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Aquacheeka
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posted June 27, 2013 09:32 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aquacheeka     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Forgot to mention, if you leave the useless slob because you realize you're better off on your own, you're screwed financially: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/1556706/Women-worse-off-after-divorce.html.

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I'm so cappy
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posted June 27, 2013 09:32 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for I'm so cappy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I hate wedding parties. At least those in my country.

Aqua, I admire your devotion to the cause

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I'm sooo happy! I mean, cappy.

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mockingbird
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posted June 27, 2013 12:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mockingbird     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by I'm so cappy:




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If I've included this sig, it's because I'm posting from a mobile device.
Please excuse all outrageous typos and confusing auto-corrects.

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YoursTrulyAlways
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posted June 27, 2013 05:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for YoursTrulyAlways     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I must say that I'm puzzled. But oh well.

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Aquacheeka
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posted June 27, 2013 06:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aquacheeka     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by YoursTrulyAlways:
I must say that I'm puzzled. But oh well.

What's puzzling about it? Gray divorce is on the rise: http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/06/12/us-usa-divorce-gray-idUSBRE95B11T20130612.

A person's odds of staying married are only slightly better than their odds of getting divorced. If you're childfree like I am, it seems pointless to get married when it's probably going to end badly and when you're going through the heartache you'll also have to deal with the paperwork.

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YoursTrulyAlways
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posted June 27, 2013 06:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for YoursTrulyAlways     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Why would you enter into anything with the expectation that it will end badly? Doesn't it become a self fulfilling prophecy?

F the probability and odds. Quitting is for losers and divorce is for chumps. I'm a F-ing winner and I MFFTW and I succeed at relationships.

I sign up for anything to win. I take an exam to score 100 and nothing less. I expect to be top in class and top in school, and nothing less. similarly, i enter into a relationship to succeed.

Don't marry a pr1ck and/or a b1tch. Half the battle won.

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MoonWitch
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posted June 27, 2013 07:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MoonWitch     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm happily married but I did feel like I never wanted to get married again after my last divorce so I kind of understand.

I'm of the mind if people don't want to get married then cool. If people do want to get married then cool. Why put down one or the other life choice? There are really good reasons for some to get married. There are really good reasons for others to not get married.

*shrug*

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Aquacheeka
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posted June 27, 2013 10:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aquacheeka     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yes, MoonWitch, there are people who want to get married and have their reasons for doing so. This thread is about women who don't and the reasons why.

Stay on-topic or if one doesn't like the topic, they can always skip to the next. People who complain about topics as their only contribution to a conversation = personal pet peeve of mine.

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Aquacheeka
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posted June 27, 2013 10:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aquacheeka     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by YoursTrulyAlways:
Why would you enter into anything with the expectation that it will end badly? Doesn't it become a self fulfilling prophecy?

F the probability and odds. Quitting is for losers and divorce is for chumps. I'm a F-ing winner and I MFFTW and I succeed at relationships.

I sign up for anything to win. I take an exam to score 100 and nothing less. I expect to be top in class and top in school, and nothing less. similarly, i enter into a relationship to succeed.

Don't marry a pr1ck and/or a b1tch. Half the battle won.



You make it sound so easy . What if you marry a nice person, and then that person changes?
Don't tell me that none of your affluent friends have traded in their wives for younger models. And let's not even mention the high-priced escorts.

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MoonWitch
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posted June 28, 2013 10:01 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for MoonWitch     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I don't need a lecture. I wasn't complaining about the topic. I was giving my opinion that many life choices are valid for people - including what you are currently feeling. If you don't like it you can take your own advice.

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Aquacheeka
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posted June 28, 2013 12:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aquacheeka     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well, fair enough, then.

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MoonWitch
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posted June 28, 2013 01:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MoonWitch     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I was thinking about this on my way to work this morning. My apologies for being such a crank earlier! It really wasn't my intention to criticize or seem like I didn't like the thread so I got a little defensive.

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YoursTrulyAlways
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posted June 28, 2013 04:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for YoursTrulyAlways     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Aquacheeka:

You make it sound so easy . What if you marry a nice person, and then that person changes?
Don't tell me that none of your affluent friends have traded in their wives for younger models. And let's not even mention the high-priced escorts.

Well, there is luck of the draw. I grant you that. People change for sure, or don't show their true colors. But that is what due diligence is all about. Do the due diligence upfront and not be caught up with the thrill of romance or the excitement of initial lust. Yes, easier said than done. But you can do it if you tell yourself that you will succeed.

Yes, I know affluent people who trade in their wives for a newer model. They are not my friends. As you can tell, I maintain super high standards for everything, including friends. I drop people like hotcakes when there is a moral issue, never mind the reputational impact. I answer to a higher moral authority.

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Aquacheeka
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posted June 28, 2013 10:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aquacheeka     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by YoursTrulyAlways:
Well, there is luck of the draw. I grant you that. People change for sure, or don't show their true colors. But that is what due diligence is all about. Do the due diligence upfront and not be caught up with the thrill of romance or the excitement of initial lust. Yes, easier said than done. But you can do it if you tell yourself that you will succeed.

Yes, I know affluent people who trade in their wives for a newer model. They are not my friends. As you can tell, I maintain super high standards for everything, including friends. I drop people like hotcakes when there is a moral issue, never mind the reputational impact. I answer to a higher moral authority.


God, I love Capricorn men.

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aquaguy91
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posted June 29, 2013 12:37 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for aquaguy91     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Aquacheeka:
The truth is that marriage just sucks for women.

Our pay goes down: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-2296375/Wome n-wait-thirties-married-earn-money-men-wed-YOUNGER-successful.html

We gain weight: http://www.nbcnews.com/id/44226744/ns/health-behavior/ t/women-gain-weight-after-marriage-men-after-divorce/#.Ucw4QjusjTo

and the men, comfortable and secure now that they've "put a ring on it" start doing less housework!: http://webcenters.netscape.compuserve.com/love/package.jsp?name=fte/boyfriend/boyfriend

No wonder we are less happy being married than men and less likely to want to do it again: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/vicki-larson/his-hers-marriage_b_3129269.html

Women have been sold a pack of lies: that we need to have this big party in our names in order to be "special," "chosen," "fulfilled"...


The truth is, if you're not having kids, as a woman you should practically be allergic to marriage.



Just when I think I have seen the worst of the feminist propoganda I see something that blows the rest out of the water..

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posted June 29, 2013 12:38 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for aquaguy91     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Aquacheeka:
The truth is that marriage just sucks for women.

Our pay goes down: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-2296375/Wome n-wait-thirties-married-earn-money-men-wed-YOUNGER-successful.html

We gain weight: http://www.nbcnews.com/id/44226744/ns/health-behavior/ t/women-gain-weight-after-marriage-men-after-divorce/#.Ucw4QjusjTo

and the men, comfortable and secure now that they've "put a ring on it" start doing less housework!: http://webcenters.netscape.compuserve.com/love/package.jsp?name=fte/boyfriend/boyfriend

No wonder we are less happy being married than men and less likely to want to do it again: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/vicki-larson/his-hers-marriage_b_3129269.html

Women have been sold a pack of lies: that we need to have this big party in our names in order to be "special," "chosen," "fulfilled"...


The truth is, if you're not having kids, as a woman you should practically be allergic to marriage.



Just when I think I have seen the worst of the feminist propoganda I see something that blows the rest out of the water..

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aquaguy91
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posted June 29, 2013 12:54 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for aquaguy91     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The American court system has given women the power to completely dominate marriage and home life if they choose to do so. It's the woman's way or the highway and if the man (husband) doesn't bend to her every whim she divorces him and in many cases takes everything he has. Now the feminists are trying to brainwash women into believing they are the victims and get the shortend of the stick in marriage? Wtf.... It's ridiculous enough to say that women in the u.s are oppressed in a general sense but saying women are oppressed when it comes to marriage is way beyond absurd. Women call all the shots in marriage now, so how exactly does marriage suck for them?

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posted June 29, 2013 02:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Geeky     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Aquacheeka:
God, I love Capricorn men.

Me too.

And YTA reminds me so much of my partner, the way he "speaks" on the forum, etc. I bet they have a lot of similar aspects in their natals (I think they are close in age).

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posted June 29, 2013 02:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Geeky     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by mockingbird:
The legal stuff detailed by Pixie, for me, is a good reason to get married to a life partner.

But I'm coming to this as someone who had a $150 ceremony with just my husband and children, carried out by an old hippie couple that ran a bed and breakfast in the mountains.
We were the only people really impacted our marriage, so pooh on everyone else

More power to you if you don't want to, though.
Just be sure to have all your legal t's crossed and i's dotted, though, if you want to build a life with someone without that paper back-up.



Agree.

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Aquacheeka
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posted June 29, 2013 05:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aquacheeka     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by aquaguy91:
The American court system has given women the power to completely dominate marriage and home life if they choose to do so. It's the woman's way or the highway and if the man (husband) doesn't bend to her every whim she divorces him and in many cases takes everything he has. Now the feminists are trying to brainwash women into believing they are the victims and get the shortend of the stick in marriage? Wtf.... It's ridiculous enough to say that women in the u.s are oppressed in a general sense but saying women are oppressed when it comes to marriage is way beyond absurd. Women call all the shots in marriage now, so how exactly does marriage suck for them?

So if women have it so GREAT in marriage what exactly is the problem?

Let the women stop wanting marriage then! Problem solved! lol.

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Aquacheeka
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posted June 29, 2013 05:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aquacheeka     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by aquaguy91:
The American court system has given women the power to completely dominate marriage and home life if they choose to do so. It's the woman's way or the highway and if the man (husband) doesn't bend to her every whim she divorces him and in many cases takes everything he has. Now the feminists are trying to brainwash women into believing they are the victims and get the shortend of the stick in marriage? Wtf.... It's ridiculous enough to say that women in the u.s are oppressed in a general sense but saying women are oppressed when it comes to marriage is way beyond absurd. Women call all the shots in marriage now, so how exactly does marriage suck for them?

Well, married men cheat more than any single macro-level group, which goes a long way to explaining why women walk out more: http://www.nbcnews.com/id/17951664/ns/health-sexual_health/t/ many-cheat-thrill-more-stay-true-love/#.Uc9RpWLvvrw. Let's just start there and work our way down...

How about trying this on for size?: http://www.reuters.com/article/2009/11/12/us-partners-health-idUSTRE5AB0C520091112.

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posted June 29, 2013 05:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aquacheeka     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Then there is this:
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2010/05/100512062631.htm

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cappy1277
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posted June 29, 2013 05:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for cappy1277     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I don't know how old some of the other posters are but I know when I was younger, I felt the same way. The thought of marriage seemed suffocating to me. I've backed out of two engagements because the thought of spending my life with them seemed like the end all be all. Now that I'm in my late 30's, I'm more security minded. Who wouldn't want someone to go half on everything with? Married couples make more money & are more secure in life. Of course, exercise due diligence. You just can't marry anyone. Marry someone you actually like as a person...someone you don't mind around you all the time.

I actually have a venus Aquarius so if my husband and I lived in two separate households, it wouldn't bother me. Actually it might be requisite. 5 days together and two days apart. Lol

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Aquacheeka
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posted June 29, 2013 06:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aquacheeka     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by cappy1277:
I don't know how old some of the other posters are but I know when I was younger, I felt the same way. The thought of marriage seemed suffocating to me. I've backed out of two engagements because the thought of spending my life with them seemed like the end all be all. Now that I'm in my late 30's, I'm more security minded. Who wouldn't want someone to go half on everything with? Married couples make more money & are more secure in life. Of course, exercise due diligence. You just can't marry anyone. Marry someone you actually like as a person...someone you don't mind around you all the time.

I actually have a venus Aquarius so if my husband and I lived in two separate households, it wouldn't bother me. Actually it might be requisite. 5 days together and two days apart. Lol


See, for me, I have no qualms about spending my life with someone, I just don't see why you have to get married to do that.

When you marry men, they get too comfortable and start taking you for granted. This is what causes divorce.

But to be fair, it happens to women, too. I already posted the article about how married women almost immediately start gaining weight.

I think too much security can be a bad thing in some cases.

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posted June 29, 2013 07:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 11nahyt     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
To those who don't want to get married, are y'all by any chance saturn/Capricorn dominant?

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