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LovelyAries86
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posted February 19, 2014 07:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LovelyAries86     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Oh I heart this post.

Sigh, I want moarrrrr people like this around lol.


Aww!

*sends good vibes your way*

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Ami Anne
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posted February 19, 2014 08:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks 12 Muddy
I got through it and made some kind of big stride where I am not afraid of jealousy any more, I think.
It may not be all gone but some of it is anyway lol

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posted February 20, 2014 02:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

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posted February 20, 2014 04:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for dadoo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I suffer from people's jealousy quite often, and I can't seem to get used to it because I can't figure out why on earth one would be jealous of me. Jealousy itself I can understand, but towards me?
I have failed so often. I struggle so much with so many things. And usually it comes from people who have made it much better than me in all areas, personal, social, financial and so on...

I never say or do anything in the end. I wonder if it's Saturn in Cancer and its bad habit of not wanting to accept that not everyone's an angel.
Anyway, I can't think of an appropriate answer because I just don't grasp what's happening. I mean, I can see and feel I'm under attack but it just doesn't make any sense to me.

I just feel grateful I'm not like these people.
It must be a sad life to be so bitter.

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posted February 20, 2014 06:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Randall:


Thank you, Randall!

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Ami Anne
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posted February 20, 2014 06:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by dadoo:
I suffer from people's jealousy quite often, and I can't seem to get used to it because I can't figure out why on earth one would be jealous of me. Jealousy itself I can understand, but towards me?
I have failed so often. I struggle so much with so many things. And usually it comes from people who have made it much better than me in all areas, personal, social, financial and so on...

I never say or do anything in the end. I wonder if it's Saturn in Cancer and its bad habit of not wanting to accept that not everyone's an angel.
Anyway, I can't think of an appropriate answer because I just don't grasp what's happening. I mean, I can see and feel I'm under attack but it just doesn't make any sense to me.

I just feel grateful I'm not like these people.
It must be a sad life to be so bitter.


Thank you Dadoo. I think I managed to walk away from this part of me that was so afraid of jealousy. Going through it takes some of it's power away. I guess that is an adage in life lol

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posted February 21, 2014 08:36 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I think it is a lot scarier to be and act confident than to act insecure. You don't get people hurting you when you act insecure. What do you guys think?

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posted February 25, 2014 11:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for arcturiann     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
I think it is a lot scarier to be and act confident than to act insecure. You don't get people hurting you when you act insecure. What do you guys think?


I tend to get more flack from people when I act insecure. If I act insecure, they think its okay to walk all over me. I have had to learn to put up walls and an exterior that displays authoritarian confidence in order to rectify my natural tendency towards passivity and compliance with people (SN in 7th)

It's scarier to be confident when it is a defense mechanism like that, you don't want people to figure out that you are indeed insecure. What I have found is that after many years of actively wearing that confidence mask, it eventually became a part of me naturally.

If someone is acting jealous towards me in a malicious way, I find one of the best ways to deal with it is to make them even more jealous on purpose to exploit their jealousy in a way that says to them "I know you are jealous of this and this is why you hate me". Usually people get so angry at this that they stop whatever obvious jealous behavior they were doing out of the embarrassment of being called out. If that doesn't work, I usually try to get other people involved to try and make a spectacle of them while it occurs.

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posted February 26, 2014 08:34 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Great post, Acturian. So much wisdom. Thank you!

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posted February 26, 2014 10:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Sibyl     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
I think it is a lot scarier to be and act confident than to act insecure. You don't get people hurting you when you act insecure. What do you guys think?


Wow. I think you are 100% dead wrong. When you act insecure people take it as their cue to walk all over you. I see it happening all the time. It becomes a vicious circle for the insecure person.

Who would mess with a confident person? They would think it was a lost cause.

I find that insecure people often seek validation from others. It creates a dependency and gives power to the people you are seeking validation from, be it strangers or friends. This again creates an unstable dynamic that a manipulative person can exploit.

Please don't open yourself up to that kind of exploitation and disrespect. It's easy, really...

Just

# Never ever speak about yourself in derogatory words, and don't accept it from others. No more "I'm fat", or "ugly" or "useless" or "stupid" or "boring", or any other thing that you may tell yourself that is simply not true. If people tell you it is, tell them just how wrong they are in no uncertain terms.

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posted February 26, 2014 10:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Sibyl     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by arcturiann:
I tend to get more flack from people when I act insecure. If I act insecure, they think its okay to walk all over me. I have had to learn to put up walls and an exterior that displays authoritarian confidence in order to rectify my natural tendency towards passivity and compliance with people (SN in 7th)

It's scarier to be confident when it is a defense mechanism like that, you don't want people to figure out that you are indeed insecure. What I have found is that after many years of actively wearing that confidence mask, it eventually became a part of me naturally.

If someone is acting jealous towards me in a malicious way, I find one of the best ways to deal with it is to make them even more jealous on purpose to exploit their jealousy in a way that says to them "I know you are jealous of this and this is why you hate me". Usually people get so angry at this that they stop whatever obvious jealous behavior they were doing out of the embarrassment of being called out. If that doesn't work, I usually try to get other people involved to try and make a spectacle of them while it occurs.


Good for you!! I agree completely.

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Ami Anne
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posted March 03, 2014 10:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I was really happy. I got attacked today and I walked away. I didn't care. I see that I can control a potential fight but just not getting into it.
The person was salivating for me to come in and I ignored.
This has been a looooong time coming

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posted March 05, 2014 12:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MoonWitch     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I used to have a big problem with jealousy against me - especially with the advent of the internet. I used to be a complete open book and that opened me up to a lot of criticism and attacks. I try not to over share the GOOD stuff anymore online and that's curbed a lot of it. Even on my Facebook - For instance, I'd like to share links to houses we're looking at now but I don't because I don't know how people will react.

It sort of sucks because I've always been one that wants to share my joys.

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posted March 05, 2014 04:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for YoursTrulyAlways     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm a target of this nonsense on a daily basis. I do my best to emulate the success of others and ignore those who can't handle success. Confidence is a state of mind and success is contagious.

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posted March 05, 2014 04:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by YoursTrulyAlways:
I'm a target of this nonsense on a daily basis. I do my best to emulate the success of others and ignore those who can't handle success. Confidence is a state of mind and success is contagious.


I am realizing that it was an irrational fear, really, because it can't hurt me if I keep my side of the street clean. Thanks for you input, Ian

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posted March 07, 2014 01:53 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LovelyAries86     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Wow. I think you are 100% dead wrong. When you act insecure people take it as their cue to walk all over you. I see it happening all the time. It becomes a vicious circle for the insecure person.


Absolutely. Is this our Moon-opposite-Mars aspect speaking for us?!

We all will be tested by ignorant people at some point in our lives. It's just that some folks will be tested more than others - "insecurity" being the main reason for this.

When you're confident...some people may hate you (usually out of envy) but they generally hate on you in PRIVATE instead of out in the OPEN. They sense your boundaries and don't test you as much!

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posted March 07, 2014 01:57 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LovelyAries86     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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I'm a target of this nonsense on a daily basis. I do my best to emulate the success of others and ignore those who can't handle success. Confidence is a state of mind and success is contagious.


Hi YTA!

So are you the target of jealously? Or the target of bullying?

Confidence is the deciding factor between *which* one we experience more often.

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posted March 07, 2014 07:25 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Sibyl     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by LovelyAries86:
Absolutely. Is this our Moon-opposite-Mars aspect speaking for us?!

We all will be tested by ignorant people at some point in our lives. It's just that some folks will be tested more than others - "insecurity" being the main reason for this.

When you're confident...some people may hate you (usually out of envy) but they generally hate on you in PRIVATE instead of out in the OPEN. They sense your boundaries and don't test you as much!


Exactly! Haha.

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Ami Anne
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posted March 07, 2014 08:19 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I think in order to deal with things like this, you have to face them head on. If you achieve anything that others admire, people who can't do it or feel they can't, will be jealous of you and want to take shots at you. I can walk away 95% of the time. This is a skill that I learned on here.That is why I hate to see newcomers leave.If one does not learn these kind of life lessons, one must hide away. I tried that and it doesn't work. You just get crazier

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posted March 07, 2014 08:21 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for YoursTrulyAlways     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by LovelyAries86:

Hi YTA!

So are you the target of jealously? Or the target of bullying?

Confidence is the deciding factor between *which* one we experience more often.


Hi!

Target of crap. Same thing for my sons.

Confidence is the perception others have of you.

I just go on doing my thing: kicking ass and taking no prisoners. My record speaks for itself. My son's record is longer than what most people can achieve in a lifetime.

Some call it arrogance. Some call that confidence. I call that survival.

I pretty much couldn't care less what others think of me. Those who respect me will continue to respect me. Those who don't can kiss my ass.

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posted March 07, 2014 09:48 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I think basically, everything is learning to deal with your own ego and having it in it's proper place. This one lesson is so hard and takes so long to learn just a smidgeon

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posted March 08, 2014 09:18 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I finally got some traction on this. If I keep my side of the street clean, then the haters can't get to me

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posted March 11, 2014 02:58 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LovelyAries86     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by YoursTrulyAlways:

I pretty much couldn't care less what others think of me. Those who respect me will continue to respect me. Those who don't can kiss my ass.


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posted March 11, 2014 02:59 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LovelyAries86     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
If I keep my side of the street clean, then the haters can't get to me


Keep your side clean by throwing all your trash at the haters.

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posted March 11, 2014 06:33 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

They seem to be getting what is coming to them.

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