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Jessica2407
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posted July 06, 2013 10:22 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jessica2407     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I read that you begin to heal when you let go of past hurts,forgive those who have wronged you and learn to forgive yourself for your mistakes.

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Doux Rêve
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posted July 06, 2013 10:46 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Doux Rêve     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
^ I agree with this.

Forgive yourself and others, with your heart.

It will alleviate so much pain.

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posted July 06, 2013 10:47 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Doux Rêve     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Jessica2407:
I checked my progressions. Natal chiron conjuncts pr SN,and pr chiron,pr lilith,sextile pr AC.pr chiron conjuncts natal lilith. do you think it explains things a bit?

I don't think these aspects would make such an impact.

Maybe something with transiting planets.

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Ami Anne
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posted July 06, 2013 10:54 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Jessica2407:
I read that you begin to heal when you let go of past hurts,forgive those who have wronged you and learn to forgive yourself for your mistakes.

This is a long process. Some people will tell you that it is not, but I don't believe them, personally. I think they are lying to themselves, not necessarily you.

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Jessica2407
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posted July 06, 2013 11:01 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jessica2407     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I believe it's a bunch of rhetoric crap that is easily said than done.

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Ami Anne
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posted July 06, 2013 11:20 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Jessica2407:
I believe it's a bunch of rhetoric crap that is easily said than done.

Yep, talk is cheap but it took me a long time to realize that clueless people talk a lot of crap.

The wise people will understand and not condemn you. They will give you a hand up though. There are not too many of them, but a few! xx

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posted July 08, 2013 03:37 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Swift Freeze     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by 7thGuardian:
Swift Freeze - are you a psychologist/therapist? ^^ You put it really well - a detailed response and quite professional, i might add.

This reminds me of the "abandoned child syndrome" - it fits some of what you described above.


I am not a psychologist or therapist. I've just listened and had a lot of people talk to me over the years. I've listened to the things they didn't say too. It is amazing what you can hear if you just listen to someone.

I'm not sure I would be emotionally strong enough if I was to get involved in some sort of therapy occupation, I consider myself highly empathetic and sometimes hyper sensitive.

- Chris

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posted July 08, 2013 07:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 7thGuardian     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Jessica2407:
I read that you begin to heal when you let go of past hurts,forgive those who have wronged you and learn to forgive yourself for your mistakes.

That sounds about right (I'll generalize from here - so, don't take it personal). How difficult or how much time one would need (it's a big change after all - life changing) - that depends on what you're made of, as - we're not all alike. Some are better at running from their problems, some endure them better (this seems like my choice, what felt more comfortable for me), others can block them in their mind... or even two of those scenarios (if not all 3). Which is understandable when we're young - because at that time we have no choice, we can't deal with this type of issues... we're simply not capable enough - we lack experience, understanding, emotional maturity and we're also codependent of adult figures. This process - is part of growing-up (especially in terms of "emotional maturity") - taking responsibility for your issues, your actions - for your life... cause "it's your life (present time)". It really doesn't matter what happened in the past - if "the holocaust had a positive purpose - this would be it: to show us that - it's possible to live a happy life even after being in hell (literally...)"

Now, if you're locked in some basement - being abused daily, as in - something that happens actively (present time) - then you have a real excuse, indeed - in that case you'd need a savior... but if you're the one responsible for your hell, if you're creating your own holocaust with your thoughts - then you have to save yourself. You're the only who can do it (get out of the hell "you're creating - with your negative attitude") - your life is the way it is because of you (you reap what you sow). The process of healing - should start when one can find it in his hearth (so to speak... cause the mind feeds the pain - keeping emotional wounds open - so yeah, basically - you sabotage your life/happiness with your thoughts) to forgive and let go... of the past, of negative attitudes - such as complaining and blaming others, the world, the universe for your unhappiness - which keeps the negativity flow going and going and going - your thoughts being its Duracell battery. It's not that other people or exterior forces can't affect our lives - they can and they do to some extent, but - it's all about how "we choose" to react to what's happening to us. If you chose positivity - you get more positive things in return - but if you chose to wallow in negativity and you place your vital energy in to that... again - you reap what you sow. Same as time - life goes on, it changes constantly and with it - we change as well whether we like it or not (after all - we are alive). "Life promotes change/evolution/growth" - and being a happier individual has a lot to do with that, as in "moving with life's flow" - if you stagnate, if you wait for lost causes - you move against the flow of life, even against the chance for happiness.

There's a saying where "time is suppose to heal all wounds..." and if you really think about it - this saying was probbaly inspired by "physical wounds" - as in "if the conditions are right time heals all wounds." It should go without saying (basic knowledge) that - if you tamper with your wounds, if you keep open them up and even put salt on them... not only that they won't heal with time passing but - they could even get infected and cripple you in some way. Same goes for emotional wounds - if you keep messing with them, things will get worst with time passing - as you'll reach a point where you identify with your wounds and can't imagine life without them (as if the pain it's all you have left). The thing is - we all have our dark moments and i do mean all (nobody's excluded from the living) - and sometimes they can be unbearable... I'm painfully aware that - it can be hard to deal with that type of pain alone, a time - when it's even recommended to ask for help/support - till you can raise your mood and find positivity. But that's not something that happens almost on a daily basis... and definitively not something that persists for long periods of time. Those that constantly engage others in to subjects that revolve around negative emotions - are a form of abusers known as "emotional vampires".

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Originally posted by Swift Freeze:
I am not a psychologist or therapist. I've just listened and had a lot of people talk to me over the years. I've listened to the things they didn't say too. It is amazing what you can hear if you just listen to someone.

I'm not sure I would be emotionally strong enough if I was to get involved in some sort of therapy occupation, I consider myself highly empathetic and sometimes hyper sensitive.

- Chris



I know what you mean. For me it can be draining even answering to a topic - such as the one in question. I'm literally done for the day. Though - meditation, binaural beats and ASMR - helps with recovery.


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Jessica2407
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posted July 09, 2013 03:42 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jessica2407     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you 7th

I appreciate your post immensely,I want you to know that.

It's a very long process indeed.Long,painful but to be free from pain we need to face and acknowledge that it's a part of us,if we keep denying our issues there is no way things will get better.

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Ami Anne
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posted July 09, 2013 08:21 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Jessica2407:
Thank you 7th

I appreciate your post immensely,I want you to know that.

It's a very long process indeed.Long,painful but to be free from pain we need to face and acknowledge that it's a part of us,if we keep denying our issues there is no way things will get better.



Yep. In the chart what conjuncts Hekate is what we want to keep in the shadows. You should check and see what conjuncts your Hekate, Jessica. Let me know.

With Jody Arias, it was interesting that she had Hekate conj the NN. She had so many planetary incidents of not facing herself such as Neptune oppose Venus but the Heakte conj the NN was quite amazing.

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posted July 09, 2013 08:47 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
After I wrote my post I felt better. Something has changed in me recently. Most of you know I am a Born Again Christian/Messianic Jew. I have tried so hard to get good self esteem back. I have tried everything and mostly here, in front of everyone.

I started listening to Bible CD's whenever I can. I used to listen to the radio or do other things. I am starting to feel much better.

For me, I think that if I realize God loves me and know it down deep, I will be able to love myself.

It is working because I feel much better. I am not doing a "religious" post. I am just telling you my experience

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