posted August 23, 2012 02:12 AM            

why all of the arguing? This is sort of what I mean..my goodness start a thread about how to soften my image and now this?

I have come to a conclusion though..won't bother with the whole "soften my image" stuff, ipsa res lutqutor..Hippiechick is right

Glasses, fun t-shirts..uhm..no.

posted August 23, 2012 09:02 AM            

If we can't be civil and friendly, then what can we be?

"Good evening. How do you do?" or "Whads up. How ya' doin'" whichever is appropriate for the situation, does not mean "spread yourself cos' my dix is coming." I'm not out to boff every damn granny on the street (with certain exceptions... just kidding).

posted August 23, 2012 11:01 AM            

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Originally posted by YoursTrulyAlways:
What? Unfamiliar women chat it up with me all the time, and vice versa. At the airport, on the train, on a plane, in a supermarket and even in a hotel lobby. No one's trying to pick anyone up, and sex doesn't even come to mind. The conversations are usually about the weather, the markets, business, cooking, travel, vacations, education and what not. I flew a whole flight from coast to coast yecking about spouses and kids.

Isn't it a bit presumptuous to assume that just because I said hello, I want to get you into the sack?! What gives one such an ego that one is so incredibly gorgeous that sex is on everyone else's mind?

Can't people just be friendly and nice to each other? When I see a lady, I don't see a white woman or a black sister, or a potential lay. I see a human being. When someone sees me, it's nice to not be seen as a waving penis.

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posted August 23, 2012 11:24 AM            

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Originally posted by aquaguy91:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by YoursTrulyAlways:
[b]What? Unfamiliar women chat it up with me all the time, and vice versa. At the airport, on the train, on a plane, in a supermarket and even in a hotel lobby. No one's trying to pick anyone up, and sex doesn't even come to mind. The conversations are usually about the weather, the markets, business, cooking, travel, vacations, education and what not. I flew a whole flight from coast to coast yecking about spouses and kids.

Isn't it a bit presumptuous to assume that just because I said hello, I want to get you into the sack?! What gives one such an ego that one is so incredibly gorgeous that sex is on everyone else's mind?

Can't people just be friendly and nice to each other? When I see a lady, I don't see a white woman or a black sister, or a potential lay. I see a human being. When someone sees me, it's nice to not be seen as a waving penis.

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That's because neither of you live in a female reality where a seemingly perfectly friendly normal man, will turn nasty and sexually aggressive. How often has a women you talked to grabbed you into the bushes and violated or abused you. Never? Oh, I see. Well that explains your comfort level. How often does a woman experience abuse or rape from a man, usually a man she knows and would assume herself to be safe with?

"According to a study conducted by the National Victim Center, 1.3 women (age 18 and over) in the
United States are forcibly raped each minute. That translates to 78 an hour, 1,871 per day, or 683,000
per year.

According to the U.S. Department of Justice, nearly 6 out of 10 rape/sexual assault incidents are
reported by victims to have occurred in their own home or a the home of a friend, relative, or
neighbor.

51% of the sexual assault cases studied in the Women’s Safety Project survey were committed against
young women between 16 and 21 years old.

According to the U.S. Department of Justice, an estimated 91% of the victims of rape and sexual assault are female and 9% are male. Nearly 99% of the offenders they described in single-victim
incidents are male."
http://www.ncdsv.org/images/sexualassaultstatistics.pdf

Does THAT maybe explain why women are on guard with men, whether or not you think you are harmless and polite? Can either of you get that through your head and have a speck of empathy rather than dismiss it because it's not convenient for you to accept?

Not all women walk around in fear. Not all women refuse to talk to unknown men, obviously, but surely you can understand why lots don't or lots react poorly if they feel uncomfortable with you.

posted August 23, 2012 11:47 AM            

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Originally posted by aquaguy91:
I agree. people talk to me. and I don't see a problem with it.

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posted August 23, 2012 11:50 AM            

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Originally posted by redshift:
That's because neither of you live in a female reality where a seemingly perfectly friendly normal man, will turn nasty and sexually aggressive. How often has a women you talked to grabbed you into the bushes and violated or abused you. Never? Oh, I see. Well that explains your comfort level. How often does a woman experience abuse or rape from a man, usually a man she knows and would assume herself to be safe with?

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And therefore that justifies an audaciously insolent response to a greeting of simple courtesy. "Good morning," definitely means "I'm gonna come over and rape the sh1t out of you." Is that it?

No woman has ever raped me before, but I am a survivor and a definite victim of rape. Have you been sexually raped before?! If so, my sympathies, please share. Otherwise, this rape victim asks for no consideration other than simple courtesy, human dignity and basic respect.

And those of you that have never been raped can just as well shut the hell up.

posted August 23, 2012 11:56 AM            

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Originally posted by redshift:
That's because neither of you live in a female reality where a seemingly perfectly friendly normal man, will turn nasty and sexually aggressive. How often has a women you talked to grabbed you into the bushes and violated or abused you. Never? Oh, I see. Well that explains your comfort level. How often does a woman experience abuse or rape from a man, usually a man she knows and would assume herself to be safe with?

"According to a study conducted by the National Victim Center, 1.3 women (age 18 and over) in the
United States are forcibly raped each minute. That translates to 78 an hour, 1,871 per day, or 683,000
per year.

According to the U.S. Department of Justice, nearly 6 out of 10 rape/sexual assault incidents are
reported by victims to have occurred in their own home or a the home of a friend, relative, or
neighbor.

51% of the sexual assault cases studied in the Women’s Safety Project survey were committed against
young women between 16 and 21 years old.

According to the U.S. Department of Justice, an estimated 91% of the victims of rape and sexual assault are female and 9% are male. Nearly 99% of the offenders they described in single-victim
incidents are male."
http://www.ncdsv.org/images/sexualassaultstatistics.pdf

Does THAT maybe explain why women are on guard with men, whether or not you think you are harmless and polite? Can either of you get that through your head and have a speck of empathy rather than dismiss it because it's not convenient for you to accept?

Not all women walk around in fear. Not all women refuse to talk to unknown men, obviously, but surely you can understand why lots don't or lots react poorly if they feel uncomfortable with you.

Why don't you can the "yeah, buddy, what's those beetches problems man. Right on bro, feckin beetchy unreasonable women..i'm doing everything right man so nothing is my fault dude, it's all those beetches fault." bullshite.

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posted August 23, 2012 12:32 PM            

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Originally posted by redshift:
That's because neither of you live in a female reality where a seemingly perfectly friendly normal man, will turn nasty and sexually aggressive. How often has a women you talked to grabbed you into the bushes and violated or abused you. Never? Oh, I see. Well that explains your comfort level. How often does a woman experience abuse or rape from a man, usually a man she knows and would assume herself to be safe with?

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it doesent have to be about "female reality"...there are also killers and robbers and all sorts of nasty people...eventually both men and woman need to look out for any type of potential assault....and its under that persons sole decision if to trust one or not

saying that "statistics say" dont make male victims any less important...and you dont even have half an idea on how many men actually get raped cause many dont report

posted August 23, 2012 05:22 PM            

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Originally posted by aquaguy91:
heres a true story of a rude girl i encountered. a year or so ago i added a girl on facebook, she accepted my friend request. i don't know how ya'll see it but i always assume a person is open to conversing if they add me on a social networking site, i mean i dont add people if i dont intend on getting to know them. but anyway after she accepted ,i shot her a friendly" hey,how are you?" type of message and here was her response" dont f*cking talk to me! your an ugly freak! i have a f*cking boyfriend,i'm not interested!! so f*ck off! all those insults in response to simple friendly email, do ya'll really think thats called for in that situation? so anyways i responded back with this" oh i'm sorry for bothering you, i just figured since you added me it was ok to talk, anyways again i'm sorry for upsetting you soo much, i wont anymore." well she took being a b*tch to the next level in this next response"i said dont f*cking talk to me, leave me alone you freak,your getting on my f*cking nerves!!" all of that for me simply apologizing for upsetting her after she had already been unneccesarily rude to me. needless to say i blocked the b*tch after that. but anyways this is the type of behavior i have a problem with. she could have simply said" i have a boyfriend, so i'm not comfortable chatting with another guy." or simply ignored my message or she could have rejected my friend request to begin with, i would have respected all of those responses and knew she wasnt interested in talking to me. but the way she handled that situation was uncalled for, i'm sorry,maybe she was scared of me or whatever, but it does not justify talking to me in the way she did.

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did you know her? i can understand how a man suddenly sends you a friend request and then starts talking to you and you freak out cause god only knows who he is and what he can do...

posted August 23, 2012 05:29 PM            

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Originally posted by doommlord:
did you know her? i can understand how a man suddenly sends you a friend request and then starts talking to you and you freak out cause god only knows who he is and what he can do...

her reaction was rude but people allow themselves be stupid on the internet....she probably didnt even looked to see if she knew you or was interested in talking to you...she just added you....just be happy that you dont have to put up with her now....and send prayers for her boyfriend

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posted August 23, 2012 05:40 PM            

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Originally posted by aquaguy91:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by doommlord:
[b] did you know her? i can understand how a man suddenly sends you a friend request and then starts talking to you and you freak out cause god only knows who he is and what he can do...

her reaction was rude but people allow themselves be stupid on the internet....she probably didnt even looked to see if she knew you or was interested in talking to you...she just added you....just be happy that you dont have to put up with her now....and send prayers for her boyfriend

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my my.... eventually everyone plays according to his own whims...you can expect much but it was up to her....and she was stupid...

although i understand your love of social networks you must understand not all share this viewpoint...many people actually use the network just to communicate with the people close to them and not to go and meet strangers

posted August 23, 2012 08:14 PM            

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Originally posted by redshift:
[B] That's because neither of you live in a female reality where a seemingly perfectly friendly normal man, will turn nasty and sexually aggressive. How often has a women you talked to grabbed you into the bushes and violated or abused you. Never? Oh, I see. Well that explains your comfort level. How often does a woman experience abuse or rape from a man, usually a man she knows and would assume herself to be safe with?

"According to a study conducted by the National Victim Center, 1.3 women (age 18 and over) in the
United States are forcibly raped each minute. That translates to 78 an hour, 1,871 per day, or 683,000
per year.

According to the U.S. Department of Justice, nearly 6 out of 10 rape/sexual assault incidents are
reported by victims to have occurred in their own home or a the home of a friend, relative, or
neighbor.

51% of the sexual assault cases studied in the Women’s Safety Project survey were committed against
young women between 16 and 21 years old.

According to the U.S. Department of Justice, an estimated 91% of the victims of rape and sexual assault are female and 9% are male. Nearly 99% of the offenders they described in single-victim
incidents are male."
http://www.ncdsv.org/images/sexualassaultstatistics.pdf

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Sure, and to that I say there is a difference between merely having a conversation in an appropriate setting and understanding social awareness.

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Does THAT maybe explain why women are on guard with men, whether or not you think you are harmless and polite? Can either of you get that through your head and have a speck of empathy rather than dismiss it because it's not convenient for you to accept?

Not all women walk around in fear. Not all women refuse to talk to unknown men, obviously, but surely you can understand why lots don't or lots react poorly if they feel uncomfortable with you.

Why don't you can the "yeah, buddy, what's those beetches problems man. Right on bro, feckin beetchy unreasonable women..i'm doing everything right man so nothing is my fault dude, it's all those beetches fault." bullshite.

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There is a difference between politely declining, or making it obvious that a women is not interested in speaking with a man, and being simply being rude.

For example, if one is at a social event, one would expect social behavior.

posted August 23, 2012 10:10 PM            

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Originally posted by YoursTrulyAlways:
It's Round 12 and the men have made a surprising comeback! Except there are no women in the boxing ring. Lol

This was supposed to be a civil discussion. Now it's a farce.

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posted August 23, 2012 11:14 PM            

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Originally posted by YoursTrulyAlways:
It's Round 12 and the men have made a surprising comeback! Except there are no women in the boxing ring. Lol

This was supposed to be a civil discussion. Now it's a farce.

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Well, my occassional immaturity aside, the thread did take a rather unexpected turn one that I'm not really sure can be handled with compassion over the internet.

posted August 24, 2012 12:28 AM            

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Originally posted by YoursTrulyAlways:
Yeah. Unlike you guys, I have nothing to protect and say it like it is. Mama said stupid is as stupid does. You can't reason with stupid.

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Indeed.

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Our good buddy here Dusty became part of management and he's now muzzled. I don't have to appease any constituency and will become anyone's worst nightmare if I choose to do so.

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Have no idea what that means.

posted August 24, 2012 12:57 AM            

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Originally posted by YoursTrulyAlways:
Yeah. Unlike you guys, I have nothing to protect and say it like it is. Mama said stupid is as stupid does. You can't reason with stupid.

Our good buddy here Dusty became part of management and he's now muzzled. I don't have to appease any constituency and will become anyone's worst nightmare if I choose to do so.

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