprises him, astonishes him that i know him so well, that i can anticipate his needs or what he is thinking/feeling pretty well...He even acknowledged to me that he knows i dont want or need anything from him. But he still wavers.. I didnt start talks of marriage and kids together. I didnt profess my love first. He did that all on his own and then he balks... What?!

He even tried to trick me into believing he was turning 33 instead of 31... I was no silly gus, you are an 81 baby.. And then he acts all floored like how i can possible know all these intimate details about him... Omg!! He drives me crazy!! He is giving me wrinkles!!!

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posted August 08, 2012 04:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for aquaguy91     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Junethird:
I hope this doesnt come out as rude or argumentative... But he knows me. He even acknowledged, all on his own mind you, that now he realizes i was the only good thing in his life. It surprises him, astonishes him that i know him so well, that i can anticipate his needs or what he is thinking/feeling pretty well...He even acknowledged to me that he knows i dont want or need anything from him. But he still wavers.. I didnt start talks of marriage and kids together. I didnt profess my love first. He did that all on his own and then he balks... What?!

He even tried to trick me into believing he was turning 33 instead of 31... I was no silly gus, you are an 81 baby.. And then he acts all floored like how i can possible know all these intimate details about him... Omg!! He drives me crazy!! He is giving me wrinkles!!![/QUOTE

he sounds crazy.lol

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posted August 08, 2012 05:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Junethird     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
@Aquaguy91,

Iam so frustrated... And then he acts all stupid asking me why am i frustrated.. Whats wrong with me. Why? Why? WHY? I'll tell you why buddy.... he is maddening i tell you iam sorry i had to vent.

iam a gemini and i dont understand his gemini moon... Are all gemini moon men like this?

Iam going to give him a piece of my mind next week. Iam going to force him to see me and my little aries ram is declaring war and charging full speed with my taurus

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posted August 08, 2012 05:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Junethird     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Oh and he actually thinks i take notes when i talk to him so i can remember all the little details about him... He thinks i prolly have a little dark room in my house with pictures and full of all kinds of intimiate details about him and his likes and dislikes.

Iam like, no... Its called paying attention. Its because in the past you were important to me and i care. It easy because i love you retard. Grrr!!!!!!

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posted August 08, 2012 09:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for PixieJane     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Nothing wrong with you. The guy simply doesn't love you.

At times like this I'm grateful for having so many planets that give me my Sag optimism and adaptability. I tolerate caution at first (and I'll be cautious myself right back) but after a certain point if they push me away like he does you I go away and find someone better knowing someone better is out there. And it's worked for me.

Sorry it's not so easy for you. Here's a song for you...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tM8U-PIiWCk

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posted August 08, 2012 09:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Padre35     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Hey Padre35,

My gut instinct is yes... I just dont understand his reservations. He has always been like this but at 23 it was fine, because we were both trying to figure out who we were and what we wanted... Its very hard for me to be patient and understanding at 30

Maybe because i hesitated to declare my love and he had to ask me on repeated occassions, if i loved him... In my defense it came out of the blue and i got very nervous... It took a few tries until i could squeek out a yes... And now that i finally said it, i have no problem, no fear to say it anymore... Its hard for me to verbally speak and say my intimate feelings of love and be vulnerable... I prefer to show it and stick to talking about butterflies and lillies. I blame my natal venus 12H in the begining he even tried to trick me into saying i love you...


Hmm, could be, or he could just be a point where he just not feel the need to be in a serious relationship right now.

Everyone is different though, so ymmv!

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posted August 08, 2012 09:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Junethird     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by PixieJane:
Nothing wrong with you. The guy simply doesn't love you.

.... Sorry it's not so easy for you. Here's a song for you...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tM8U-PIiWCk


Harsh... But i appreciate your honest take and the lovely song pixieJane

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