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Jessica2407
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posted August 13, 2013 05:52 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jessica2407     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Barbie's thread got me thinking and ALSO the multiple threads that pop up in PR requesting readings about men who already have a girl friend or who in relationship claiming they show interest to them.

SO tell me what do YOU consider cheating?

Where do you draw the line?

Is it sex?

Is it a dinner date?

Would YOU go out on a dinner date with a guy you know has a gf? if not a dinner date, have a coffee perhaps? so where do you draw the line?

Guys, will you ask a girl who has a bf out on a date?

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lulz
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posted August 13, 2013 06:36 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
sometimes that's just flirting.

yes i would go out on a dinner date with a guy that has a gf! we can go dutch but the food has to be good otherwise he's not getting a 2nd date with me bromantically speaking.

yes i would ask a girl out with a bf. i used to respect that. i don't know y i don't now. i just don't.

kissing someone else wtf. #cheating
going out on a date with other men. #morewtf
being naked with someone in a bathroom but nothing happened. #gtfo

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posted August 13, 2013 06:39 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Barbiegirl19     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Rolflmfao @ lulz you are hilarious friend

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Jessica2407
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posted August 13, 2013 06:52 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jessica2407     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
LOL lulz

You crack me up

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Lunae
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posted August 13, 2013 07:12 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lunae     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
For me, intimacy is the boundary that people committed to another shouldn't cross.

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posted August 13, 2013 07:19 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jessica2407     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Lunae:
For me, intimacy is the boundary that people committed to another shouldn't cross.


what if your guy tells you 'I JUST had coffee with her' How would you react?

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posted August 13, 2013 07:45 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lunae     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Investigate, of course! Stalk his facebook, Scorpio style!

But seriously though, I can't really tell what my reaction to that would be. Never been in a relationship my whole life I think a friendly date won't hurt as long as they know their limits. (I sound naiive, I know )

That's just me though. I know for most people it would be different.

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posted August 13, 2013 07:56 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
my friend is air mars/ venus. he reasons it's unemotional sex. no feelings.

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posted August 13, 2013 09:04 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for mockingbird     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm a Nazi about it (on my end).

Anything (with another person) that I wouldn't do in front of my husband that would sadden or hurt him if he found out is cheating.

I gather that he holds the same standard (but, not being him, I can't speak with authority).

We tend to be really open with each other, even telling one another about people who obviously flirt with or pursue us - not in a confessional way or something, but like, "Dude, when I was at Starbucks this lady *would not leave me alone*. She kept striking up conversation and making eyes at me *mimics flirty look*. I made sure she saw my ring *holds face with hands, ring side out* and everything. THEN she walked out to her car at the same time as me and kept looking over and trying to make eye contact. People are unreal."
[excerpted from an actual convo]

^ That, obviously, is not "cheating"
I also wouldn't remotely count when *others* think that you're flirting. You can't help what others think, and both my husband and I (though actually pretty antisocial) are animated and chatty in public, and many people interpret that as flirtation (or more) when it's just us being us.

Re: Coffee, etc: Nope, I trust him. Coffee's coffee, dinmer can even be "just dinner". When I was working (currently staying home with an army of crazy monkeys that I grew myself), I had plenty of coffees and meals with my overwhelmingly male coworkers and they were just coffees and meals.

He tells me about everything, anyway. I even know a slightly uncomfortable amount about his past relationships. He got upset the first time I (jokingly) called his Saggie Moon "the over sharing Moon" (it's also in the 8th conj Neptune...my 3rd House Aqua Moon sometimes unintentionally roughs him up), but he laughed, too, when I explained it to him.

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posted August 13, 2013 09:06 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Padre35     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

I'm far less likely to hop into a exclusive relationship then I once was, just learned how it all works the extremely hard way.

So this colors my views on cheating, to me it's physical contact that is inappropriate.

Also think the take a buddy of the opposite sex out for lunch or whatever is just something I'd never do, I think there is an underlying thing to it that it is better to not bother with as it ultimately is a WOT.

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posted August 13, 2013 09:28 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Padre35:
Also think the take a buddy of the opposite sex out for lunch or whatever is just something I'd never do, I think there is an underlying thing to it that it is better to not bother with as it ultimately is a WOT.

c'mon bro!

what about a movie? quentin tarrantino does a black james bond starring idris elba. u being a movie buff want to catch first full show! that means around after lunch on a wednesday! only 1 guy responds your director friend that has no shoot on wednesdays! r u gonna be like... idk let's wait for another guy so it doesn't look like a date? or are you eff yeah let's do this!!

it's not a candle lit dinner with french food you have to eat slowly. manly meals! dudes on the quest for the best corned beef sandwich in the city! (but true people go on dates where the best corned beef sandwich in the city lies )

oh oops i didn't read.

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posted August 13, 2013 09:34 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
i can hang with the girls. i've gone out with my gf's friends on nights i've wanted to go out but nobody else was free. just 2 girls. of course they were kind of my friends too but she got them after the divorce.

also i had a drinking partner. a hot sag brunette with giant knockers. she was my director buddy's ex so i somehow never saw her in that light. we could finish a bottle of tequila bet the 2 of us. nobody ever even asked about us from our circle. only say people that saw me picking her up to go out. i dress well. i wear sweaters made of. #boyfriendmaterial

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posted August 13, 2013 09:43 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for asclibrasagsun     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Here is what I consider cheating:

1.) Flirting with someone else on Facebook through comments, extended messages, picture commenting, inside joke commenting borderline relationship business like
saying "Oh where is Gloria tonight?! I miss her so much"
surely you would feel depressed if your significant other posted a status like that about another woman...

2.) Talking to someone wherever across the world they may be for hours on Skype, sharing details of your personal intimate life, emotional cheating, telling them things like "Wow I wish I could see you! You're so amazing! You make me forget blah blah blah!"

3.) Going out with them on coffee or dinner dates alone OR any type of let's go out and see each other in private or even with other friends but without the significant other present

4.) Intimate hugs, caresses, touchy feely business

(Believe me if you're in a committed relationship with someone you love then the thought of hugging another person intimately wouldn't even cross your mind let alone attract you to doing it, it would actually repulse you)


5.) SEX - the obvious factor


Bascially if you love your significant other and are in a conscious relationship with them, then you wouldn't ever even do any of the above things anyway...You just wouldn't want to.

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posted August 13, 2013 09:54 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for YoursTrulyAlways     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My brother-in-law has a porno hobby. He has a room other than his typical man-cave where he goes to town, complete with a full library and dedicated computer with extra storage. Plus a lingere collection that supposedly nobody has worn.

He also likes the chicken wings at Hooters and likes to shoot pool at the neighborhood strip club. Kind of like the old days when guys liked reading Playboy for the articles.

My sister-in-law is at wits end, but the brother-in-law does not see that as cheating.

Another guy I know... not a friend!... frequents young ones and leases them by the hour. He doesn't believe its cheating because he says no emotions are involved in teh act. "Are you really going to allow a f to get in the way of our love?" lol

I give up.

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posted August 13, 2013 10:38 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
If you feel the need to hide it from your significant other, it's cheating.

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posted August 13, 2013 10:39 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Padre35     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by lulz:
c'mon bro!

what about a movie? quentin tarrantino does a black james bond starring idris elba. u being a movie buff want to catch first full show! that means around after lunch on a wednesday! only 1 guy responds your director friend that has no shoot on wednesdays! r u gonna be like... idk let's wait for another guy so it doesn't look like a date? or are you eff yeah let's do this!!

it's not a candle lit dinner with french food you have to eat slowly. manly meals! dudes on the quest for the best corned beef sandwich in the city! (but true people go on dates where the best corned beef sandwich in the city lies )

oh oops i didn't read.


Nope, BTDT, and tbh, if she has a BF then it is his job to do that stuff, not mine.

He can pull BF duty, it's not my job.

You only a few things in this world lulz, your time, your energy and your ideas, why waste any of them?

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posted August 13, 2013 10:45 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Padre35     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by YoursTrulyAlways:
My brother-in-law has a porno hobby. He has a room other than his typical man-cave where he goes to town, complete with a full library and dedicated computer with extra storage. Plus a lingere collection that supposedly nobody has worn.

He also likes the chicken wings at Hooters and likes to shoot pool at the neighborhood strip club. Kind of like the old days when guys liked reading Playboy for the articles.

My sister-in-law is at wits end, but the brother-in-law does not see that as cheating.

Another guy I know... not a friend!... frequents young ones and leases them by the hour. He doesn't believe its cheating because he says no emotions are involved in teh act. "Are you really going to allow a f to get in the way of our love?" lol

I give up.


Those two need to look in the mirror and turn the excuse machine to the "off" position.

My one caveat would be if it was a sexless situation, and even then it would be none of my business and up to them to work it out or find their own solutions.

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posted August 13, 2013 10:47 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
nope no boyfriends at the time. tho i do believe they are married now. i haven't kept in touch but i got an invite to their respective weddings.

i am greedy with my time when it's an errand for someone else but a night out on the town is hardly a chore for me.

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posted August 13, 2013 10:53 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted August 13, 2013 10:57 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Hera     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Randall:
If you feel the need to hide it from your significant other, it's cheating.

This. I didn't mind my exes going out with female friends/coworkers. If they would have hidden this from me and I'd find out (and I always find out - Mercury/Pluto opposition), that would be cheating.

Apparently I am very rigid about staying away from guys who are already involved. Big no-no.

However when I am in a relationship.. while I wouldn't accept coffee or dinner invitations, I might go to some places in my head with other people. I mostly blame it on the boredom and monotony that sets in. But I probably wouldn't think it's okay if I were my partner, either. Not sure I can help with that one, though.

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posted August 13, 2013 10:58 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
avoiding is a good way to not cheat.

i also have a really cute dentist so i know the feeling. actually her dad is my dentist and she's learning the ropes. my gums r afraid of her but what the hell her hair smells so good!

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posted August 13, 2013 11:03 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Padre35     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by lulz:
nope no boyfriends at the time. tho i do believe they are married now. i haven't kept in touch but i got an invite to their respective weddings.

i am greedy with my time when it's an errand for someone else but a night out on the town is hardly a chore for me.


Which means, it would still have been a WOT lulz, clearly it would not have went anywhere, and time in this life is rather short.

INOW, I don't mind having female friends, I won't be put into the friendzone if I'm interested at all in them romantically.

As for daydreaming about others, imo, it is a healthy thing

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posted August 13, 2013 11:18 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
what? no i wasn't interested in them at all. this was before the friendzone term was coined too. it's strange of you to say that. i imagine u bike a lot from your stories. i would have taken a car!
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posted August 13, 2013 11:20 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by lulz:
avoiding is a good way to not cheat.

i also have a really cute dentist so i know the feeling. actually her dad is my dentist and she's learning the ropes. my gums r afraid of her but what the hell her hair smells so good!


Anything to take your mind off the dentist

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