posted August 19, 2012 09:48 PM            

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The point is with a possibly empty 8H [she hasn't specified where the outer planets are], a Virgo 8H cusp, a neutral Gemini Mars [as this guy has], it comes down to a few things. He may have Chiron in his 8H. He may have Saturn in hard aspect to Mercury, Mars, and/or Pluto. Or the synastry might have a problem. Correctly identifying it may help point out the way to easing this friction, and making both of them happy.[/B]

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He has an empty 8H. No hard Saturn aspects in his natal(just checked). Saturn natally for him is the following: in capricorn, conjunct neptune, sextile sun, sextile pluto.

Anything I should look at in our synastry that could point to issues? I had an astrologer look at our chart for good and bad things and they found the following:

Good Aspects:
Asc/Desc and MC/IC’s reversed, or complimentary
his Jupiter in conj. with my Asc
my Jupiter sextiles his 7th cusp and trines his Asc
my Moon in Capricorn conjoins his Uranus/Neptune
His Moon conjoins my N. Node and sextiles my Saturn (widely sextile my Sun)
my Venus trines his Mercury
his Venus is within range of the conjunction with my Pluto, but (fortunately) out of sign
His Mars in Gemini, sextiles my Asc. and trines my Desc., sextiles my Venus, trines my Jupiter, and widely squares my Mercury

Bad Aspects:
my Sun in Aq. (Air) is in (almost) exact sq. to his Sun in Scorpio (Water), which involves his pluto in my 4th house, and squares my saturn
my venus squares his uranus/neptune
my mars is opposite his uranus/neptune

posted August 20, 2012 08:23 AM            

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Originally posted by WaterBearingMaiden:
He has an empty 8H. No hard Saturn aspects in his natal(just checked). Saturn natally for him is the following: in capricorn, conjunct neptune, sextile sun, sextile pluto.

Anything I should look at in our synastry that could point to issues? I had an astrologer look at our chart for good and bad things and they found the following:

Good Aspects:
Asc/Desc and MC/IC’s reversed, or complimentary
his Jupiter in conj. with my Asc
my Jupiter sextiles his 7th cusp and trines his Asc
my Moon in Capricorn conjoins his Uranus/Neptune
His Moon conjoins my N. Node and sextiles my Saturn (widely sextile my Sun)
my Venus trines his Mercury
his Venus is within range of the conjunction with my Pluto, but (fortunately) out of sign
His Mars in Gemini, sextiles my Asc. and trines my Desc., sextiles my Venus, trines my Jupiter, and widely squares my Mercury

Bad Aspects:
my Sun in Aq. (Air) is in (almost) exact sq. to his Sun in Scorpio (Water), which involves his pluto in my 4th house, and squares my saturn
my venus squares his uranus/neptune
my mars is opposite his uranus/neptune

Composite is as smooth as butter.

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Lemme guess - he was born in November of 1990, and you were born in February of 1993? It's easier for me to see the charts. The following is based on this assumption.

Moon conjunct Uranus-Neptune is a double-edged sword. On one hand it can be a highly intuitive and empathic connection, like you can read each other's mind. At the same time, the unpredictable and independant nature of Uranus and the foggy nature of Neptune can be equally as befuddling.

He has a 12H Saturn, at home in a Capricorn-ruled 12H. That's not the best place for Saturn. It can indicate deep-seated fears, irresponsibility, and/or passivity. It sextiles his Sun-Pluto, so he may feel a little like he has no control over his life, or his direction. That kind of feeling can make a person terrified of change, especially as he matures and grows more familiar with his Sun. Sun conjunct its ruler even more so.

His Mars squaring your Mercury is not a good aspect. First of all, his Mars is ruled by Mercury, so having a sexual planet squared by its ruler is a point of contention. Mars indicates temper as well, so it can indicate explosive arguments, or an inability to reconcile your opinions. Secondly, your Mercury is an 8H planet, so that's like a double-dose. Your arguments stem from sexual subjects, or your opinions about sex/death/8H matters in general.

Another bad aspect is your Sun-Saturn squaring his Sun-Pluto. Sun square sun means you have different viewpoints on life, like you're going in totally different directions. He is stubborn and sensitive, and though Pluto represents transformation, it is on his own terms, especially with all that independant Sagittarian energy. He wants to funnel all that Plutonian energy towards work and career [MC], while you would rather make it up close and personal [IC]. Your Sun-Saturn is the "responsible" one, but also the criticizer. You may see it as an evolution in partnership, something to work together on [DC], but he might be taking it as a personal affront [AC]. Saturn in square formations means the Saturn person is the one making hurtful accusations, so I would keep an eye on that, if I were you.

You also have your Neptune [8H ruler] and Uranus [ruler of your Sun and DC] conjunct his 12H Saturn, which explains why you feel like he is the figurative **** -blocker. Add to that the fact that his Neptune-Uranus square and oppose your Venus and Mars indicates you are feeling emotionally and physically unfulfilled.

posted August 20, 2012 09:18 AM            

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Originally posted by Blind writer:
Lemme guess - he was born in November of 1990, and you were born in February of 1993? It's easier for me to see the charts. The following is based on this assumption.

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Yes. I was born Feb 16, 1993 at 4:41pm in Greenwood, SC USA; he was born Nov 19 1990 at 11:47am in Joinville, Santa Catarina, Brazil.I'm not sure how to use html in the board, because it's disabled for me. I will post direct links to our charts. This is our natals + composite: http://i65.photobucket.com/albums/h226/Kittee_got_clawz/astro_671 gw_01_04_summer_wertz_bruno_he7270022940.gif

This is the synastry chart: http://i65.photobucket.com/albums/h226/Kittee_got_clawz/astro_61gw _01_04_summer_wertz_bruno_he7280428307.gif

This is the table of aspects: http://i65.photobucket.com/albums/h226/Kittee_got_clawz/astro_61gw_01_04_summer_wertz_bruno4854415210.jpg

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Originally posted by Blind writer:
Looks to me like a synastry problem.

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posted August 23, 2012 02:10 AM            

I plugged in your info into astro.com, because I prefer placidus house system and I also wanted to check a few asteroids. First and foremost, I can say this is definitely a karmic relationship, and you were meant to meet. There is no doubt about that.

His asteroid Karma exactly conjuncts your Mercury. And your asteroid Karma exactly conjuncts his sun. His moon conjuncts your NN and your Vertex. Not to mention the karmic touch of his 12H Saturn on your Uranus-Neptune.

You both have asteroid Juno [reprenting the destined spouse] in the 11H, and due to your house alignments, that means his Juno falls in your 5H, and vice versa. You both have similar views on spousehood, and feel like a wife or husband should first be a friend, and both view the other as a person to have fun with, and enjoy similar things.

Incidentally, this explains why you are drawn to Cancer men - your Juno is in Cancer. You may have been drawn to this man, because Juno's dispositor is the moon, and his moon sits right on your NN and Vertex, giving you a very "destined" kind of a feeling. Another possibility is the fact your moon sits right on his Uranus, and Uranus is the ruler of your DC.

The problem point is the fact his Juno also conjuncts his Mercury, which means it's part of the t-square formation between your 8H Mercury, and his natal Mars-Mercury opposition. The good news is that his Mercury-Juno trines your Venus exactly. Your Juno quincunxes his Venus, and while not as great of an aspect, it's enough to be considered a Juno-Venus double whammy.

Both Saturn and Pluto are karmic planets as well, and have a kind of "sticking" power to them. Pluto is the transformer, and Saturn is the great teacher. Since you have these contacts, you have the capability of carrying this relationship for a long while. If you can be the gentle Saturn teacher, then Pluto will ultimately transform him.