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Topic: Male sexuality shaming
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aquaguy91
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From: tennessee
Registered: Jan 2012
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posted October 22, 2013 06:41 PM
  
Imo male sexuality is something that is grossly misunderstood by most people today and it kind of irritates me. Just look at the media, it almost always portrays mens sexual side in a negative light. You also hear a lot of people guilt tripping guys by saying stuff like " You just wanna get laid" . I sometimes wonder if it has ever occured to people that a guy can lust after a girl and still respect her and like her as a person. I'm not denying that there are lots of guys who are only out to get laid but it just annoys me that male sexuality is demonized because of the actions of some
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PixieJane
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From: CA
Registered: Oct 2010
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posted October 22, 2013 07:07 PM
Don't be absurd. Movies still end with the hero getting the pretty girl at the end (which may or may not include anything romantic about it), James Bond is just one of many who has casual sex to cheering audiences, and shows that have a guy addicted to sex (often without any emotional connections) such as Two and a Half Men and How I Met Your Mother are popular (or were a couple of years ago anyway). Meanwhile women's magazines like Cosmo want men to be slave to their hormones (and seem to assume women are as well) and gives tips on how to keep a guy sexually interested (and thus interested) while men's magazines often give detailed advice on how to have sex with a woman (often by a woman). And I hear 50 Shades of Gray is being made into a movie. I also just saw an advertisement on iGoogle for a "men only" video game that looked as if it might have pornographic elements as plenty of games do. And music is filled with songs of lust (by men and women both) as much as love. Where you're likely to the shaming element is when a man relies on alcohol (getting her too drunk to say no) or force. And in my observation men are more likely to condemn this than women (though the women who do will do so much more passionately than most men). Beyond that it's the opposite, men are to be shamed for being gay, having a small penis (and thus "can't satisfy"), or never "getting any." I'd show examples I've seen around the net but the ones I can think of immediately would get this thread locked. OK, there is that "whipped" thing as well which you might actually be thinking of where a guy does anything a woman wants (like going vegetarian when he loves meat) just because he wants it so bad... IP: Logged |
aquaguy91
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From: tennessee
Registered: Jan 2012
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posted October 22, 2013 07:11 PM
I knew people were going to disagree with me but I definitely see it. From what I've seen a lot of people either believe a guy wants sex or he actually cares about the girl, its as if a guy can't do both at the same time.IP: Logged |
PixieJane
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From: CA
Registered: Oct 2010
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posted October 22, 2013 07:23 PM
Interesting enough I did listen to a Baptist preacher who said you had to choose between sex and love (and seeing how miserable his wife looked every time I saw her I believe she at least chose poorly in marrying him). Though normally preachers who shame men for sex are usually much more shaming of women ("how were you dressed ladies, what did you do to defraud the man who whistled at you?"). Maybe you live in a Bible Belt where that's all too common. IP: Logged |
YoursTrulyAlways
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posted October 22, 2013 07:34 PM
Of course I want to get laid. Often and for a long time as well. As often as possible and for as much satisfaction and possible. I like getting laid. At least I'm not hypocritical about it. And if I'm going to be limited to one woman, then so be it. But that doesn't change the game plan. And she better be as hot as possible and preferably stay that way. At least I'm not a hypocrite. I'm not going to have sex with a woman I don't find attractive. IP: Logged |
Kerosene
Knowflake Posts: 6401
From: Mercury
Registered: Dec 2012
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posted October 22, 2013 07:40 PM
lol... right...
Shouldn't both genders have the same privilege of being respected regardless of sexuality?The nerdy guys getting the hot girl after punching her douchebag boyfriend and the weird girl transforming her looks to attract the quarterback and win the title as prom queen.
This how media has always portrayed the genders. Anyways I'd rather live in a world where both genders are shamed as opposed to one gender specifically men to have even more privilege than they already do...
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aquaguy91
Moderator Posts: 7604
From: tennessee
Registered: Jan 2012
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posted October 22, 2013 07:55 PM
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Originally posted by Kerosene:
lol... right...
Shouldn't both genders have the same privilege of being respected regardless of sexuality?
Well did I even imply that they shouldn't? IP: Logged |
Lazyscarecrow
Knowflake Posts: 1384
From: Silent Hill
Registered: Aug 2011
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posted October 22, 2013 07:56 PM
I've never observed men being openly shamed for expressing their sexuality (at least straight men) or even "thirsting" after women they were attracted to. Yeah women talk junk about men being superficial or whatever but we accept it since that's what's been keeping our species going.Women on the other hand...  IP: Logged |
aquaguy91
Moderator Posts: 7604
From: tennessee
Registered: Jan 2012
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posted October 22, 2013 07:58 PM
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Originally posted by YoursTrulyAlways:
Of course I want to get laid. Often and for a long time as well. As often as possible and for as much satisfaction and possible. I like getting laid. At least I'm not hypocritical about it. And if I'm going to be limited to one woman, then so be it. But that doesn't change the game plan. And she better be as hot as possible and preferably stay that way. At least I'm not a hypocrite. I'm not going to have sex with a woman I don't find attractive.
Good post. You may like to get laid but you are also a good husband and dad. See,it is possible isn't it lol? It seems that a lot of people believe that any guy who wants sex is a scumbag.
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aquaguy91
Moderator Posts: 7604
From: tennessee
Registered: Jan 2012
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posted October 22, 2013 08:03 PM
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Originally posted by Lazyscarecrow:
I've never observed men being openly shamed for expressing their sexuality (at least straight men) or even "thirsting" after women they were attracted to. Yeah women talk junk about men being superficial or whatever but we accept it since that's what's been keeping our species going.Women on the other hand...
I have definitely seen it a lot and experienced it first hand. IP: Logged |
aquaguy91
Moderator Posts: 7604
From: tennessee
Registered: Jan 2012
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posted October 22, 2013 08:10 PM
I knew everyone would disagree with me on this lol. What's funny is the fact that I have been shamed for my sexuality atleast 100 times on this very forum. Whenever I brought up my frustration with dating somebody would always throw the " You are just mad because you aren't getting laid" bs at me. The reality of the situation is sex is easily bought. If I just wanted sex I could bypass all the bs, mindgames, and drama of the dating game with a little cash.IP: Logged |
Lazyscarecrow
Knowflake Posts: 1384
From: Silent Hill
Registered: Aug 2011
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posted October 22, 2013 08:11 PM
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Originally posted by aquaguy91:
I have definitely seen it a lot and experienced it first hand.
Why put so much stock into other people having a problem with you (or whoever it is) being attracted to women? Perhaps I'm missing something but uh... I've seen lots of ppl here have gotten on you for your opinions on women & gender roles in dating in general. But no one can stop you from saying "so-and-so is hot" or being sexually attracted to a woman who you claim to respect. And no one is. IP: Logged |
YoursTrulyAlways
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posted October 22, 2013 08:56 PM
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Originally posted by aquaguy91:
I knew everyone would disagree with me on this lol. What's funny is the fact that I have been shamed for my sexuality atleast 100 times on this very forum. Whenever I brought up my frustration with dating somebody would always throw the " You are just mad because you aren't getting laid" bs at me. The reality of the situation is sex is easily bought. If I just wanted sex I could bypass all the bs, mindgames, and drama of the dating game with a little cash.
Woah. Lol. Gives new definition to a business transaction. Services for a fee. Lol
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Ami Anne
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From: Pluto/house next to NickiG
Registered: Sep 2010
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posted October 22, 2013 09:25 PM
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Originally posted by aquaguy91:
Imo male sexuality is something that is grossly misunderstood by most people today and it kind of irritates me. Just look at the media, it almost always portrays mens sexual side in a negative light. You also hear a lot of people guilt tripping guys by saying stuff like " You just wanna get laid" . I sometimes wonder if it has ever occured to people that a guy can lust after a girl and still respect her and like her as a person. I'm not denying that there are lots of guys who are only out to get laid but it just annoys me that male sexuality is demonized because of the actions of some
douchebags.
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Ami Anne
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posted October 22, 2013 09:34 PM
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Originally posted by aquaguy91:
I knew people were going to disagree with me but I definitely see it. From what I've seen a lot of people either believe a guy wants sex or he actually cares about the girl, its as if a guy can't do both at the same time.
God made it both. Geez Louise. It is not that complicated for people to understand ------------------
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Ami Anne
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posted October 22, 2013 09:36 PM
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Originally posted by aquaguy91:
I knew everyone would disagree with me on this lol. What's funny is the fact that I have been shamed for my sexuality atleast 100 times on this very forum. Whenever I brought up my frustration with dating somebody would always throw the " You are just mad because you aren't getting laid" bs at me. The reality of the situation is sex is easily bought. If I just wanted sex I could bypass all the bs, mindgames, and drama of the dating game with a little cash.
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Kerosene
Knowflake Posts: 6401
From: Mercury
Registered: Dec 2012
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posted October 22, 2013 09:58 PM
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Originally posted by aquaguy91:
Well did I even imply that they shouldn't?
I think it's interesting people are calling men out now like they do to women.
Where in the past they always blamed the woman for tempting men. lol
Overall this seems like a petty issue to me.
Men are called dogs and women are called ***** lol..
Society is ridiculous, what else is new? IP: Logged |
aquaguy91
Moderator Posts: 7604
From: tennessee
Registered: Jan 2012
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posted October 22, 2013 10:15 PM
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Originally posted by Kerosene:
I think it's interesting people are calling men out now like they do to women.
Where in the past they always blamed the woman for tempting men. lol
Overall this seems like a petty issue to me.
Men are called dogs and women are called ***** lol..Society is ridiculous, what else is new?
You have a point my friend but you also have to remember that female sexuality isn't seen as a threat the way male sexuality is. Yes, women who are overtly sexual are sometimes called wh*res but men sometimes get fired from jobs or get in other types of
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Kerosene
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From: Mercury
Registered: Dec 2012
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posted October 22, 2013 10:34 PM
True, but I never flirt with women at work... inter-work relationships are distracting and inappropriate imo
Besides Some women don't like being flirted with in professional environments and we have to respect that.
It can be awkward, for example I'm competive at work and while I'm friendly I won't hesitate to cut throats if the opportunity arises. I think people with venus in the 6th house and 10th house can easily get away with it. Oh yeah, I found out today this one intern at my job got fired for harassing multiple women. He was actually pretty hilarious he would message them on facebook at like 12 in the morning inviting them to his place and message them back calling them wh*res when they never replied... Who does that...
What a waste of an amazing opportunity, but I think was a trust fund kid. IP: Logged |
Ami Anne
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From: Pluto/house next to NickiG
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posted October 22, 2013 10:36 PM
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Originally posted by Kerosene:
True, but I never flirt with women at work... It's inappropriate imo
Some women don't like being flirted with in professional environments and we have to respect that. It can be awkward, for example I'm competive at work and while I'm friendly I won't hesitate to cut throats if the opportunity arises.
I think people with venus in the 6th house and 10th house can get away with it.Oh yeah, I found out today this one intern at my job got fired for harassing with multiple women. He was actually pretty hilarious he would message them on facebook at like 12 in the morning inviting them to his place and message them back calling them wh*res when they never replied... Who does that...
What a waste of an amazing opportunity, but I think was a trust fund kid.
LOL sounds like someone I know
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aquaguy91
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From: tennessee
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posted October 22, 2013 11:00 PM
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Originally posted by Kerosene:
True, but I never flirt with women at work... inter-work relationships are distracting and inappropriate imo
Besides Some women don't like being flirted with in professional environments and we have to respect that.
It can be awkward, for example I'm competive at work and while I'm friendly I won't hesitate to cut throats if the opportunity arises. I think people with venus in the 6th house and 10th house can easily get away with it. Oh yeah, I found out today this one intern at my job got fired for harassing multiple women. He was actually pretty hilarious he would message them on facebook at like 12 in the morning inviting them to his place and message them back calling them wh*res when they never replied... Who does that...
What a waste of an amazing opportunity, but I think was a trust fund kid.
Yea but not all guys are that stupid or will do something that dramatic. I know a guy who was pulled into human resources and nearly got fired for telling a girl he liked her ankle bracelet. Now that was pretty silly imo.IP: Logged |
Padre35
Knowflake Posts: 2542
From: Asheville, NC, US
Registered: Jul 2012
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posted October 22, 2013 11:08 PM
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Originally posted by YoursTrulyAlways:
Of course I want to get laid. Often and for a long time as well. As often as possible and for as much satisfaction and possible. I like getting laid. At least I'm not hypocritical about it. And if I'm going to be limited to one woman, then so be it. But that doesn't change the game plan. And she better be as hot as possible and preferably stay that way. At least I'm not a hypocrite. I'm not going to have sex with a woman I don't find attractive.
Well yeah...  I'm still trying to wrap my head around "male sexuality shaming". All I can think is it means a woman you ask a totally legit question to, say 'pardon me, do you happen to know where starbucks is on this street" and being given "go away, you just want to get laid" in return. IP: Logged |
Padre35
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From: Asheville, NC, US
Registered: Jul 2012
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posted October 22, 2013 11:11 PM
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Originally posted by Kerosene:
True, but I never flirt with women at work... inter-work relationships are distracting and inappropriate imo
Besides Some women don't like being flirted with in professional environments and we have to respect that.
It can be awkward, for example I'm competive at work and while I'm friendly I won't hesitate to cut throats if the opportunity arises. I think people with venus in the 6th house and 10th house can easily get away with it. Oh yeah, I found out today this one intern at my job got fired for harassing multiple women. He was actually pretty hilarious he would message them on facebook at like 12 in the morning inviting them to his place and message them back calling them wh*res when they never replied... Who does that...
What a waste of an amazing opportunity, but I think was a trust fund kid.
I flirt at work, nothing like that intern dude, more "you look great today is such and such new" or something very low speed, not full on 12 am FB invites for sex.. I'd think that is AG's idea of "male sexuality shaming" but not completely sure IP: Logged |
Kerosene
Knowflake Posts: 6401
From: Mercury
Registered: Dec 2012
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posted October 22, 2013 11:35 PM
You think he just said "I like your ankle bracelet," with out any suggestive body language or gestures.
You must be pretty naive to believe him..Otherwise she must of really disliked him to complain over something so trivial.
While most women ignore it when guys ask them out at my work place.. They're usually annoyed though lol. IP: Logged |
Hera
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From: Aries fantasy land ^_^
Registered: Sep 2010
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posted October 22, 2013 11:40 PM
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Originally posted by aquaguy91:
I knew people were going to disagree with me but I definitely see it. From what I've seen a lot of people either believe a guy wants sex or he actually cares about the girl, its as if a guy can't do both at the same time.
If the dude I fancy just wants to hold my hand, we've got a problem.  Of course I expect the guy who's genuinely into me to want sex. Praise the lord! I do, too. I'm Aries Mars d'oh! IP: Logged |
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