posted August 07, 2013 05:42 PM            

Yea, she is an awesome driver, she did this and that since she was 14, IF I remeber correctly.

But, is it OK to work it? Do we as human be-ings really know what is going on?

Yea, women can "work" it, and I am quite sure men do too.

posted August 07, 2013 11:51 PM            

I didn't know who Danica Patrick was but I just looked her up on wikipedia and learned she is only 5'2"...not much to work.

I guess I don't understand your question, though. Do you mean, is it okay to branch out from one's original career path into modeling or whatever...or to use looks to further one's career?

My opinion on that is, beauty can go either way, some people use it for success and others destroy themselves with it, so like any other talent or gift, it depends on how the person wields their power.

posted August 08, 2013 08:13 AM            

Of course, sex sells. That goes w/out saying.
You can see that if you look at any commercials such as car ads, toothpaste, clothes anything.

However, I think sexy embodies more than just a great body and pretty face.

I think sexy is someone who is willing to talk about taboos.

Taboos don't need to be kinky taboo sex. In fact, that is easier to talk about than other taboos.

Taboos can be money, anger, passions etc.

Taboos are things that politically correct, fake people will never talk about.

I call this sexy, too, and this sells.

I will do another post in case I lose this.

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posted August 08, 2013 08:19 AM            

These are not sexy people, in terms of looks, obviously.

Take Greta. She is unattractive compared to most female news anchors. Her charisma is in that she is straight talking. That is so rare that it makes it sexy.

Sexy is honesty.

The same goes for Dr Phil. You had all these namby, pamby poltically correct psychologists.

Everyone knew they were fake and talking fake things. Dr Phil came on the scene and called a spade a spade.

He rose to great fame.

The same with judge Judy. Now, she has copy cats with all the judge shows but she was the first.

She wrote the book, "Don't Pee on My Leg and Tell Me it's Raining"

She has bollas and she will say what is on her mind.
That sexy will last longer than the great body and large mammary pecti

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posted August 08, 2013 10:38 AM            

Sexy sells, to the point of absurdity like 2 pd hamburgers being consumed by women in bikinis on beaches.

posted August 08, 2013 11:34 AM            

I guess my original question should have been "should sex sell?"

I will never forget when, years ago, I purchased my first ladder by myself.

On the little cardboard cover thing, there was a pic of a "semi hot" chick walking up the ladder, looking down with a tool belt.

Danika Patrick is absurd, and I have taken alot of flack for stating this.

Yea, she can drive, but she also works it, I think to promote her NASCAR career, and I cant respect that.

Fine, she's an OK looker, and an awesome driver, but I think she cheapens herself by posing for pics, stating she is a "model" TV personality, etc.

She is a NASCAR driver and should remain so.

Will tweek up my question a bit further:

posted August 08, 2013 11:36 AM            

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Originally posted by Padre35:

Dr Phil is a phony AA.

Sexy sells, to the point of absurdity like 2 pd hamburgers being consumed by women in bikinis on beaches.

Mankind's brains are just wired to notice such things.

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Padre, I can't stand him BUT he does talk straight.

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posted August 08, 2013 01:30 PM            

I don't know Danica, she might get on my nerves, too, but I know there is a demand for good looking athletes and I have been part of that demand, back when I watched sports.

posted August 08, 2013 01:35 PM            

It isn't just Danica. The racing organizations themselves want her to "work it." Her NASCAR benchmark sponsor is "Go Daddy," which *requires* her to work it.

There are rumors of her being a Formula One test driver in the future. She was supposed to drive for Honda back in 2008, but Honda withdrew from Formula One. The money in Formula One far surpasses anything in Indy or NASCAR, so there you go: it's about the money. About EUR 1 million for an average driver and about EUR 40 million for a superstar. Danica should command about a EUR 3-5 million base salary at an average back-bencher team, without sponsorship.

Having said that, Danica more than "can drive." She was third at the Indy 500 in 2009. She won Indy Japan. She was a perpetual pole position in the Atlantic Toyota series.

posted August 08, 2013 01:39 PM            

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Originally posted by YoursTrulyAlways:
hippichick,

It isn't just Danica. The racing organizations themselves want her to "work it." Her NASCAR benchmark sponsor is "Go Daddy," which *requires* her to work it.

There are rumors of her being a Formula One test driver in the future. She was supposed to drive for Honda back in 2008, but Honda withdrew from Formula One. The money in Formula One far surpasses anything in Indy or NASCAR, so there you go: it's about the money.

Having said that, Danica more than "can drive." She was third at the Indy 500 in 2009.

This isn't just coming from a man. I'm a fellow amateur racing driver. I don't endorse overly suggestive nonsense, but sex does get attention, and it's all about the dollars.

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agreed, but I cant respect her for selling out..and I am a semi-big NASCAR fan.

I am quite sure NASCAR is all over that, and like I said I way respect her driving abilities, but IF it were me, well, it probably wouldnt be, I would not sell out...but that is me...TOO much of an Aqua in this Pisces!

posted August 08, 2013 01:40 PM            

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Originally posted by Padre35:

Dr Phil is a phony AA.

Sexy sells, to the point of absurdity like 2 pd hamburgers being consumed by women in bikinis on beaches.

Mankind's brains are just wired to notice such things.

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posted August 08, 2013 01:42 PM            

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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
I was thinking of people who rise from relative obscurity and make it big like Dr Phil, Great van Sustern and Judge Judy.

These are not sexy people, in terms of looks, obviously.

Take Greta. She is unattractive compared to most female news anchors. Her charisma is in that she is straight talking. That is so rare that it makes it sexy.

Sexy is honesty.

The same goes for Dr Phil. You had all these namby, pamby poltically correct psychologists.

Everyone knew they were fake and talking fake things. Dr Phil came on the scene and called a spade a spade.

He rose to great fame.

The same with judge Judy. Now, she has copy cats with all the judge shows but she was the first.

She wrote the book, "Don't Pee on My Leg and Tell Me it's Raining"

She has bollas and she will say what is on her mind.
That sexy will last longer than the great body and large mammary pecti

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I used to date a guy who had the unfortunateness (is that a word, ) of meeting up with Dr Phil on a small plane runway...he said he is an a-hole, and everybody at the airport knew it....

posted August 08, 2013 02:40 PM            

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Originally posted by hippichick:
Reminiscent of Danica Patrick.

Yea, she is an awesome driver, she did this and that since she was 14, IF I remeber correctly.

But, is it OK to work it? Do we as human be-ings really know what is going on?

Yea, women can "work" it, and I am quite sure men do too.

Comments?

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posted August 08, 2013 03:21 PM            

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Originally posted by hannaramaa:
Sex does sell, but it goes deeper into gender bias, and the Western culture viewing sex as taboo. Sex wouldn't sell as easily if it were seen and accepted as a natural process equally enjoyed by both male and females. The problem is that sex involves seduction, and when simplified is a power struggle of sorts. The seducer, and the seduced, etc. People crave power, whether subconsciously or not and marketing targets that craving specifically.

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posted August 08, 2013 09:38 PM            

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Originally posted by hannaramaa:
Sex does sell, but it goes deeper into gender bias, and the Western culture viewing sex as taboo. Sex wouldn't sell as easily if it were seen and accepted as a natural process equally enjoyed by both male and females. The problem is that sex involves seduction, and when simplified is a power struggle of sorts. The seducer, and the seduced, etc. People crave power, whether subconsciously or not and marketing targets that craving specifically.

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Not quite so Hannaramaa, even in cultures were sex is not a forbidden subject to speak about sex is still used to market products.

posted August 08, 2013 09:58 PM            

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Originally posted by Ami Anne:

Padre, I can't stand him BUT he does talk straight.

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posted August 08, 2013 10:20 PM            

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Originally posted by Padre35:
Not quite so Hannaramaa, even in cultures were sex is not a forbidden subject to speak about sex is still used to market products.

It has to do with the visual nature of mankind and the fact b/c sex may be plentiful, sex with the top 3% of the food chain..is not.

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Oh, I'm sure. I didn't mean to imply using sex as a marketing strategy was nil in other cultures but I think it has a bigger impact in the United States. I think about how we were founded off pilgrims and Christian values, and some of those core values still very much remain whereas (some) foreign countries seem pretty progressive. It amazes me.

posted August 08, 2013 10:27 PM            

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Originally posted by hannaramaa:
Oh, I'm sure. I didn't mean to imply using sex as a marketing strategy was nil in other cultures but I think it has a bigger impact in the United States. I think about how we were founded off pilgrims and Christian values, and some of those core values still very much remain whereas (some) foreign countries seem pretty progressive. It amazes me.

I can't stand Dr. Phil either. His show is not "him" it's the network and ratings. Humans are not wired to be healed in an hour or some therapy wouldn't be as deep or extensive.

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Think of it this way, think of the young female pop "stars", they got started with a "pure" image, then..oh gosh Britney/Miley/Whomever wound up with nude pics in some capacity being widely distributed.

This is not by accident, their core market has grown up a bit and the bubble gum/unicorn stuff is not what they are willing to purchase any longer.

So out come the "embarrassing" photos, posted far and wide to announce to that core market that they are "maturing" (if that can be said) along with them.

Weras in "progressive" places, such first steps are not required, the market wants just raw, animalistic, sexiness from Day #1.

posted August 08, 2013 11:10 PM            

Generally speaking, women are judged by their looks and their sexiness above all else, by men and women both. Even women who are on the SCOTUS get judged by their looks than their accomplishments. So I understand why many feel they need to "work it" (and may do it without thinking or "going with the flow").

OTOH, I can't help but cringe how far some of them take it.

posted August 08, 2013 11:27 PM            

the men in the videos are still less famous.

also $300 sweatpants