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Topic: Parenting Style: The Relentless Pursuit of Perfection
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mockingbird Knowflake Posts: 2128 From: Registered: Dec 2011
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posted January 03, 2014 01:21 PM
quote: Originally posted by Faith: mockingbird!!!! Happy New Year! So happy to see you again!
Hey, Faith! Happy New Year!Are you on FB? I just remembered why I stopped frequenting this forum. ------------------ I love it when people use the word "sheeple". It lets me know not to take them seriously. •••••••••••••••••• If I've included this sig, it's because I'm posting from a mobile device. Please excuse all outrageous typos and confusing auto-corrects. IP: Logged |
Randall Webmaster Posts: 36001 From: Saturn next to Charmainec Registered: Apr 2009
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posted January 03, 2014 02:29 PM
quote: Originally posted by mockingbird: Your style seems a good one, YTA, and about what we do - though we can't spoil our children quite so lavishly.(While my husband is bringing home enough for me to stay home with our children - and that's saying something in my area, as you know - we're also living in a quasi-inherited house and are a good deal more frugal than most of our neighbors.) You also alluded to something else that I think is important: Kids are different. My eldest needs a stronger hand (a Taurus Sun with a Gemini Moon/Venus/Mars Stellium in the 11th, a Leo Asc, and an Aries Merc, if anyone's interested). "Argument" is her middle name. Her bull-headedness and verbal fire mixed with acuity will serve her well if we can teach her some d*mn humility. But she's like a raptor - always testing the fences. My middle (a Taurus Sun, Pisces Moon + (er...I forgot) Stellium, Saggie Asc) melts into a puddle of blech with anything much more than encouragement and gentle reprimand. She loves to bake and create and cuddle, but can be dogged if she's pointed in the direction of something interesting and given the space to explore it. She's just a pliable, happy joy. If anything, we're going to have to teach her to stand up for herself and assert her will when it matters. Our youngest - oy. She's still young, but already clearly possessing a dogged determinism, a soft heart, and (for her age) an uncommonly analytical, ordered mind. *thinks for a second* Cancer Sun, Pisces Moon, Virgo Asc, Gem Merc. For now, she requires only slight reprimand.
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Faith Moderator Posts: 6460 From: Registered: Jul 2011
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posted January 03, 2014 03:42 PM
quote: Originally posted by mockingbird: Are you on FB? I just remembered why I stopped frequenting this forum.
To me, LL is like having a spare dysfunctional family. Sweet Peas is like having an endless Thanksgiving dinner with this family...same issues, over and over and over. I'm not on FB, so I hope you will come back once in a while. We'll save a plate for you!
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YoursTrulyAlways Knowflake Posts: 6623 From: Registered: Oct 2011
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posted January 03, 2014 04:17 PM
Kids have to want to succeed. You can lead the horse to the water. You can't make the horse drink. IP: Logged |
Padre35 Knowflake Posts: 3034 From: Asheville, NC, US Registered: Jul 2012
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posted January 04, 2014 09:27 AM
quote: Originally posted by YoursTrulyAlways: Kids have to want to succeed. You can lead the horse to the water. You can't make the horse drink.
Sort of, much of that comes from a support system that helps them to succeed. To go to your dolphin parenting model the sort of "well let's ask the 3 yr old what they want" is simply insane. Yet I see it happen/have seen it happen. IP: Logged |
Faith Moderator Posts: 6460 From: Registered: Jul 2011
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posted January 04, 2014 09:29 AM
Why NOT ask a three year-old what they want? I guess I'm insane because I ask my 3 year-old what he wants all the time. Like while I'm building a Thomas train set with him, I'm always like, "You want a bridge here or a tunnel? Where shall we put the roundhouse?" IP: Logged |
Padre35 Knowflake Posts: 3034 From: Asheville, NC, US Registered: Jul 2012
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posted January 04, 2014 09:55 AM
quote: Originally posted by Faith: Why NOT ask a three year-old what they want? I guess I'm insane because I ask my 3 year-old what he wants all the time. Like while I'm building a Thomas train set with him, I'm always like, "You want a bridge here or a tunnel? Where shall we put the roundhouse?"
B/c one is the parent and the other child Faith, and the thomas the train set is not what I had in mind, stuff like where do they want to stop to get something to eat, do they want to wear whatever pair of shoes. That sort of parental/child relationship is something of a shrinking thing now, instead of Authority/Subordinate it's partnering to reach consensus. I'd further suggest one ask them why they want "this here and that there" IP: Logged |
Faith Moderator Posts: 6460 From: Registered: Jul 2011
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posted January 04, 2014 10:20 AM
Your suggestion is good, but you wouldn't have given it if you understood just how far I've come in deliberately turning conversations into learning experiences. Sometimes I WILL ask my three year-old where he wants to eat. The lesson is called, "You are a person whose opinion actually matters." I give that same lesson many ways. Unless you've spent a lot of time around young children, you might not be aware of how advanced their thinking is, and how you really need to listen for, and respond to, their genius. My 3 year-old is really brilliant, and if my attitude was that he needed to assume a docile role and meet every developmental goal that I read in a book and systematically laid out for him, we would be wasting his time barking up the wrong trees. There has to be reciprocity, and a lot of it, I believe.
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YoursTrulyAlways Knowflake Posts: 6623 From: Registered: Oct 2011
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posted January 04, 2014 11:13 AM
Hey Faith,Thomas for you!! http://youtu.be/lAHyUVkr8uU http://youtu.be/g5S_2jbL4Lc Don't blame us. We're autistic!
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Faith Moderator Posts: 6460 From: Registered: Jul 2011
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posted January 04, 2014 11:18 AM
!!!We've seen the same performance in Lancaster County (Strasburg Railway.) My son is playing with trains and talking to himself in all the different train voices as I type this. Frankly I think it's time to join him, I'd rather be Gordon than Faith right now. IP: Logged |
Odette Knowflake Posts: 3273 From: Registered: May 2012
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posted January 04, 2014 10:03 PM
Sometimes when I date a guy - he burps.. and I don't understand why anyone would do that. I appreciate good manners.It's just impolite and upsetting.. I mean why do they always have to burp?? Why do men do this????? Why? Oh why? This one time a guy hit on me.. and he was HOT, he had a six pack and pretty blue eyes.. and I thought about doing him in the bathroom of the place we were at - but then he burped and spoiled it all - and I had to reject him. *deep sigh* IP: Logged |
aquaguy91 Moderator Posts: 8230 From: tennessee Registered: Jan 2012
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posted January 04, 2014 10:08 PM
quote: Originally posted by Odette: Sometimes when I date a guy - he burps.. and I don't understand why anyone would do that. I appreciate good manners.It's just impolite and upsetting.. I mean why do they always have to burp?? Why do men do this????? Why? Oh why? This one time a guy hit on me.. and he was HOT, he had a sick pack and pretty blue eyes.. and I thought about doing him in the bathroom of the place we were at - but then he burped and spoiled it all - and I had to reject him. *deep sigh*
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YoursTrulyAlways Knowflake Posts: 6623 From: Registered: Oct 2011
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posted January 04, 2014 10:08 PM
Odette,Wrong thread. This is the parenting thread. But like I said, a subset of men have no manners. No decorum. Unless you are talking about Japanese men, in which case it is culturally acceptable. IP: Logged |
Odette Knowflake Posts: 3273 From: Registered: May 2012
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posted January 04, 2014 10:12 PM
LOL AG!Sorry YTA - but I'm intentionally on the wrong thread - to show Padre & AG what they usually do.. on every thread lol I'll stop... DW. IP: Logged |
Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 50908 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010
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posted January 04, 2014 10:16 PM
B/c one is the parent and the other child Faith ------------------ Want To Ask Any Question About Bible Prophecy? Go For it. It is Free, of course. http://www.mychristianpsychic.com/
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Faith Moderator Posts: 6460 From: Registered: Jul 2011
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posted January 04, 2014 10:55 PM
Any excuse to jab me, Ami.*ANY excuse* Oh and for icing on the cake why not close this thread since I just "got nasty." IP: Logged |
Odette Knowflake Posts: 3273 From: Registered: May 2012
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posted January 04, 2014 10:56 PM
Jab... that word reminds me how this one time - a guy jabbed me with his dong.. in a bar. He was hard and he kept jabbing me. IP: Logged |
Odette Knowflake Posts: 3273 From: Registered: May 2012
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posted January 04, 2014 10:56 PM
Ok.. srsly -- I'll stop.. I'll stop.I couldn't help myself lolll IP: Logged |
Faith Moderator Posts: 6460 From: Registered: Jul 2011
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posted January 04, 2014 10:57 PM
Mmm. It happens. (The jabbing in the bar I meant.) IP: Logged |
PixieJane Moderator Posts: 3542 From: CA Registered: Oct 2010
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posted January 05, 2014 01:15 AM
Thomas the Tank set to Drowning Pool: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7MUzA3RmeIM I don't know why I love that so much but then I often seem to like it when elements (*) get mixed like that. (*I'm sure I could express myself better but probably not until tomorrow, and that may not be possible then. But then most everyone likes to use vague or ambiguous terms and expect everyone else to know what they're talking about anyway so why not?) IP: Logged |
FruitTreeFresh Knowflake Posts: 366 From: Registered: Aug 2013
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posted January 05, 2014 07:59 PM
quote: Originally posted by YoursTrulyAlways: We are blessed with an older one who has been outright cooperative and compliant. I have a younger one who is going to be much more of a challenge because he is fiesty and talks back.
I am the younger one and yes I talk back. I could see through my parents' motives thousand miles away and Kero, they are manipulative too. Both are Scorpios but I have Scorpio ascendant. Talk about power control haha. IP: Logged |
Padre35 Knowflake Posts: 3034 From: Asheville, NC, US Registered: Jul 2012
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posted January 05, 2014 08:04 PM
quote: Originally posted by PixieJane: Thomas the Tank set to Drowning Pool: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7MUzA3RmeIM I don't know why I love that so much but then I often seem to like it when elements (*) get mixed like that. (*I'm sure I could express myself better but probably not until tomorrow, and that may not be possible then. But then most everyone likes to use vague or ambiguous terms and expect everyone else to know what they're talking about anyway so why not?)
And I thought *I* was discordant! Awesome! To the OP's point, that is fine, from my pov tho there are parents and there are children who eventually will be adults and the parents job is to shepherd them to that stage from the way I see it. IP: Logged |
YoursTrulyAlways Knowflake Posts: 6623 From: Registered: Oct 2011
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posted January 05, 2014 11:57 PM
Shepherd? I pity whichever girl wants to date my son. She'll have to deal with the resume submission and hardcore interview of a boyfriend's mother. Qualification standards are enormously high! And if she somehow manages to get the ring on her finger, then she'll have larger problems on her hands because now the woman has reverted to mother-in-law!! I've got two mama's boys!! IP: Logged |
teasel Knowflake Posts: 5903 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted January 06, 2014 12:02 AM
quote: Originally posted by Odette: LOL AG!Sorry YTA - but I'm intentionally on the wrong thread - to show Padre & AG what they usually do.. on every thread lol I'll stop... DW.
Oh, I wondered what that was about. I was going to say something, too. IP: Logged |
FruitTreeFresh Knowflake Posts: 366 From: Registered: Aug 2013
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posted January 06, 2014 06:06 AM
quote: Originally posted by YoursTrulyAlways: Shepherd? I pity whichever girl wants to date my son. She'll have to deal with the resume submission and hardcore interview of a boyfriend's mother. Qualification standards are enormously high! And if she somehow manages to get the ring on her finger, then she'll have larger problems on her hands because now the woman has reverted to mother-in-law!! I've got two mama's boys!!
Have you pre-screen the candidates? IP: Logged |