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Topic: BDSM in synastry
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ail221
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From: Mary Margaret Blanchard's home
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posted January 06, 2013 12:50 PM
  
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Originally posted by Hera:
Ceri, Given the mythology of Lilith, I was surprised to see that precisely in some charts of Dominas it made no significant aspect. But maybe the asteroid might. Will have to re-check charts for that and the mean BML. Yeah, he's intense lol. He has the conjunction, I have the square. Mine is wider though. Oh, forgot to mention his conjunction is square to Nessus, which sits on my DC.  (and squares my Dejanira). Speaking of that, I wonder if Dejanira might play a role in submissives' charts, Nessus for dominants. Well I know mine do - both of them, actually.
BML doesn't show as readily as Salome, Messalina and Lamia look at those Asteroids which I found to be more prominent. One of the reasons I use all of the lilith's i.e True BML, Mean Lilith, and the asteroid lilith because they don't react the same way, their different. IP: Logged |
ail221
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posted January 06, 2013 01:04 PM
Smuts 1731, Salome 562, Messalina 545, Lameia 248, One Dominatrix I know well former, she has:
Salome in Aquarius 8th house BQ Moon exact
Salome conjunct Jupiter
Salome sextile Uranus
Salome sq NN
Messalina in 12th sq Moon and MC
Messalina sextile BML
Messalina trine Vesta
Lameia in 1st sextile moon
Lameia trine Saturn/vertex/pars fortune
Lameia sq BML exact/Vesta For fun I added Smuts 
Smuts sq Sun and trine venus
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Ceridwen
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posted January 06, 2013 01:43 PM
Just a thought.Lilith demanded equality, not dominance. IP: Logged |
ail221
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posted January 06, 2013 02:07 PM
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Originally posted by ail221:
whether you think she was a succubus or just a fiery independent spirit she refused to "lay beneath adam" because he didn't view her as his equal.
I stated that earlier. But Hera brought up the topic of dominas. IP: Logged |
Ceridwen
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posted January 06, 2013 02:13 PM
Yes.Sometimes I wonder though if the Black Moon really is pure Lilith-mythology.
I know, I know, we call her Lilith and everything, but actually this is a calculated point, describing a certain relationship between Sun, Moon and Earth. Maybe she is really Lilithian, maybe she is more "dark side of the Moon"; maybe these are interchangeable, maybe not. I haven`t made up my mind about this yet. I think who absolutely undoubtedly expresses the Lilithian character is asteroid "Lilith" in any case.
As for the Black Moon, the jury is still out on this one - at least for me. IP: Logged |
Desiderata
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From: Brazil
Registered: Oct 2012
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posted January 06, 2013 11:15 PM
I know it's about Dominas, but if you want for the sake of comparison, here's the position and aspects of BML and the other mentioned asteroids in my chart (I'm a sub): BML 17º Cancer H2
Square Jupiter and Mercury
Trine Lameia Salome 18º Gemini H1
Conjunct Chiron
Opposite Saturn
Square Lameia
Sextile Jupiter and Mercury Messalina 28º Virgo H4
Opposite Lameia
Opposite Venus (by orb, not by sign)
Trine AC Lameia 23º Pisces H10
Square Saturn AND again, I know it's about Dominas and all the asteroids are feminine ones, but here's the position of the same in my Dom's chart. BML 2º Capricorn H2
Square Pluto
Trine Sun
Opposite Messalina and Saturn
Trine Mars
(Square my Venus, trine my Sun) Salome 20º Libra H12
Conjunct Uranus
Opposite Chiron
Sextile Mercury and Lameia
(Opposite my Mercury, trine my Chiron, sextile my Saturn) Messalina 4º Cancer H8
Conjunct Saturn
Square Pluto
Trine Mars
(Square my Venus, sextile my Sun) Lameia 22º Leo H10
Conjunct Mercury
Trine Chiron
Trine NN
Square AC
(Square my AC and DC, trine my Saturn and my Mercury) I think they're pretty much expressive in his chart. And I've always thought it was funny, that he has Mars in Taurus (feminine), Saturn in Cancer (feminine), Sun in Virgo (feminine), and Moon in Cancer and Venus in Libra, I mean, a chart that looks more feminine and delicate than mine (a lot of personal planets in Aries, including Venus, Mars at the first House). Still he's the Dom and he would never ever switch. Me neither, from my position of slave. I don't have even curiosity in dominate o.O IP: Logged |
ail221
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posted January 07, 2013 12:19 AM
Well he's probably always the dominant one because of his venus in aries IP: Logged |
Desiderata
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posted January 07, 2013 12:23 AM
His Venus is in Libra. Mine is in Aries  IP: Logged |
ail221
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posted January 07, 2013 12:30 AM
Oops got your chart confused with the op's chart. Still cardinal energy plus opposite signs have a weird effect on one another. IP: Logged |
Hera
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posted January 07, 2013 10:39 AM
quote:
Originally posted by Ceridwen:
Just a thought.Lilith demanded equality, not dominance.
That is true. IP: Logged |
downtomars
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posted January 12, 2013 11:10 AM
The man I'm with now has Sun-Mars conjuct his AC and I have Sun-Venus conjunct the DC. He has actually said "You're submissive, I like that..." We aren't into BDSM but our roles are clearly defined...IP: Logged |
ail221
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posted January 12, 2013 11:32 AM
Ehh some people are just more comfortable in traditional sexual gender roles. Sometimes its not necessarily a interest in nipple clamps, ball gags, leather whips, "rings", harnesses, spanking paddles etc. Its just more of a interest in primal domination I suppose.Plus BDSM doesn't necessarily mean sexual intercourse, pleasure is derived from the act of BDSM. IP: Logged |
Hera
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posted January 13, 2013 01:38 AM
^Yeah, though when the man is the dominant sex is usually in the package, when the woman is the dominant the sex is mostly absent as a means to control the partner. Personally I keep the intercourse vanilla, but bdsm is an awesome foreplay! IP: Logged |
Hera
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posted January 13, 2013 01:44 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qv5aSQ-Qg7M IP: Logged |
ail221
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posted January 13, 2013 10:13 AM
Ehhh vanilla I am more of a saffron girl  IP: Logged |
Desiderata
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From: Brazil
Registered: Oct 2012
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posted January 13, 2013 11:38 AM
Love the lyrics of the song you posted, Hera IP: Logged |
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