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Topic: I thought fire signs were passionate, spontaneous, daring and....kinky?
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WaterBearingMaiden Knowflake Posts: 30 From: Registered: Jul 2012
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posted August 16, 2012 01:49 AM
So, I have venus in Aries, and Ascendant in Leo. I'm an Aquarius. Other than that, I have mostly water and earth (cap moon, pisces merc, cancer mars). Anyway, sexually speaking, I'm into trying exciting things. I like keeping the fires stoked, so to speak. Things like sex in public, sexy photos, bondage, etc all interest me. My boyfriend was born on the scorp/sagg cusp. He's a Scorpio, with moon, merc, venus all in Sagg, mars in gemini, and ascendant in Aquarius. I ask him to do some of the things above and he is unwilling due to insecurities, not feeling comfortable with the idea of them, shyness, and a lack of spontaneity. He has had a few hookups that were semi-public, but he was intoxicated, and didn't have a choice otherwise. He was also a lot younger. He had sex in a car in a parking lot with one of his exes. I'm completely confused, because it seems he did some sort of things like that with exes and past hookups but refuses with me, and I always thought air and fire signs were all for those types of ventures. What's going on? IP: Logged |
sand Knowflake Posts: 5356 From: 14.5530° N, 121.0199° E Registered: May 2011
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posted August 16, 2012 01:59 AM
i am water and earth too. scorpio and taurus. i think fire signs have a lot of kink in them. a sag knows a lot of things lol! one can learn a lot from sleeping with them. aries are the most straight up for me and leos eat my sign for breakfast.. IP: Logged |
sand Knowflake Posts: 5356 From: 14.5530° N, 121.0199° E Registered: May 2011
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posted August 16, 2012 02:00 AM
aqua women are one of the least inhibited too ime..IP: Logged |
lalalinda Moderator Posts: 2485 From: nevada Registered: Apr 2009
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posted August 16, 2012 02:22 AM
I don't think kinky is a good word for fire signs. why? well Leo would hate to be caught with their pants down, think pride and endless teasing. They do NOT want to be the butt of any joke.Aries doesn't want to feel bad about anything they do so they refrain, providing there is no alcohol/drugs involved. Sag can't be kinky with a straight face and their partners feel like they are being laughed at. Kind of kills the mood. passionate? yes spontaneous? yes kinky? No not sun signs alone. IP: Logged |
Lazyscarecrow Knowflake Posts: 501 From: En Cee Registered: Aug 2011
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posted August 16, 2012 02:25 AM
I would like to think the Air signs are more the kinky sort, with them being described as "experimental" and being able to separate their personal feelings and all... :PIP: Logged |
WaterBearingMaiden Knowflake Posts: 30 From: Registered: Jul 2012
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posted August 16, 2012 04:31 PM
That does make sense lalalinda. I don't know. With all of the fire in his natal I thought it would be something that he would be into, but maybe his Scorp sun and Aqua ascendant are holding him back. That or he has something in his natal afflicted. I can definitely agree with Aquarius being experimental ^^ heheOh, well. If he's not comfortable with it, he's not. I can't make him do something he doesn't want to do. IP: Logged |
ail221 Knowflake Posts: 874 From: Mary Margaret Blanchard's home Registered: Feb 2012
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posted August 16, 2012 04:34 PM
Maybe he respects you in a different way then his past exes'sIP: Logged |
Junethird Moderator Posts: 2827 From: Registered: Nov 2011
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posted August 16, 2012 04:49 PM
Wow really? Ive never had that problem with my guys. I have sun gemini, venus in aries. My ex had sun/mars in gemini and venus leo, scorpio moon, he was up for anything. My current love has moon in gemini, mars in leo and ASC/venus in scorpio and he too is about exploring different techiques Looks like you need a different kind of fire - Leo. and more scorpio/gemini influenced men. You gotta keep it hot and spicy in the bedroom IP: Logged |
Randall Webmaster Posts: 20875 From: Saturn next to Charmainec Registered: Apr 2009
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posted August 16, 2012 06:02 PM
Moving to Sweet Peas.------------------ "Never mentally imagine for another that which you would not want to experience for yourself, since the mental image you send out inevitably comes back to you." Rebecca Clark IP: Logged |
Padre35 Knowflake Posts: 358 From: charlotte, NC, US Registered: Jul 2012
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posted August 16, 2012 06:11 PM
Keep in mind he may not want to do those things b/c he is afraid of hurting you.I have Sag Sun/Leo Moon/Aries asc and because we are so active and instigating things we learn over time to be a bit more guarded or we can inadvertently hurt others. Which is the worst feeling in the world imo. IP: Logged |
libraschoice77 Knowflake Posts: 127 From: NYC Registered: Aug 2010
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posted August 16, 2012 06:18 PM
Interesting your Mars is in Cancer, so is mine and I am very much into the same as well. But then again I dont have any fire in my chart, do have alot of Pluto aspects in my natal though. Mabe that also contributes to the kink desire IP: Logged |
Blind writer Knowflake Posts: 107 From: Texas, USA Registered: May 2012
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posted August 16, 2012 07:29 PM
It's more than just the sun sign at work. With an Aqu AC, it means he might have a Virgo 8H cusp. Earth signs are not known for their spontaneity and daring. Also check for any 8H planets, as well as his Pluto, and how it is aspected. I would also check Saturn, and see how it aspects, especially Mars, Pluto, and his 8H ruler [which will be either Mercury or Venus].If you're interested in asteroids, you can also try looking at 433 Eros, 4386 Lust, and 1388 Aphrodite. Do remember too, people start out as their moons, and grow into their sun. He is growing more secretive as he ages, moving from the adventurous Sagittarian [moon] to a more Scorpionic energy [sun]. IP: Logged |
PhoenixFire Knowflake Posts: 597 From: The Crossing Registered: Jun 2009
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posted August 16, 2012 10:13 PM
Im very Sagittarrian & am experimental w/o laughing. I have a lot Sag friends who are also into different things. Probably has to do w Mars & the 8th house? I have Mars in the 1st, Jupiter in Leo in the 8th My Venus is in Scorpio, so while I dont usually laugh at kink, I dont feel free to express unless w someone I love. I dont do casual sex at allIP: Logged |
Stawr Moderator Posts: 1868 From: N. America Registered: Nov 2010
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posted August 17, 2012 03:04 AM
I like to experimentI am a bit more experimental than my guy. He is all water(Scorpio with a dash of Cancer) and earth (Capricorn with a dash of Taurus) There is this one thing I want him to do that I've talked about on here. He's tried but he is so uncomfortable with it. Chocking me that is. I'm reading 50 shades of grey so finally I ask him "hey what's a flogger?" he tries to describe it to me. And then he says "at that point you might as well be getting rapped." Meaning he is not into that at all. haha But I needed a visual so I google imaged searched flogger. And I've actually had a guy use one on me in the past, it only felt good cause I was high. But then I later found out they hurt when I'm sober. ------------------ Rising: Gemini Sun: Aries 11 Moon: Scorpio 6 Mercury: Taurus 12 Mars: Aquarius 10 Venus: Pisces 10 N.Node: Aquarius 9 Saturn: Capricorn 9 Jupiter: Cancer 2 Pluto: Scorpio 6 rx IP: Logged |
Stawr Moderator Posts: 1868 From: N. America Registered: Nov 2010
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posted August 17, 2012 03:17 AM
Yeah I know an Aquarius and Sagittarius man who talk about liking/wanting to have sex in front of other people. wtf I am not that way at all. I like my privacy. And am not putting a show on for anyone. Though I will have sex somewhere risky like a public place, or outside. As long as a absolutely know I wont get caught. IP: Logged |
sand Knowflake Posts: 5356 From: 14.5530° N, 121.0199° E Registered: May 2011
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posted August 17, 2012 03:58 AM
quote: Originally posted by Stawr: I like to experimentI am a bit more experimental than my guy. He is all water(Scorpio with a dash of Cancer) and earth (Capricorn with a dash of Taurus) There is this one thing I want him to do that I've talked about on here. He's tried but he is so uncomfortable with it. Chocking me that is. I'm reading 50 shades of grey so finally I ask him "hey what's a flogger?" he tries to describe it to me. And then he says "at that point you might as well be getting rapped." Meaning he is not into that at all. haha But I needed a visual so I google imaged searched flogger. And I've actually had a guy use one on me in the past, it only felt good cause I was high. But then I later found out they hurt when I'm sober.
is that like chick lit + some bondage? IP: Logged |
PixieJane Knowflake Posts: 788 From: CA Registered: Oct 2010
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posted August 17, 2012 05:02 AM
50 Shades of Grey is a very popular book right now that people typically either love or hate very passionately. Yeah, it's chick lit. I suggested in another thread not too long ago that maybe women were asking a guy to do things like whip her because that book is such a fad right now. Here, more about it: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fifty_Shades_of_Grey Before you check it out you might want to read the top 3 Amazon reviews at this time (of my posting the link), and if you really wanna be tortured, listen to Gilbert Gottfried read from it. IP: Logged |
geea Knowflake Posts: 150 From: +1GMT Registered: Jun 2011
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posted August 17, 2012 10:06 AM
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sand Knowflake Posts: 5356 From: 14.5530° N, 121.0199° E Registered: May 2011
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posted August 17, 2012 10:36 AM
quote: ..and if you really wanna be tortured, listen to Gilbert Gottfried read from it.
lmfao!IP: Logged |
WaterBearingMaiden Knowflake Posts: 30 From: Registered: Jul 2012
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posted August 17, 2012 06:51 PM
Yep, found out he has Virgo 8H =/ It says that tends to bring a constrained/restrained sex life. That's probably what's going on, or one thing at least.IP: Logged |
Blind writer Knowflake Posts: 107 From: Texas, USA Registered: May 2012
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posted August 17, 2012 08:01 PM
quote: Originally posted by WaterBearingMaiden: Yep, found out he has Virgo 8H =/ It says that tends to bring a constrained/restrained sex life. That's probably what's going on, or one thing at least.
It is not as bad as a Capricorn 8H cusp, at least. Virgo is the sign of service and servitude, so Virgoans take joy in "helping" others or making them happy. They can also be finicky, and are not the type to like "messy" trysts. They have high standards, so must be approached just right. With a Leo AC, you probably have a Pisces 8H cusp, ruled by Neptune, which is the planet which dissolves boundaries. You should be gentle and use that to your advantage [do not try and trick him, that Scorpio sun will see it coming a mile away, and eternally begrudge you for it]. Remember, you said he jumped into things when drunk, and Neptune also lords over alcohol. Check for any hard aspects between his Mercury and your Neptune, which may indicate a conflict. IP: Logged |
Lava Flower Knowflake Posts: 264 From: Registered: Feb 2012
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posted August 18, 2012 06:19 AM
I am involved with someone who has Aqua rising and Virgo on the cusp of 8th and he LOOOOOVEEES to experiment. He is up for anything, and I had many wild fantasies that he has made come true, very similar to yours (Hey, i'm also a Leo rising and I have moon in Cancer and Mars in Aqua We both have a lot of natal uranian aspects and he is also aqua sun, Pisces moon, Aries mars and Saggi venus conjunct Uranus 0*. I would see what Saturn is up to in his chart I can imagine how frustrating that is IP: Logged |
Ceridwen Knowflake Posts: 3910 From: Registered: Jul 2011
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posted August 18, 2012 12:34 PM
quote: Originally posted by PixieJane: 50 Shades of Grey is a very popular book right now that people typically either love or hate very passionately. Yeah, it's chick lit. I suggested in another thread not too long ago that maybe women were asking a guy to do things like whip her because that book is such a fad right now. Here, more about it: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fifty_Shades_of_Grey Before you check it out you might want to read the top 3 Amazon reviews at this time (of my posting the link), and if you really wanna be tortured, listen to Gilbert Gottfried read from it.
I don`t hate the book. I started reading it, but was bored out of my mind, so I put it down again.
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Blind writer Knowflake Posts: 107 From: Texas, USA Registered: May 2012
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posted August 18, 2012 02:45 PM
quote: Originally posted by Lava Flower: I am involved with someone who has Aqua rising and Virgo on the cusp of 8th and he LOOOOOVEEES to experiment. He is up for anything, and I had many wild fantasies that he has made come true, very similar to yours (Hey, i'm also a Leo rising and I have moon in Cancer and Mars in Aqua We both have a lot of natal uranian aspects and he is also aqua sun, Pisces moon, Aries mars and Saggi venus conjunct Uranus 0*. I would see what Saturn is up to in his chart I can imagine how frustrating that is
I have Virgo 8H cusp as well, and a Capricorn Mars, so you would figure I was a prude, but I have 4 planets in my 8H, including Pluto, and 3 planets in Scorpio, including the dispositor of the whole 8H stellium. My 8H ruler is conjunct Uranus, so the unexpected and different rule my day. The 8H and Scorpio energies strongly pull through in the end for me, and with my Sag sun, I'm all for trying new things. Your guy has an Aries Mars and a Sagittarius Venus, so no problems blazing forward into undiscovered country. The point is with a possibly empty 8H [she hasn't specified where the outer planets are], a Virgo 8H cusp, a neutral Gemini Mars [as this guy has], it comes down to a few things. He may have Chiron in his 8H. He may have Saturn in hard aspect to Mercury, Mars, and/or Pluto. Or the synastry might have a problem. Correctly identifying it may help point out the way to easing this friction, and making both of them happy. IP: Logged |
PixieJane Knowflake Posts: 788 From: CA Registered: Oct 2010
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posted August 19, 2012 09:47 PM
I think my Leo ascendant is generally why I'm not into public sex, sexy photos, and the like. Sex in public is often recorded with iphones and the like and has led to people being fired when their deeds showed up even on YouTube (and personally I get harassed enough as it is without doing something to add to that), and sexy photos, well those tend to be used in revenge and/or blackmail after the breakup (and sometimes before, and it amazes me how many stupid girls there are who send a nudie pic of herself to a guy she likes and then is shocked when the guy forwards the pic to all his friends who forward it to theirs and so on). My Leo dignity will not tolerate that. And my Libran energy allows me to tell you why. Beyond that I've been open to experimentation and I'm pretty uninhibited giving others what they want. But public sex (and I have experienced group sex before) would have to be in very secure surroundings where I was confident I wasn't going to wind up on the internet, and I'd be willing to take sexy photos but not pose for them (and I'd destroy any footage I knew of real fast by hook or by crook with the passion of my fire signs), and I put a guy in bondage before because he wanted it but past trauma (and possibly the regal inclinations of my Leo as well as Sag's love of freedom) won't let me allow anyone else to put me in bondage (though I'll pretend I'm in bondage or accept some "token" bondage thing). That aside I'm willing to do many things that much more hypersexual women than me aren't willing to do and for some reason seem less squeamish about it all (I suspect this is my air element from all the Libra energy mixed with Sag's uninhibitedness). IP: Logged |