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Topic: How do you handle fake people without going nuclear to their face?
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Jessica2407 Moderator Posts: 3888 From: Saturn Registered: Sep 2012
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posted September 02, 2013 01:46 PM
seriously I need to take notes. Cause I usually don't handle them at all. I tell them to get out of my face. Whatever. Next day they'll smile at me like nothing happened and am like WTF. So how do YOU handle them? IP: Logged |
NickiG Knowflake Posts: 5816 From: Pluto, next to Ami Ann Registered: Jul 2010
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posted September 02, 2013 01:54 PM
I imagine in that situation there isn't much else you can do after you tell them to leave you alone------------------ I once saw a sign that said "sin is death" but if "all deaths are suicide (linda goodman)" and suicide is sin, then shouldnt "death is sin" be more appropriate? when organic is used to describe food then you know we have come to a dark age in history IP: Logged |
Jessica2407 Moderator Posts: 3888 From: Saturn Registered: Sep 2012
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posted September 02, 2013 01:58 PM
No am not asking what I can do, I don't want to DO anything. But people react differently to such circumstances when you feel someone is faking emotions. I want to hear how other people handle it. IP: Logged |
NickiG Knowflake Posts: 5816 From: Pluto, next to Ami Ann Registered: Jul 2010
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posted September 02, 2013 02:21 PM
I'm just like ".......whatever........."------------------ I once saw a sign that said "sin is death" but if "all deaths are suicide (linda goodman)" and suicide is sin, then shouldnt "death is sin" be more appropriate? when organic is used to describe food then you know we have come to a dark age in history IP: Logged |
Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 46517 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010
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posted September 02, 2013 02:25 PM
I have been thinking about this and watching Odette's posts.I think a person who knows who she is and has a solid, comfortable and mature sense of self can deal with fake people better. You can not let them get under your skin because you know that they really are not a threat to you unless YOU see it that way.
------------------ Passion, Lust, Desire. Check out my journal http://www.mychristianpsychic.com/
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Diplopoda Knowflake Posts: 392 From: Registered: Aug 2013
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posted September 02, 2013 02:47 PM
Not everyone is spiritual. Esp in the working world, sometimes you are ****** off with someone but must retain a cordial demeanor. Personally I find it hard to but I've got them done to me. I had no choice but to treat it as a game of charades. Try to put a positive spin on it if you can't exit the situation. If imagine they're pretty unhappy inside so that's the result of their unsresolved inner struggle.IP: Logged |
Zander916 Knowflake Posts: 535 From: Mercury Registered: Aug 2013
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posted September 02, 2013 02:47 PM
It kind of depends on the details of the "friendship". Sometimes I blow up on them, sometimes I'm just fake right back to them. Most of the time I just blow them off. IP: Logged |
NoRainNoRainbows Moderator Posts: 212 From: Registered: Aug 2013
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posted September 02, 2013 02:56 PM
dis moi Jess, que s'est-il passé?I at first say nothing, and then after 3 months of trying to give hints, end up blowing up in their face...but not blow up as in tempter tantrum, but they'll say or do whatever has been bothering me for that whole while and i won't resist a "yeah yeah sure...that is why you etc etc like i won't know you did/said that because...." i usually say that with such an air of 'f**k Off' even if not shouting, that the person doesn't say anything back. but that isn't the right thing to do. either just don't take them seriously at all, or ignore them. IP: Logged |
NoRainNoRainbows Moderator Posts: 212 From: Registered: Aug 2013
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posted September 02, 2013 02:58 PM
but sometimes i have to add...the next day is really just the next day for some people.just be simply be cautious before you know if they are the move at the speed of lightening people, or if they brush it off so they can do it over and over again....took me a long time to tell but now i do...i kind of look at the next day as just that. IP: Logged |
Padre35 Knowflake Posts: 2380 From: Asheville, NC, US Registered: Jul 2012
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posted September 02, 2013 06:33 PM
Confrontation is a skill, society teaches people to have a sort of false politeness when it comes to confrontation. There is a class of people who know this, and take advantage of the falsity. So my approach is to simply point out their inconsistencies, and to ask them why they are doing it and when they intend on stopping. IP: Logged |
PixieJane Moderator Posts: 2861 From: CA Registered: Oct 2010
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posted September 02, 2013 07:36 PM
My definition of fake people (important as I'm sure there will be different definitions here and I don't want anyone to make the mistake I'm talking about the same thing they are): Do anything to look good which includes tearing down others and/or stealing credit for what other people do. Furthermore, they have a strong tendency to treat people as accessories so if someone is useful then they groom them as friends & contacts, but if not (or worse, a liability) they drop them in a heartbeat, often with a metaphoric dagger in the back and malicious gossip.I'm generally good about keeping them out of my life by focusing on the positive and paying them as little mind as I can until they're entangled in the drama of others. One person with more clout than usual who came after me and mine needed to be dissuaded with a lawyer, but at least in his case his failed attempt to ruin us to make himself look better just brought me and mine closer together. My mom is fake, but she's also predictable (at least to me who has been around her for years, and her Leo and Gemini aspects made her brag about her tricks to me more than once while she was drunk which also helped). I deal with her very cautiously...nevertheless, I recognize some very bad things that happened to her that made her that way and I grudgingly feel some sympathy and pity (which would infuriate her if she knew) for her. I sometimes wonder if she ever gave up the alcohol she self-medicates with if the scorpio gone bad might somehow transform from a gray lizard to a phoenix, but I don't dare let myself hope for it. When I was younger and still learning I went into business for awhile using my washing machines to wash clothes for people (until I realized all the hot water I was using ate up all my profits). One mother slipped in a badly ripped shirt and I recall wondering if she was going to make cleaning rags out of it after it was washed as I couldn't imagine anyone wearing it, but when she picked her clothes up that time she (for the first time) searched until she found it and pulled it out claiming I ripped it and refused to pay me anything and pretended I was lying about it already being ripped. Later she came back to give me "another chance" and I bluntly refused, and when she asked why I reminded her of the shirt with Sag bluntness and Libra detachment and a calm, "We have a saying in Texas: first time shame on you, second time shame on me." She had a melt down but left after a major tantrum (and seeing I wasn't impressed) and tried a major gossip campaign against me. Luckily my reputation was good enough and hers bad enough (many had been burned by her before) that I weathered it well. However, I realized I probably wouldn't keep weathering things like that so in the future I wasn't blunt I simply either made my excuses (something like, "I've got way too much on my plate right now to take that job" which is technically true if you add, "to put up with your crap") and/or gave a price so high they wouldn't take it (or if they did then I might actually do it, but pay in advance!). That's been good about getting rid of a lot of the unnecessary drama that tried to become part of my life. IP: Logged |
Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 46517 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010
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posted September 02, 2013 07:43 PM
If I feel any weird vibe from anyone, I won't accept them as a client. I have people who don't have any overt weird vibe but I just have a feeling they are going to drive me crazy in the way that the woman with the ripped shirt did. I just tell them I have a strange feeling about accepting them as a client. I, usually, will offer something free like a brief look at their chart, just as a good will gesture, but I won't accept them as clients for any price because someone driving you crazy is not worth any price.------------------ Passion, Lust, Desire. Check out my journal http://www.mychristianpsychic.com/
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somethingexcellent Knowflake Posts: 2531 From: vodka fine, I'm so divine Registered: Nov 2012
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posted September 02, 2013 09:31 PM
What do you mean you mean by fake? 'Cause I do that, smile at people I just had it out with even if it was just yesterday. I don't care, lmfao!IP: Logged |
12muddy Knowflake Posts: 610 From: Registered: Feb 2013
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posted September 02, 2013 09:38 PM
If they cause serious damage then I won't ignore them. Those people shouldn't be handled gently.Most of the time I'll be like "Oh well" and smile as if nothing happened. People have their own reasons to behave the way they do. I don't require them to be "real" to me coz I'm not "real" to them either IP: Logged |
FruitTreeFresh Knowflake Posts: 173 From: Registered: Aug 2013
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posted September 02, 2013 09:43 PM
More specifications on the situation please.IP: Logged |
Jessica2407 Moderator Posts: 3888 From: Saturn Registered: Sep 2012
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posted September 02, 2013 11:12 PM
quote: Originally posted by PixieJane: My definition of fake people (important as I'm sure there will be different definitions here and I don't want anyone to make the mistake I'm talking about the same thing they are): Do anything to look good which includes tearing down others and/or stealing credit for what other people do. Furthermore, they have a strong tendency to treat people as accessories so if someone is useful then they groom them as friends & contacts, but if not (or worse, a liability) they drop them in a heartbeat, often with a metaphoric dagger in the back and malicious gossip.I'm generally good about keeping them out of my life by focusing on the positive and paying them as little mind as I can until they're entangled in the drama of others. One person with more clout than usual who came after me and mine needed to be dissuaded with a lawyer, but at least in his case his failed attempt to ruin us to make himself look better just brought me and mine closer together. My mom is fake, but she's also predictable (at least to me who has been around her for years, and her Leo and Gemini aspects made her brag about her tricks to me more than once while she was drunk which also helped). I deal with her very cautiously...nevertheless, I recognize some very bad things that happened to her that made her that way and I grudgingly feel some sympathy and pity (which would infuriate her if she knew) for her. I sometimes wonder if she ever gave up the alcohol she self-medicates with if the scorpio gone bad might somehow transform from a gray lizard to a phoenix, but I don't dare let myself hope for it. When I was younger and still learning I went into business for awhile using my washing machines to wash clothes for people (until I realized all the hot water I was using ate up all my profits). One mother slipped in a badly ripped shirt and I recall wondering if she was going to make cleaning rags out of it after it was washed as I couldn't imagine anyone wearing it, but when she picked her clothes up that time she (for the first time) searched until she found it and pulled it out claiming I ripped it and refused to pay me anything and pretended I was lying about it already being ripped. Later she came back to give me "another chance" and I bluntly refused, and when she asked why I reminded her of the shirt with Sag bluntness and Libra detachment and a calm, "We have a saying in Texas: first time shame on you, second time shame on me." She had a melt down but left after a major tantrum (and seeing I wasn't impressed) and tried a major gossip campaign against me. Luckily my reputation was good enough and hers bad enough (many had been burned by her before) that I weathered it well. However, I realized I probably wouldn't keep weathering things like that so in the future I wasn't blunt I simply either made my excuses (something like, "I've got way too much on my plate right now to take that job" which is technically true if you add, "to put up with your crap") and/or gave a price so high they wouldn't take it (or if they did then I might actually do it, but pay in advance!). That's been good about getting rid of a lot of the unnecessary drama that tried to become part of my life.
I want you to know I really enjoy reading your posts PJ. My definition of fake is similar as yours. I don't really care if someone I don't know (could be a neighbour or a colleague or a lost and found friend of the past) well fakes his/her reactions to me because I probably do the same to them except may be my genuine reactions will be apparent with my body language. When it's at work am more diplomatic because I was not recruited to play nice with people or for being a socializing queen!I was recruited to do a job and I need my people to make it happen. My real issue with being fake is people who are within my circle of ''closed loved ones''. My mom for one.My aunts..I can't handle the fake self righteousness and stupid reactions I have to witness at times. I am then called as being disrespectful or worse.
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Jessica2407 Moderator Posts: 3888 From: Saturn Registered: Sep 2012
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posted September 02, 2013 11:22 PM
@NorainLes veilles dames de ma famille sont toutes des manipulatrice.Tu t'imagine pas! Des fois je me demande si c'est pas dans les genes!! IP: Logged |
Kerosene Knowflake Posts: 4844 From: Mercury Registered: Dec 2012
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posted September 02, 2013 11:31 PM
I really dislike fake people... ugggh especially ass kissers and hypocrites, I'm usually painfully sarcastic around them... I'll usually pick at them and try and get a reaction, it's funny trying to see them keep their composure. I'll usually call them out on it and humiliate them in front of everyone. IP: Logged |
Jessica2407 Moderator Posts: 3888 From: Saturn Registered: Sep 2012
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posted September 02, 2013 11:50 PM
quote: Originally posted by Kerosene: I really dislike fake people... ugggh especially ass kissers and hypocrites, I'm usually painfully sarcastic around them... I'll usually pick at them and try and get a reaction, it's funny trying to see them keep their composure. I'll usually call them out on it and humiliate them in front of everyone.
OMG. I imagine doing that to my aunts! LMAO!! IP: Logged |
NickiG Knowflake Posts: 5816 From: Pluto, next to Ami Ann Registered: Jul 2010
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posted September 02, 2013 11:56 PM
You could always pull an elaborate prank on those fake people for your amusement------------------ I once saw a sign that said "sin is death" but if "all deaths are suicide (linda goodman)" and suicide is sin, then shouldnt "death is sin" be more appropriate? when organic is used to describe food then you know we have come to a dark age in history IP: Logged |
Kerosene Knowflake Posts: 4844 From: Mercury Registered: Dec 2012
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posted September 03, 2013 12:17 AM
we have a lot of saturn energy going on in our chart.. I don't think saturn likes that very much,IP: Logged |
Jessica2407 Moderator Posts: 3888 From: Saturn Registered: Sep 2012
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posted September 03, 2013 01:17 AM
quote: Originally posted by NickiG: You could always pull an elaborate prank on those fake people for your amusement
No.Like K said this is not me. Saturn won't let me do that. Actually I don't see the fun in doing that. IP: Logged |
charmainec Moderator Posts: 7210 From: Venus next to Randall Registered: Apr 2009
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posted September 03, 2013 01:43 AM
quote: Originally posted by Jessica2407: seriously I need to take notes. Cause I usually don't handle them at all. I tell them to get out of my face. Whatever. Next day they'll smile at me like nothing happened and am like WTF. So how do YOU handle them?
I ignore/avoid them now. In the past I'd just flat out tell them what I thought of them. There's no space in my life for insincere people.
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Jessica2407 Moderator Posts: 3888 From: Saturn Registered: Sep 2012
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posted September 03, 2013 01:51 AM
quote: Originally posted by charmainec: I ignore/avoid them now. In the past I'd just flat out tell them what I thought of them. There's no space in my life for insincere people.
I have yet come to the point of being able to ignore them I try to though,my blood boils sometimes so I HAVE to say something but they are very good at capitalising on the fact that they were 'there' when I needed them blah blah which I don't remember!Anyways they are 'the elders' so I gotta give them some respect right? IP: Logged |
charmainec Moderator Posts: 7210 From: Venus next to Randall Registered: Apr 2009
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posted September 03, 2013 02:07 AM
It can take a while to get to that point where you're like "bugger this crap". I understand what you mean about your blood boiling..we were discussing in another thread how are reactions change with time and experience to know how to handle certain situations.Ingoring/avoiding "fake" people has been effective for me thus far.. Although telling someone straight out feels better so that both parties know where they stand. Being blunt can make you quite quite unpopular to say the least but I really don't care. Life is not a popularity contest. A$$ kissers and "fake" nice people eek me. I mean if someone is being genuine with you, the least you expect is the same. But unfortunately we have all sorts so we just have to set boundries for ourselves - what we will and will not tolerate. Regarding your reference about elders, can you be more specific? Trying to understand. Like we were brought up respect elders, not to back chat them or even challenge them because they were "older". Do you mean it in that sense? IP: Logged |