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Topic: "No one will ever love me"
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Hera
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From: Aries fantasy land ^_^
Registered: Sep 2010
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posted September 23, 2013 03:16 PM
  
And I agree with Twirl, love isn't actually denied to you. Never. Most likely you're either not open to receive it or cannot see it in front of you because you're not looking at it through the lenses of Love. = Universal, unconditional Love, tolerance and acceptance of yourself and the world of which you are part of. IP: Logged |
Hera
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posted September 23, 2013 03:19 PM
When I say "you" I don't mean precisely you, Jessica, even though it seems like I was responding to you. I was talking in general. But I think those are very connected, from my point of view. IP: Logged |
Jessica2407
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From: Saturn
Registered: Sep 2012
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posted September 23, 2013 03:25 PM
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Hera
Moderator Posts: 8112
From: Aries fantasy land ^_^
Registered: Sep 2010
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posted September 23, 2013 03:33 PM
Sure Jess..  I am sorry if this stroke a chord with you and I contributed.. IP: Logged |
Swift Freeze
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From: One World
Registered: Nov 2009
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posted September 23, 2013 03:52 PM
Does it matter if needing love is an internal or external thing?Either way, we still need love. If you listen to yourself, you may end up drowning. If you listen to others, you may end up suffocating. ------------------
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Hera
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From: Aries fantasy land ^_^
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posted September 23, 2013 04:57 PM
I wasn't trying to say that self love replaces external love, indefinitely. But I think you cannot truly FEEL external love until you found internal love. And that's a GOOD thing. Because it is in OUR power. IP: Logged |
Ami Anne
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From: Pluto/house next to NickiG
Registered: Sep 2010
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posted September 23, 2013 05:00 PM
It is hard. I think humans need love like they need food. ------------------
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Twirl
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From: Europe
Registered: Mar 2013
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posted September 23, 2013 05:13 PM
Totally agree with how Hera described it.
@Jess, didn't write it to upset you. Wrote it because of the opposite. Sorry if it did. Edited out of course  IP: Logged |
aquaguy91
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From: tennessee
Registered: Jan 2012
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posted September 23, 2013 05:15 PM
Sigh* I really hate all the new agey sh*t about "loving yourself or nobody will love you". Its bogus, If it were true I wouldn't see soo many extremely insecure and needy people getting into relationships on a day to day basis. Contrary to popular belief, Being alone a lot will make you lonely and insecure after awhile. The only people who will tell you differently are those who enjoy tons of external validation (Rich social life,constant supply of sex and romance etc.IP: Logged |
Ami Anne
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From: Pluto/house next to NickiG
Registered: Sep 2010
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posted September 23, 2013 05:20 PM
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Originally posted by aquaguy91:
Sigh* I really hate all the new agey sh*t about "loving yourself or nobody will love you". Its bogus, If it were true I wouldn't see soo many extremely insecure and needy people getting into relationships on a day to day basis. Contrary to popular belief, Being alone a lot will make you lonely and insecure after awhile. The only people who will tell you differently are those who enjoy tons of external validation (Rich social life,constant supply of sex and romance etc.
I agree. I think you have to know that God loves you to have the kind of confidence where you can stand alone even if people don't like you.
I can't say about people who had parents who build them up. Odette seems to have a real confidence to me, not based on new agey BS. I don't know how she got it. I would be interested in having her weigh in, if she would like. For me, I lost my confidence. I did love myself at one point. Then, I had so many hard experiences that I just went into a shell and wanted to hide. I developed a bad shame that I was worthless and I didn't want anyone to see me. Now, I am coming out of it slowly but I attribute it to God but also people who believed in me. You need people to believe in you and give you a hand up. I try to do that for others, if I see someone struggling because I know how much it means to a person.
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Hera
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posted September 23, 2013 05:26 PM
It's not bogus at all, but very, VERY few people will actually be able to love, accept and forgive themselves for everything they've done. And I never said that nobody will love you unless you love yourself, I said you will simply not see it or appreciate it when love is actually offered to you. You may have friends who care and disregard them because you want to fall in fantasy or lust with that blue eyed beauty over there. Do NOT make the confusion between what I mentioned and the things Love is mistaken for by immature, desperate people.IP: Logged |
aquaguy91
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From: tennessee
Registered: Jan 2012
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posted September 23, 2013 05:34 PM
All that crap about loving yourself and confidence really rubs me the wrong way, especially when its directed at me. Why does it bother me? Because I'm not really an insecure person, I am comfortable with myself inside and out. I can honestly say I like myself , I just get bummed out that I haven't found a girl in quiet awhile who does too. I have been single for a long while, not gonna say how long, but its been a long time. I have tried meeting women but I haven't had any luck. I am not desperate, I don't cry or mope around but I do get lonely sometimes and wish I had a girl to spend time with , just like any other straight man with a pulse. I don't see how wanting that and being bummed out that I haven't found it makes me an insecure person.IP: Logged |
Ami Anne
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From: Pluto/house next to NickiG
Registered: Sep 2010
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posted September 23, 2013 05:48 PM
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Originally posted by aquaguy91:
All that crap about loving yourself and confidence really rubs me the wrong way, especially when its directed at me. Why does it bother me? Because I'm not really an insecure person, I am comfortable with myself inside and out. I can honestly say I like myself , I just get bummed out that I haven't found a girl in quiet awhile who does too. I have been single for a long while, not gonna say how long, but its been a long time. I have tried meeting women but I haven't had any luck. I am not desperate, I don't cry or mope around but I do get lonely sometimes and wish I had a girl to spend time with , just like any other straight man with a pulse. I don't see how wanting that and being bummed out that I haven't found it makes me an insecure person.
I will say that when I talked to you on the phone, you were very confident 
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Hera
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Registered: Sep 2010
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posted September 23, 2013 05:56 PM
Oh I know better than to go down this road with you. I'll just go and facepalm myself right now and imagine I went through the process. Ok, so don't believe in it. What do I care?! IP: Logged |
Ami Anne
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posted September 23, 2013 06:07 PM
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Twirl
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Registered: Mar 2013
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posted September 23, 2013 06:09 PM
Why does it have to be either/or?
I think it's perfectly fine to like having someone in your life to share your life & love with. Very normal. But I also think relationships are most balanced when it's not a 'need', but someone who adds to your life. That changes the relationship balance. For that it comes in handy to have worked through insecurities/issues/know yourself, so you can be independent & accepting in the relationship. Towards yourself (being open & honest), but also towards the other.
It's just not necessary to have to share or feel love with a significant other. IP: Logged |
Hera
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Registered: Sep 2010
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posted September 23, 2013 06:25 PM
I fully agree. 2 broken halves make a broken whole. IP: Logged |
asclibrasagsun
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From: Mälmo, Sweden
Registered: Aug 2012
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posted September 29, 2013 05:28 AM
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Originally posted by Twirl:
Why does it have to be either/or?
I think it's perfectly fine to like having someone in your life to share your life & love with. Very normal. But I also think relationships are most balanced when it's not a 'need', but someone who adds to your life. That changes the relationship balance. For that it comes in handy to have worked through insecurities/issues/know yourself, so you can be independent & accepting in the relationship. Towards yourself (being open & honest), but also towards the other.
It's just not necessary to have to share or feel love with a significant other.
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mirage29
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From: us
Registered: May 2012
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posted September 30, 2013 03:14 PM
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Originally posted by YoursTrulyAlways:
Perhaps it's incumbent on yourselves to also be open to others as much as you wish those you desire would not reject you. Or otherwise swear to be content and not give too much of a sh1t whether you have anyone else. Loneliness is just a state of mind.
... and state of mind affects body, and body can die. God can love you... but unless you can 'feel' loved by earth people you may as well be caught in the non-being of non-alive deep Space. Recently I've posted clips from Jodie Foster movie Contact... [9:54] Mystical Flight. At around mark 5:00 there's the apparition of an Alien in the image of her father...on the Beach. She figures out soon that this is somehow not 'really' her dad, and she moves in her state of mind, vacillating yet inclusive of both her emotions and her logical testing intellect... She asked questions. The last thing the Alien/Dad said was...
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"You are an interesting species [homoSapiens], an interesting mix... you're capable of such Beautiful Dreams, and such horrible nightmares. You feel so lost... so cut off... so alone.
Oddly enough, see, [refers to the conglomeration of Collective conscious alien species] -- in all our searching the only thing we've found that makes the emptiness [dark black Space] bearable is "each other." Now, you go home....
The 'knowledge' that 'others' are there 'with and for you' can help the soul and the Culture tolerate the pain of the intolerable... I saw Dee's thread today on Sehnsucht... http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum25/HTML/004410.html IP: Logged |
YoursTrulyAlways
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posted September 30, 2013 03:26 PM
I'll survive just fine alone.IP: Logged |
mirage29
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posted September 30, 2013 03:27 PM
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blueskiez06
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posted October 01, 2013 08:58 AM
asclibrasagsun i dont know your situation, but i agree with Ami harsh aspects of Saturn to Sun (also sun saturn must accept a certain higher than the norm degree of solitude) and Moon do tend to play this trick of emotional coldness, this feeling of lacking. I dont know your natal chart but in vedic astrology if you have a moon that has no planets preceeding it or following it, they say its unsupported and gives this feeling of extreme loneliness exactly what you said no one will ever love me, eventhough they actually have people who love them.leaning on yourself, making your own happines and foregetting about the other making u happy is the best remedy IP: Logged |
Ami Anne
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From: Pluto/house next to NickiG
Registered: Sep 2010
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posted October 01, 2013 09:17 AM
One of my most precious clients has venus conj Saturn conj the MC.
She thinks she has to be perfect to be lovable and she is SO loveable.Others can see our value when we can't. ------------------
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venuscorpio86
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From: salem,or usa
Registered: Feb 2011
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posted October 17, 2013 03:40 AM
I do, the reason is...because no one ever has, and I always get screwed over. Only people who love me are my family. I have no clue how it feels to be loved by a man or for someone to care about me and I don't think I ever will...sucks to know that I will live my life that way.IP: Logged |
FireMoon
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From: Minnesota
Registered: Mar 2012
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posted October 18, 2013 11:04 PM
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