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FireMoon
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posted April 09, 2013 01:52 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for FireMoon     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
How many times in your life have you been really, truly in love? (everyone's definitions of this are different, but I mean according to YOUR definition) And what did that entail for you?

For me I think it's been only once. Don't know if it will ever happen again

Just feeling a bit sentimental so don't mind the mushy topic lol

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aquaguy91
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posted April 09, 2013 02:03 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for aquaguy91     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Just once. At the time She was the only girl that existed in my world. and after things ended , i was really depressed for a year. I still think about her sometimes and its been 3 years.

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12muddy
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posted April 09, 2013 06:00 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for 12muddy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I think I’m truly in love. I’ve become a better person for him. I accept his flaws and think some of those flaws are adorable. I admire him. I want to make him happy, want to soothe his pains. I believe that he's worth all the heartach and the tears. I respect his way of thinking, his choices in life, although I don’t agree with him sometimes. We love our differences and similarities.

When I look into his eyes I’m a goner.


A few lines from Pablo Neruda:

I love you straightforwardly, without complexities or pride;
so I love you because I know no other way

than this: where I does not exist, nor you,
so close that your hand on my chest is my hand,
so close that your eyes close as I fall asleep.

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Faith
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posted April 09, 2013 08:42 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by aquaguy91:
Just once. At the time She was the only girl that existed in my world. and after things ended , i was really depressed for a year. I still think about her sometimes and its been 3 years.

Sorry for being nosey but is here any chance you can remind us why you haven't tried contacting her again? Obviously she is very special to you.

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Faith
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posted April 09, 2013 08:49 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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T
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posted April 10, 2013 12:11 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for T     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by FireMoon:
How many times in your life have you been really, truly in love?

This was an interesting question for me because I just realized just how many times I have actually been in love. As far as I can count...probably over a dozen! Hadnt realized how easily or how many times I've fallen in love before. And yes, true love. I really loved the person. I've dated others or been involved in relationships in which I never fell in love and it quickly dissolved.

Most of them now are remembered as people I truly loved once and I don't feel a twinge of emotion for them anymore except for fond memories....and some not so fond ones.

Only one person really sticks and I still think fondly of (my Taurus ex). I am definitely not still in love with him though. It was a time and a place and great for both of us at that time in our lives. Not that I don't about the others (okay well I don't really. or at least not often) , but they seem like more ... "learning experiences" now from this distant veiwpoint in time, not to say I did not love them at the time, but sentimiental feelings are not there anymore. Young love and adult love are two very different ballgames.

Tee-ball prepares you for the big leagues.

I'm surprised at how many times I've been in love. But with a Gemini Venus, maybe I shouldnt be.

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somethingexcellent
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posted April 10, 2013 12:23 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for somethingexcellent     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Maybe twice...

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T
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posted April 10, 2013 02:05 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for T     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Anything is possible.

Not likely though and I could definitely die happy with what i've had thus far, but I'll always stay open to it......

maybe when I'm older. .....someone to travel and laugh with.

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T
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posted April 10, 2013 02:10 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for T     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by somethingexcellent:
Maybe twice...

I just realized you were replying to the question. LOL

Glad I took it as a message to me though. Perhaps you will be right

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somethingexcellent
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posted April 10, 2013 02:10 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for somethingexcellent     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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T: .....someone to travel and laugh with.

Love the Leo Mars.

Are ours conjunct, by the way? Mine's at 18 degrees!!!!

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T
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posted April 10, 2013 02:28 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for T     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
(yes, mine's at 15*)

We shall hold hands when we go through our Mars Returns then! Yes?

Our Mars' can traverse the zodiac wheel together.

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PixieJane
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posted April 10, 2013 03:56 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for PixieJane     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I've thought about this and I'd say I've loved 5 people (2 men, 3 women) with a feeling of happiness & support as I do close friends & favorite relatives along with an especially deep intimacy & passion, but I was only IN LOVE with 2 of them (both women).

IN LOVE is different as it had the added elements of feeling intertwined in such a way that they didn't just make my life better by being in it but being a core part of my life...so HARD to explain because this defines my BFF and others, too!...but it's like this person was part of me and I imagined growing old and dying with her rather than just enjoying the day (that is, with those I loved I enjoyed the ride, but those I'm IN LOVE with I actually think long term and try some steering, that is I treated those I loved as a pleasant day at the beach while those I'm IN LOVE with as a lifelong endeavor). When I broke up with one it was like losing a limb (whereas the others that I loved but wasn't IN love with were more of a growing pain and I remain good friends with one, still supportive in many ways, and I remember them all fondly with no regrets at our relationship and it ending). Losing her left me literally numb for days before I started freaking out over it, and though I'm air sign enough to remain lucid and not let my emotions rule me or spur me on to do something stupid or desperate I still feel and endure them and I'm not immune from the pain just because I don't let the pain dictate my actions.

Another difference is those I loved were very pleasant additions to my life where those I was IN LOVE with transformed me as a person, making me different than how I was (and I mean permanent, at least in some cases). Both have left their mark on me as surely as Granny and my 'rents. Before I can explain I must share that my 2 true loves were very different. One was an "Aries deluxe" and very physical & masculine (to the point I teased her over it) while the other very intellectual and feminine (in the academic way).

In the case of Aries Deluxe I learned to let go a bit rather than keep to my extreme independence and also become more feminine. At first I became more feminine as that was what she wanted but I found I enjoyed exploring that part of myself and as I did my life improved because people started treating me more like an adult and I got more business (and interesting enough the men that had been harassing me until then stopped but different types of men took up the slack), and that taught me that being feminine didn't mean I had to be submissive or vulnerable, and done right it could even be empowering. We came from such radically different backgrounds (though oddly similar in many ways that gave me insight into the human condition) with different styles and she taught me to be more thick skinned and not over think things all the time while I taught her more patience and flexibility. We surprised each other a lot, and even when it was a bit of a shock or embarrassing we still loved it. Even the conflict turned out to be stimulating (once I got used to it).

In the case of the Sag academic (where I eased up on the feminine front a bit without returning wholly to my previously androgynous tomboy ways) I found the relationship more refined in many ways if less intense in others. As someone who studied very different parts of history and with plenty of experience as a school (both middle & high) teacher she gave me a different take on both subjects that I found interesting and we made each other more well-rounded for it and with our own insights that we might not have ever gained without each other. We challenged each other on other fronts as well, from our very different take on politics to cartoons, and grew from it. And she introduced me to classic movies and I introduced her to Buffy (and bemused her explaining Buffy studies) and The L Word, she taught me tennis and I taught her racquetball, I showed her that you don't need the system and she's showed me the system can be very useful for those who know how to play the game, and we both grudgingly admire each other. She once told me that she knew she could spend the rest of her life with me after I presented a view she'd never even considered on a thesis (of a work by an Ancient Greek philosopher I'd never even heard of until she introduced me to his work about a week earlier) she'd done in college. And unlike my previous loves (including the Aries deluxe) she's even domesticated me somewhat (or maybe I'm just getting older) while she in turn has learned to depend on me without feeling imprisoned by it (a new feeling for her). Whereas my relationship with the Aries deluxe was wildly passionate & intense, this one is one I'm very content & pleased with, and just so as there's no question there is NO WAY I'd ever return to the Aries deluxe, I like where I'm at right now.

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somethingexcellent
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posted April 10, 2013 04:29 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for somethingexcellent     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
^You went from talking in past tense to present tense...are you still with SagAdemic?

T; yes, we can walk through each sign - from the warm, white sand jungle beach of Leo and back again.

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PixieJane
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posted April 10, 2013 04:37 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for PixieJane     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by somethingexcellent:
are you still with SagAdemic?

Yes.

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NativelyJoan
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posted April 11, 2013 01:26 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by FireMoon:
How many times in your life have you been really, truly in love? (everyone's definitions of this are different, but I mean according to YOUR definition) And what did that entail for you?

For me I think it's been only once. Don't know if it will ever happen again

Just feeling a bit sentimental so don't mind the mushy topic lol


I've been "in love" twice, but I experienced different kinds of it. Once was intense and passionate and the other was light and peaceful. The first experience was very powerful and special but very emotional. It started when I was very young and lasted almost 11 years. It entailed being completely consumed by feelings of joy, passion, misery, devotion and a bit of obsession. And there was no peace. I somewhat hated myself during this time period because I felt like I was completely being controlled by my emotions and desires. It was either blissful or miserable. It ended amicably though. As I've grown, I've realized that a love affair of that caliber just doesn't work for me nor does it suit my unconventional tastes. I learned a great deal from the experience though. I really did grow as a person and in a sense "wake up" to what really matters to me in life.

A couple years ago I met someone and this was my truly peaceful experience. We had very similar energies, almost identical. When we were together we shared a bond that can only be described as profoundly peaceful. Lay out under the sun in a field of lilies peaceful. This was stardust. It wasn't intensely passionate or ecstatic but it was profound. It was the kind of bond where energy flows right through you easily and calmly. It was not the mainstream version of true love, we didn't feel obligated to each other nor did we expect anything. We weren't going to change our lives for each other, or build a whole new one. We were just content in our peace with one another. It was quite an experience. I'd honestly forgo passion and fireworks any day for that kind of peaceful bond.

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Haplesschild*
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posted April 12, 2013 09:28 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Haplesschild*     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It's happened twice. I loved them dearly and both taught me so much and changed me in big ways.

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Padre35
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posted April 12, 2013 12:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Padre35     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

When I fall in love, it tends to be really deep and really intense to the point it becomes unhealthy for us both.

Scorpio is a cruel thing when it comes to j'amore

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Doux Rêve
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posted April 13, 2013 03:34 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Doux Rêve     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I don't really know what "true love" is - between people. I can feel it intensely when I meditate or pray, and it's something that englobes everything and everyone.

But when it comes to actual people and relationships.. I'm not sure.
I've been in love several times, for sure. But is that true love? Or is it just a chemical/physical reaction?

In the heat of the moment, it always seems to be genuine and true. But as the feelings fade and the connection is lost, what is left? Was it love? Can love end?

Maybe I take this way too seriously!
Love is a mystery.

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Blackbird
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posted May 07, 2013 05:57 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Blackbird     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by FireMoon:
How many times in your life have you been really, truly in love?

Zero. 0/2.

I will turn 30 this year. I wonder if it will ever happen. Because I don't get out much... I doubt it.


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florence
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posted May 09, 2013 08:15 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for florence     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
once and even then i had to check myself as i wasn't sure it was lust. the one thing that allowed me to make the distinction was that when i was in fear of my life i didn't feel anyone else but him could protect me, not even my father. he was the only person i could go on auto-pilot with. i've had that simulated experience since, like believing someone is so smart and all the other traits that they could outwit anyone else but i didn't feel it consistently.



a strange measuring stick granted but how i knew instinctually.

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7thGuardian
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posted May 29, 2013 04:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 7thGuardian     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
At first, I didn't want to talk about it... but i did in this topic: http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum27/HTML/001240.html so...

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Originally posted by 7thGuardian:
That type of love it's called Eros - and it truly is a form of love not just sex as some would like to put it. Others people fall in love under different types - and never feel this type of love. Though it's true - that it's not enough for a long term relationship - as the others types are more important in terms of defining true love...

For some people it starts with Storge (affection beaten friends - that's similar to familial affection) followed by Eros (erotic love) - for others is the opposite... which can evolve in Philia (a real friendship between both parties) and lastly - it evolves in Agape (unconditional love).

True Love (the kind that involved agape) is rare and more than often is one sided... where only party is whiling to give its all for the other... It's not necessary to be mutual, Philia and Eros are usually enough for a long term relationship... though - it would be nice to be that lucky... it's probably what most with Sun in 7'th house are looking for, then again - who wouldn't want that.



...one way to put it.

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