posted March 08, 2013 04:27 AM            

I bike commute, in extreme weather.

I have various Scorpio and Pluto placements,

Went out earlier today, had a nice time. Went out late late, think 12:50ish..on a bike, when it is 23 degrees or so.

Popped into my favorite local uptown bar completey toned down...think glasses, 3 sweaters, gray trench coat

Just peddled 3 miles uphill and had to do it in 20 minutes..Showed up and it was..weird

-Bartender told me "You are Dark Man, you just show up"

-Younger woman literally stepped and said "You are creepy"

Prior to all of that..had not said a word to her (she was far far to young)

BUT it just seems like I scare people who do not know me.

Is it Scorpio intensity? Pluto?

posted March 08, 2013 04:35 AM            

I saw your photo n read some of your posts n you don't seem at all scary or intimidating, you seem to be quite friendly.

posted March 08, 2013 04:47 AM            

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Originally posted by 12muddy:
Be proud of it. Scare them some more =D

I saw your photo n read some of your posts n you don't seem at all scary or intimidating, you seem to be quite friendly.

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My goodness i know..

It's like "Dude, you may not realize it but..."

I've know the Bartender for awhile, it's just..ugh...

earlier today I biked about town and had a bunch of note cards, all handwritten, and was merely trying to organize the things b/c I was trying to see where the notes were leading

IMO, if one reads a good book you take notes so you don't forget

Taking a pee and a random dude was like

"So what are you studying for?"

"Uhm nothing just trying to increase my knowledge"

Just wanna be left alone in that way, but..nope..

W/is why..how do I stop from scaring people?

How do I stop people from just projecting things on me? This is a real sore point, I'm like canvas that everyone just throws paint on

Single..must be gay
Studies..must be in college

posted March 08, 2013 05:52 AM            

Fear at first sight lol. There could be something in your chart that triggers fear in them. Like I feel uneasy around people whose Saturn square/oppose my Chiron. And yeah, not everyone is comfortable around people with Scorpio/ pluto intensity.

posted March 08, 2013 07:01 AM            

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Originally posted by Padre35:

I bike commute, in extreme weather.

I have various Scorpio and Pluto placements,

Went out earlier today, had a nice time. Went out late late, think 12:50ish..on a bike, when it is 23 degrees or so.

Popped into my favorite local uptown bar completey toned down...think glasses, 3 sweaters, gray trench coat

Just peddled 3 miles uphill and had to do it in 20 minutes..Showed up and it was..weird

-Bartender told me "You are Dark Man, you just show up"

-Younger woman literally stepped and said "You are creepy"

Prior to all of that..had not said a word to her (she was far far to young)

BUT it just seems like I scare people who do not know me.

Is it Scorpio intensity? Pluto?

Literally do not know..I pride myself on being an understated Gentleman...and yet.

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I can feel it here. You have deep things about yourself you won't look at. You think you can push them away and put on a "sunny face". It doesn't work that way. It translates to "creepy" by others

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posted March 08, 2013 07:04 AM            

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posted March 08, 2013 08:40 AM            

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Originally posted by Yin:
Move up North. Seriously. A lot of individualists up here. You'll fit right in.

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I agree. I am a Pluto heavy person and I get similar reactions. People generally don't approach me though, so I don't get people telling me I am intimidating or scary. It's only later after having conversations with friends, that I find out most of them were surprised to discover I am a lighthearted, and generally un-spookie person. I have learned to identify the feeling in strangers, it's a slight recoil or a stare for slightly too long.

Part of it has to do with your inherent energy, part has to do with other people's issues, and as Ami suggested, part could have to do with hiding or suppressing things which may require your attention. Pluto Doesn't show up without warning, it progressively intensifies as we draw closer. The scary vibe is a natural warning "here be dragons" (even if your dragons are something as simple as insecurity or a fear of being misunderstood).

The inherent energy part should be embraced. Some people on this earth are just freaking pretty, wherever they go, whatever they do, everyone just sees "pretty". It's part of how their energy challenges/inspires people. Some of us have controversial, transforming, and unsettling natural energies. Without us the world would go into catatonic shock at the first sight of anything contrary to the social norm. For this I agree that the best resolution is to embrace your natural beauty and migrate where people are more open to it.

Regarding other people's projections, until you beef up on those mind control abilities, you're screwed. People are free to find us creepy, annoying, ugly, stupid, etc.. The big annoyance is that we are effected when the problem is ultimately theirs to fix. How they see you, is based on how they see the part of their self you remind them of. If they have a poor relationship with the part of their self which seeks knowledge, enjoys introspection, and wears thick glasses, then what real control can you have over that? I suspect the healthiest path would be to be the best you possible, that way you have the opportunity to influence the way they see their self toward a more positive light.

As for the issues, we all have them and especially when Pluto is involved, they require a lot of time and observation to resolve. I have my own cold pricklys and I have spent a lot of time identifying and understanding them. There are still plenty more to uncover. Some spiritual schools believe what we take in through the senses influences the "self" we build. If you are reading, watching, listening to, eating, or surrounding your self with dark/unhealthy objects, it could feed your situation. Perhaps making a point to take in uplifting and healthy sensory input can help to positively influence what you project.

Pluto is nothing you can shake off or unlearn. I promise though, the more you get to know Pluto, the less dark/creepy you will seem to others.

posted March 08, 2013 10:13 AM            

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Originally posted by Ami Anne:

I can feel it here. You have deep things about yourself you won't look at. You think you can push them away and put on a "sunny face". It doesn't work that way. It translates to "creepy" by others

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posted March 08, 2013 10:23 AM            

I hate to think what respectable black men go through.

I can't even get a flipping cup of coffee where I live without being examined under a microscope.

And no, I didn't kidnap that kid. He's my son. I know he looks Italian, but he's my kid. And no, I don't have a gun. Or a nunchuck because my name isn't Bruce Lee.

posted March 08, 2013 11:00 AM            

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Originally posted by Ami Anne:

I can feel it here. You have deep things about yourself you won't look at. You think you can push them away and put on a "sunny face". It doesn't work that way. It translates to "creepy" by others

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Eh, I don't think I'm capable of a sunny face AA, do have a Moon squaring Mars in Scorpio BUT, rarely do I ever go volcano.

Do believe in the Buddhist and Christian precept of letting anger go as quickly as possible.

posted March 08, 2013 11:14 AM            

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Originally posted by Xiiro:
I agree. I am a Pluto heavy person and I get similar reactions. People generally don't approach me though, so I don't get people telling me I am intimidating or scary. It's only later after having conversations with friends, that I find out most of them were surprised to discover I am a lighthearted, and generally un-spookie person. I have learned to identify the feeling in strangers, it's a slight recoil or a stare for slightly too long.

Part of it has to do with your inherent energy, part has to do with other people's issues, and as Ami suggested, part could have to do with hiding or suppressing things which may require your attention. Pluto Doesn't show up without warning, it progressively intensifies as we draw closer. The scary vibe is a natural warning "here be dragons" (even if your dragons are something as simple as insecurity or a fear of being misunderstood).

The inherent energy part should be embraced. Some people on this earth are just freaking pretty, wherever they go, whatever they do, everyone just sees "pretty". It's part of how their energy challenges/inspires people. Some of us have controversial, transforming, and unsettling natural energies. Without us the world would go into catatonic shock at the first sight of anything contrary to the social norm. For this I agree that the best resolution is to embrace your natural beauty and migrate where people are more open to it.

Regarding other people's projections, until you beef up on those mind control abilities, you're screwed. People are free to find us creepy, annoying, ugly, stupid, etc.. The big annoyance is that we are effected when the problem is ultimately theirs to fix. How they see you, is based on how they see the part of their self you remind them of. If they have a poor relationship with the part of their self which seeks knowledge, enjoys introspection, and wears thick glasses, then what real control can you have over that? I suspect the healthiest path would be to be the best you possible, that way you have the opportunity to influence the way they see their self toward a more positive light.

As for the issues, we all have them and especially when Pluto is involved, they require a lot of time and observation to resolve. I have my own cold pricklys and I have spent a lot of time identifying and understanding them. There are still plenty more to uncover. Some spiritual schools believe what we take in through the senses influences the "self" we build. If you are reading, watching, listening to, eating, or surrounding your self with dark/unhealthy objects, it could feed your situation. Perhaps making a point to take in uplifting and healthy sensory input can help to positively influence what you project.

Pluto is nothing you can shake off or unlearn. I promise though, the more you get to know Pluto, the less dark/creepy you will seem to others.

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The projection portion is so true, for whatever reason people just feel free to paint me as a canvas with whatever they their issues are, that is rather annoying.

posted March 08, 2013 11:17 AM            

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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
If you feel uncomfortable with what I said and don't want it here, I will remove it! Let me know.

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I asked a question, an open question, that means one wants responses, one does not get to choose what responses one receives.

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Get into fashion.

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Hmm, as in design? I ask b/c generally I'm very fashionable down to winter tone etc.

posted March 08, 2013 11:21 AM            

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Originally posted by 12muddy:
About people projecting things on you, well I know it can get annoying but the problem lies with those people, not you. So I can’t see how you can stop it.

Fear at first sight lol. There could be something in your chart that triggers fear in them. Like I feel uneasy around people whose Saturn square/oppose my Chiron. And yeah, not everyone is comfortable around people with Scorpio/ pluto intensity.

You can try wearing bright colours and grinning to show them that you’re friendly and mean no harm hehe.

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Well, fear and attraction are not as disrelated as people would think at first glance.

I do laugh and grin and cut up, rather personable actually.

Laugh, laugh now!!!!!

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posted March 08, 2013 05:29 PM            

What do you mean?

It looks like, just being objective, I have this huge blind spot when it comes to some things and would appreciate some feedback.

Just keep in mind though, I really value my independence..for me that is just not negotiable.

posted March 08, 2013 05:52 PM            

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Originally posted by Padre35:

Ami Anne, I ask d this sincerely (and do not mind if it is ugly):

What do you mean?

It looks like, just being objective, I have this huge blind spot when it comes to some things and would appreciate some feedback.

Just keep in mind though, I really value my independence..for me that is just not negotiable.

I demand that of myself, my partners and my friends.

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What is your question, Padre? Did you want me to elaborate?

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posted March 08, 2013 05:54 PM            

It's just that I'd like to have some insight as this is a pattern.

I scare people, I know it, can have the best intentions in the world, but just have heard to many honest people tell me the same thing:

posted March 08, 2013 06:14 PM            

Astrologically, see what your Hekate does, as this is our shadow side. If yours is all bound up, that may be where the problem lies. I will be happy to help you, in any way I can. I certainly need help with my issues!

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posted March 08, 2013 06:30 PM            

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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
Ok This is what I feel and I have had many, many interactions with you. I feel you do not want to face your dark side. You would rather be a "gentleman". This is exactly the kind of person who seems creepy because creepy is basically hidden.

Astrologically, see what your Hekate does, as this is our shadow side. If yours is all bound up, that may be where the problem lies. I will be happy to help you, in any way I can. I certainly need help with my issues!

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Thanks young lady!

((hug))

Someone mention the harness the power to control minds ( or opinions), I did that once, basically sold my soul for a Gemini friend.

Worked well, at the time, never again shall I do such a thing..as in not once, and can spot such manipulations from a mile away.

Basically, I know my darkside too well, what I'm looking for is the good in me.

Always have looked for it, I do not joke when I say it seems the Universe WANTS me to be the villian, people expect me to be the villian, the "wow they really did it" person.

The "this guy is just extreme, he does things that no one else does!"

(misread, everyone could do it, few choose to suffer it)

posted March 08, 2013 06:31 PM            

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posted March 08, 2013 06:41 PM            

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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
If your life with woman is not where you want it, this would be a big part of the reason, too imo

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Eh, not to worried about that AA, have a fair amount of female attraction, which is enough for me.

People talk about Scorpio placements being into sex, there is a truism to it, however for a Scorpio Venus/Mars/Jupiter..we actually have to LIKE them.

So if I'm not feeling it..I'm not worried about it..which is very counter cultural.

the genesis of all of this, and did not bring it up b/c it seemed low class:

The young woman's friend, the woman who called me creepy, literally stood up on a bar stool and..uhm..showed her butt.

Have to admit..it was a nice ass.

When I commented to the bartender that this past summer a (very attractive mind you) red haired young woman literally had her..well..***** out b/c she propositioned a guy that she would show her chest for a drink and he countered with "no, want to see your.." she obliged

anywho, since I did not go drewling thusly.."this guy did not do what I expected them to do...he's creepy..."

Excuse me for being raw AA, this is what happened, not the first time.

posted March 08, 2013 06:52 PM            

Anyway, I have done a fair amount of thought on creepy and it is always being hidden. Like a woman who acts all nice, when she has tons of hidden rage or she acts all perfect when she is really nasty. This comes off as creepy.

In men hidden dark or sexual impulses is, usually, what comes across as creepy.

Check your Hekate asteroid and tell me what it does.

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posted March 08, 2013 06:55 PM            

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Originally posted by Padre35:
Hmm, as in design? I ask b/c generally I'm very fashionable down to winter tone etc.

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posted March 08, 2013 07:00 PM            

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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
I don't get it. You have to explain better or just forget it lol

Anyway, I have done a fair amount of thought on creepy and it is always being hidden. Like a woman who acts all nice, when she has tons of hidden rage or she acts all perfect when she is really nasty. This comes off as creepy.

In men hidden dark or sexual impulses is, usually, what comes across as creepy.

Check your Hekate asteroid and tell me what it does.

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Eh not in my natal reading (chart?)

I do suspect if one with holds sex it comes across as just weird, after all men are supposed to just go for sex at all times.

Wonder if when I don't just want sex (oddly out of respect for the woman) when she is subtley trying to throw it to me it causes confusion.