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asclibrasagsun
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posted September 22, 2013 06:18 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for asclibrasagsun     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Do you ever feel that way?

How do you stop those thoughts from coming into your head?

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SDragon
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posted September 22, 2013 06:46 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for SDragon     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
If those thoughts are coming in, you don't need to stop them but you do need to realize they're not true.

And then you need to try to understand why you think that. I didn't think I thought that, but it wasn't until I hit 26 that I truly understood that I believed it due to my childhood experiences. Once you understand the cause the thoughts will disappear on their own.

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posted September 22, 2013 06:47 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for SDragon     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm a much healthier person now.

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Ami Anne
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posted September 22, 2013 07:18 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by asclibrasagsun:
Do you ever feel that way?

How do you stop those thoughts from coming into your head?


I hear you. Does your Sun or Moon make a close aspect to Saturn?

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posted September 22, 2013 08:56 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for 12muddy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by asclibrasagsun:
Do you ever feel that way?

How do you stop those thoughts from coming into your head?


Sometimes, when I was much younger. Coz no one really showed me love back then.

I stopped those thoughts by having hopes. I thought to myself "Well there are billions of people in this world, at least one of them will love me. I just have to keep searching. Lol my life won't suck that bad". Or "Eventually I'll have people tripping over themselves wanting to love me, lol".

Yeah I pretty much just laughed at my own thoughts, kept my hopes and loved myself as much as I could.

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hannaramaa
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posted September 22, 2013 10:41 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for hannaramaa     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by asclibrasagsun:
Do you ever feel that way?

How do you stop those thoughts from coming into your head?


Everybody feels this way at some point, and perhaps all their lives. At the moment I feel this way, but I know it will pass and I have to keep telling myself it's not true. I feel the need to keep this private because otherwise you get a slew of people contradicting you and trying to show their support. You know they're only trying to help, they mean well, and hell... love you but it doesn't do much when you're in the thick of that sinking feeling. I have Sun, Moon, Mercury, and Venus aspecting Saturn.

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posted September 22, 2013 11:00 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jessica2407     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by asclibrasagsun:
Do you ever feel that way?

How do you stop those thoughts from coming into your head?


You can't stop them.

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Hera
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posted September 22, 2013 11:14 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Hera     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by asclibrasagsun:
Do you ever feel that way?

How do you stop those thoughts from coming into your head?


I feel this way, now. I have heard it growing up, I hear it every time I get rejected or turned down. I hear it when I am lonely, when I am tired, sad and frustrated. Which is most of the time, lately.

In truth, we wouldn't need another person to validate our worthiness to be loved if we could just love ourselves.

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posted September 22, 2013 11:22 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Padre35     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

By trusting your own view of yourself over what anyone else has to offer.

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Ami Anne
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posted September 22, 2013 11:43 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Very true, Hera.

I was sitting here today trying to wrap my mind around that idea and then you just said it.

I feel kind of on the verge of it.

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asclibrasagsun
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posted September 22, 2013 04:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for asclibrasagsun     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm dying of loneliness...

Hera since you know about my situation could you take a look at my horary...I would appreciate it so much...I will post it in personal readings
I have been sitting here crying hopeless...

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hannaramaa
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posted September 22, 2013 05:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hannaramaa     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Hera:
I feel this way, now. I have heard it growing up, I hear it every time I get rejected or turned down. I hear it when I am lonely, when I am tired, sad and frustrated. Which is most of the time, lately.

In truth, we wouldn't need another person to validate our worthiness to be loved if we could just love ourselves.


Hera! You, me, and another user... Elly7? We're all Aries and we're all feeling like s.it lately! You think it's Uranus or something else?

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YoursTrulyAlways
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posted September 22, 2013 09:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for YoursTrulyAlways     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Perhaps it's incumbent on yourselves to also be open to others as much as you wish those you desire would not reject you. Or otherwise swear to be content and not give too much of a sh1t whether you have anyone else. Loneliness is just a state of mind.

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posted September 23, 2013 07:12 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Swift Freeze     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by SDragon:
If those thoughts are coming in, you don't need to stop them but you do need to realize they're not true.

And then you need to try to understand why you think that. I didn't think I thought that, but it wasn't until I hit 26 that I truly understood that I believed it due to my childhood experiences. Once you understand the cause the thoughts will disappear on their own.


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Originally posted by YoursTrulyAlways:
Perhaps it's incumbent on yourselves to also be open to others as much as you wish those you desire would not reject you. Or otherwise swear to be content and not give too much of a sh1t whether you have anyone else. Loneliness is just a state of mind.

I understand where you are coming from, but I disagree slightly. Lonliness is also a state of feeling. I'm not saying that everyone is co-dependent emotionally, or that they should be. Nor am I saying independence is a bad thing, because it isn't, it is a good thing. People are built differently, and have different needs that need to be fulfilled. I feel that for some people, companionship is important. I do understand that it is important to recognise that lonliness can be stronger if you worry about it.

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Originally posted by Hera:
I feel this way, now. I have heard it growing up, I hear it every time I get rejected or turned down. I hear it when I am lonely, when I am tired, sad and frustrated. Which is most of the time, lately.

In truth, we wouldn't need another person to validate our worthiness to be loved if we could just love ourselves.


We can love ourselves, and there is so much to love about ourselves. For example, I love that I write songs, whether other people enjoy them or not. I hope that some of them touch people the way that songs I have listened to have touched me.
I would venture that >95% of people at the places I work think I am wonderful, helpful, and lovely. I tend to think I'm a little shy, and I used to wonder, and still do sometimes, why they seem to love me so much. I just accept it now, and try not to think about the why.
I remember many years ago, I asked someone why they liked me and what my attractive qualities were. Surprisingly I got an honest answer, and it really helped me get a better understanding of how others see me. Smile, sense of humour, personality, my mind etc. I've asked a couple of my friends out of curiosity but they haven't been as forthcoming, mostly saying they love that I am honest and passionate about the things I love.

If you look at yourself Hera, I believe you are a Surgeon? (This is where I look silly if I'm wrong ) I think that is something to love, that you have the skill and desire to help save and make a difference to people's lives. I am sure there are many other things as well.

There may be things that we may not like, or that may make us unhappy.
We tend to focus on these, rather than the positives, which are often more plentiful and have a greater impact.

Grab a stack of post it notes, write down on each one, an individual positive; trait, quality, feature, or something in your life. It can be anything, from as simple as, I have beautiful eyes, or, I have a wonderful smile.
Write this on a post it note and put the note somewhere you will read it every day, preferably twice. Maybe on your mirror, or on your bedroom door so you read it when you wake up and when you go to sleep.
Start small and then when new positive traits/characteristics become apparent to you, through yourself or others, write them down and put them up as well.

I did this many years ago, I created a file on my computer, cause I'm such a nerd, and slowly filled it with the positive things I saw in myself, and that others saw in me. I read it every day and it really helped me to understand that actually, I'm pretty okay.

Maybe it is something akin to body dysmorphia, except it is mental or personality dyspmorphia. That the view we hold of ourselves, is skewed and something we have to deal with.

Maybe it can be so bad, that we seek other people to tell us that our own views of ourselves are accurate, and if their views contradict ours, we immediately dismiss them and tell them they are wrong. So we go and seek out someone else to confirm, our often times wrong and negative views of ourselves.
Conversely I am sure it happens to people who have an over inflated view of themselves. They go and seek out people to affirm their own opinions of themselves, dismissing and ignoring anyone who doesn't hold the same opinion. Instead seeking out people who do confirm that they are indeed amazing.

What I think is even more fascinating, is that we often times have wrong perceptions of other people as well as ourselves. Maybe that is something that comes from a subjective existence. Perhaps we all walk around, don't remember events correctly, and make up our own realities.

I don't have an answer for any of this. It is after all a journey. Learning to trust ourselves that we are great, is a hard thing to do.


Am I happy being by myself? I don't know about happy. I am okay with being by myself. Would it be better if I had someone to share with? Yeah I feel it would, someone to share laughs and smiles with, to share tears and sadness with, to share hopes, dreams, and fears with, and to share love with.

Am I going to condemn myself for not having anyone currently? Am I going to worry that I am not good enough or that no one will ever love me? Where will all that get me? So no, I won't let it consume me, I won't let it worry me.
I am unique. Quite simply there is no one else like me, and this is the single most attractive quality in any person.


My Sister has a new tattoo, she had it done a week or two ago. It reads; We accept the love we think we deserve.

I'm sure I have more to say but I think I will take some time to mull it over.

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Please, I am in no way trying to invalidate people for feeling the way they do, or for going through, or having the experiences they have. It is perfectly okay to feel everything, it does not make us weak, it does not make us less, or make the experience less, what we go through and what we feel is very real, and don't let anyone tell you otherwise.
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I'm so cappy
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posted September 23, 2013 08:30 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for I'm so cappy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Not being loved doesn't make you less valuable, got it??

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Jessica2407
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posted September 23, 2013 01:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jessica2407     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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YoursTrulyAlways
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posted September 23, 2013 02:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for YoursTrulyAlways     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Jessica2407,

Hi. How are you? Would you like to help me, please?

OP: I'm sorry for crashing your thread. Just contacting Jessica, that's all.

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posted September 23, 2013 02:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Twirl     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Really? That's clearing away everything that there is to be loved & love. And in this description then love is expressed as an outward 'need', which I.m.o it isn't. It's internal & external & everywhere where you see it (so it starts internally). A 'need' feels like a lack of something/something not bring okay, while in reality there isn't a lack. It's always there & accessible if you wish for it. And I don't mean that in the literal delivering of a lover, but basically in the appreciation of all that is there.
And if you currently don't feel it or feel it's denied to you, then it's just that okay as well. It doesn't mean something is wrong. It just means there's currently no lover in your life. Doesn't mean that there is no love nor appreciation towards you.
Again, all in my opinion.

I understand this is put down a little black & white, but wasn't thinking of typing an essay, lol.
So I'm very much with what Swift says.

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Jessica2407
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posted September 23, 2013 02:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jessica2407     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Jessica2407,

Hi. How are you? Would you like to help me, please?

OP: I'm sorry for crashing your thread. Just contacting Jessica, that's all.


Sure YTA.

What's up?

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Jessica2407
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posted September 23, 2013 02:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jessica2407     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted September 23, 2013 02:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Twirl     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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I know. I just tried to point out the other side, because I can imagine it isn't a nice feeling to have.

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Hera
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posted September 23, 2013 03:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Hera     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It's not depressing at all. If you are incapable of loving and appreciating yourself as being worthy to be loved, how can you expect someone else to? How can you even believe them, when they tell you that they love you? You don't.

Self love is neither selfish, nor depressing. In fact, during my happiest months after I recovered from depression, I was happy because I was at peace with myself. I was single just like I am now. I had the same busy and demanding job that I've been having for years (yup, Swift, I am a surgeon). My boss and I still don't see eye to eye and there is always some sort of conflict around me. I wasn't talking to my family back then, either. The difference is there was no inner conflict back then, I was content with the person I was and able to appreciate the good things about myself and my life. I was grateful for what I had and little things used to make me laugh out loud. I didn't need to hear that people loved me but guess what, I attracted people to me because I was happy and people did like me because I made them feel good, about themselves. It all starts within and it all ends within.

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LOVE, because what else is worth living for, and dying for?!

Sandpaper kisses on a cheek or a chin
That is the way for a day to begin.
Sandpaper kisses, a cuddle and a purr
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YoursTrulyAlways
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posted September 23, 2013 03:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for YoursTrulyAlways     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Jessica2407:
Sure YTA.

What's up?


I'm going to carry this convo somewhere else, but basically I have a vedic reading from some local source. I would like to e-mail it to you for your review, if you are so inclined. No real questions, just trying to tie in with everything you have said. But I need some sort of generic/anonymous e-mail if that is the case. I can't copy and paste a 50 page PDF file. Subsequent to this, if necessary, I will start a new thread in Personal Readings. Many thanks.

OP: my most sincere apologies.

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Jessica2407
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posted September 23, 2013 03:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jessica2407     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by YoursTrulyAlways:
I'm going to carry this convo somewhere else, but basically I have a vedic reading from some local source. I would like to e-mail it to you for your review, if you are so inclined. No real questions, just trying to tie in with everything you have said. But I need some sort of generic/anonymous e-mail if that is the case. I can't copy and paste a 50 page PDF file. Subsequent to this, if necessary, I will start a new thread in Personal Readings. Many thanks.

OP: my most sincere apologies.


Email it to me.

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