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Faith
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posted November 12, 2012 08:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
This past week, a good friend of mine revealed that she's surprised when other people talk about stuff like who their teachers were in school, what they got for Christmas, what their rooms looked like growing up...because basically, she can't remember anything, either.

So...is this common? I'm starting to wonder.

How much can you remember?

What astrological aspects might predispose a person to forgetting their childhood?

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posted November 12, 2012 09:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for PixieJane     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Interesting!

I'm generally good with kids and I think a reason is that I remember in vivid detail what it's like to be one.

I see how many adults treat kids (and I mean to include in well-meaning but counterproductive ways) and think, "Don't you remember being a child and how you used to look at and lose respect for adults like yourself?" And maybe the answer is that they don't remember!

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posted November 13, 2012 01:08 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for doommlord     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
im not so long past childhood

but i have entire grades erased from mmy mind...maybe a memory here and there but i cant connect it to a specific day or year

its like someone flushed my memories down the toilet XD

i have no idea how that happend or how it keeps happening...maybe those mermories werent important enough

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RedScorp
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posted November 13, 2012 01:09 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for RedScorp     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I only remember bits and pieces...a few memories here and there, and they're often idyllic and recalled in a "summer haze" kind of view.

On paper, it sounds like a Moon/Fourth House thing...

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cathy
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posted November 13, 2012 02:40 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for cathy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Faith, you're fortunate to be able to remember your childhood vividly. I don't remember anything before I was around 10 even then there's only fragments of memory.I have no idea why.

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posted November 13, 2012 06:32 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for mockingbird     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I remember very little of my childhood.

A while back I read something about childhood memories being incredibly linked to physical affection - if it lacked, memories were much less likely to be cemented. The article mentioned adulthood memoirs specifically mentioning that entire Victorian childhoods had been forgotten.
(I'd search for it for you, but I'm just popping on before my own children wake up.)

But, anyway - there may be that link.
I can certainly say that the correlation holds for me.

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YoursTrulyAlways
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posted November 13, 2012 07:55 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for YoursTrulyAlways     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Mine are indelible, in full glory detail.

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posted November 13, 2012 10:24 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for anonymidarkness     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I can write a book about my childhood just like you,I have got 5 planets in 4th house,maybe they are responsible for it,holding on to the past.My childhood was awesome.Maybe she did not like her childhood.My teenage years have been very messy,I would probably like to block out the memories from my teenage years when I get past it.

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posted November 13, 2012 10:41 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted November 15, 2012 06:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mockingbird     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Faith - I'm not ignoring this thread, but want to wait until I can get to my computer so that I can write a thorough response.

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If I've included this sig, it's because I'm posting from a mobile device.
Please excuse all outrageous typos and confusing auto-corrects.

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posted November 15, 2012 08:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for RedScorp     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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My father had an extremely Victorian upbringing

What does dat mean?

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posted November 16, 2012 01:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted November 16, 2012 01:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted November 16, 2012 04:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for RedScorp     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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There were some wrong-headed doctors back in the late 1800's and early 1900's who encouraged absolute formality and restraint between parents and children.

Ohhhh okay wow yeah that sounds terrible. Children need affection! My uncle tried to instil a Bohemian childhood on me/my sis whenever he had the chance, and he even raised me for a period. Betweeen Victorian and Bohemian, I'd prefer Bohemian.

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posted November 17, 2012 05:42 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Xiiro     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm very similar to your friend. My childhood memories are like a story someone else told me. I remember events happening, but don't remember ever being there. I have emotional memories about certain places, but no pictures to go along with them. In fact I can list off all the things I have actual memories of being present for:

Putting a hose in a patch of dirt in our back yard and playing in the mud

Braking my sister's arm rollerskating

Our new basset hound puppy tripping over her ears when she ran.

Seeing the next door neighbor's dog's rubbery nose through a hole in our back yard fence

A huge tomato worm hissing at me with fangs and a demonic face.

Dad running over a giraffe on the freeway, in our family station wagon

Swimming at the community pool

Swimming in a freezing river at Yosemite.

Pretending to be wonder woman on the street corner.

Getting dive bombed by an oriel on the way to my friend's house

The day my parents told us they were getting divorced.

Aaaaand that's about it.

Wow, that was more than I thought I would remember and as you can see, some of those memories don't even make sense. I have friends who remember playing in their crib and that concept is completely beyond me. All my memories take place between ages 5 and 7.

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posted November 17, 2012 07:12 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted November 17, 2012 04:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Hera     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I remember some stuff. Some I have forgotten. Mostly the good stuff. I remember the bad, though. And there are things I'm not sure happened, to me, to someone else, they're blurry.
Some memories got back to me after I faced the child sexual abuse. Some are still blocked.

A part of me is in regression though. As if I'm reacting to stuff happening like a child. I am making new memories. In a way, I appreciate that a part of me is still so pure and undiluted, but it makes me tad naive now and then.

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posted November 17, 2012 05:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Xiiro     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Faith:
... I'm laughing in shock at this... your dad ran over a giraffe on the freeway?? Can you explain more about that, or don't you remember?

LOL yeah, weird story. I was probably 4 or 5 when my family was driving home at night and dad ran over something HUGE.

Back then there were no seat belt laws in CA, so my parents sat in the front, my three siblings were strapped into the back seat, and I hung out in, what we referred to as the back-back. Basically the trunk part, but still open and attached to the rest of the interior. I remember I was laying on my back, staring out the rear windshield into the night sky, and watching the street lamps whiz by as we traveled. But suddenly the car lurched and I vaguely remember my dad pulling over to assess the damage. I also vaguely remember my sisters and mom were upset and I wasn't allowed to look outside.

Somehow my memory is, we hit a giraffe. I'm not sure where I got that memory, but it is as vivid a memory as any of the others. A few years back I was driving with my sister and it dawned on me that I had this fantastical memory floating around my head and completely convinced my Dad massacred a giraffe. When I asked my sister about it, she said we were driving a good distance behind a horse trailer who tragically lost a horse. Apparently we plowed into the corpse accidentally.

Either way, my brain still insists it was a giraffe.

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posted November 23, 2012 11:54 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for mockingbird     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by RedScorp:
Ohhhh okay wow yeah that sounds terrible. Children need affection! My uncle tried to instil a Bohemian childhood on me/my sis whenever he had the chance, and he even raised me for a period. Betweeen Victorian and Bohemian, I'd prefer Bohemian.

Here's an article that includes some of the hilariously awful advice offered up:
http://www.slate.com/articles/double_x/doublex/2012/11/bad_baby_advice_a_history.html

Faith - I'll take a look at my chart in a bit. It's been a busy holiday season.
Off hand, my (da da dummm) 3rd House Aqua Moon doesn't seem like the warmest thing ever, and my tight Saturn/Sun/Neptune t-square's fun.

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posted November 24, 2012 01:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted November 26, 2012 01:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Doux Rêve     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have almost no memories from my childhood, either. It's actually quite sad because I have nothing interesting to say about my younger years, except for some tiny bits. And most of my memories are painful/dark. Such a shame..

I have Moon opposite Saturn (5th/11th) and they rule my IC/MC axis, respectively.

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posted December 17, 2012 04:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mockingbird     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I like your theory about Neptune/Saturn and memory.

Some days I can remember an event or fact perfectly, some days I couldn't recall the same if my life depended on it.

I wonder what that's about, too.

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posted December 17, 2012 08:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ail221     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I pretty much remember everything from my childhood. I even remember things from kindergarten

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posted December 19, 2012 06:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Sorcha     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have so many memories of my childhood - good and bad. I do have several friends who recall virtually nothing about their childhoods, but I'm not sure I know what the pattern is yet...

One friend who has forgotten virtually everything has a huge 4th house stellium, but she has Uranus and Mercury conjunct her IC so maybe that would explain it?

Another friend went through quite a lot of sexual abuse so understandably, she has lost a lot of her early memories. I have to admit, I do tend to wonder about there possibly being some type of trauma as a reason when there is a loss of memory in childhood.

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posted December 19, 2012 06:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for PixieJane     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
People seem to have 2 ways of handling extreme trauma: either dissociate (which often leads to memory loss, or even memory alteration) or PTSD (which is essentially the memory burned into the brain). I'm prone to the latter AND I have a very good long term memory, I can share some of the most trivial memories from when I was 4, and can recall to when I think I was 2. I don't know if whatever gives me a good memory is what causes me to respond to trauma with PTSD (instead of dissociation and forgetting) or not.

Yet strangely, I do have gaps. For example, Granny shared (and it sounded familiar as I heard it but I couldn't quite recall) how I, at age 4, grabbed an unattended cigarette and made myself sick off of sucking it. After that I took to taking the cigarette out of her mouth whenever she lit up until she started spanking me for it. However, I do recall less than a year later being too scared to take a cigarette away from Dad when he was passing out drunk with a lit cigarette in his hands, which would be explained by my being spanked over having taking cigarettes away from adults before. And interesting enough I had nightmares of Dad then and he dropped his cigarette which instantly created a fire that chased me everywhere I went which makes me wonder if I didn't accidentally burn myself with a cigarette, too (though maybe it was just symbolic of the chaos he and Mom brought to my life by taking me away from Granny).

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