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Ami Anne
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posted February 09, 2014 10:36 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Have you had it? Tell me about it. What did it do to you? What was the outcome. Thanks!

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Ami Anne
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posted February 09, 2014 02:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I guess, to start, I have had a lot of jealousy come at me, lately.

I mean last week, I could barely breathe. It was so heavy on my chest.

My heart was breaking for the flawed state of the human condition, not that I am not the same.

However, yesterday, a person attacked me and I was very calm. I did not attack back. I gave a rational response and the person did not know what to do, so he shut up.

The upshot is that I am not that afraid of jealousy any more. I used to be deathly, deathly afraid of it because my mother was very jealous of me and that very, very scary to me because I did not know what she would do.

I wanted to hide under the radar for fear of it. Eventually, I could not come out and shine because I carried the fear with me.

Each person who attacks me takes away that fear a bit more until it has gone away to some extent and maybe even a large extent.

It is not all gone because of all the years I have had it but it has really reduced.

What can something really do to me by jealousy? If you think about it, unless they get physical, they can't do much.

It is amazing how conditioning stops us from living our lives. We are in a prison of it and really don't know how to get out.

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posted February 09, 2014 03:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Padre35     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

Well ami, many times jealousy is more perception then reality

I have a weird mix, I'm rarely noticed or spoken of, but welcomed when I do bother to show up

One night, out of the blue, a guy tried to kick me in the balls, I kinda laughed at him and criticized his efforts, he tried 3 times to donkey kick me, missed every time was to busy laughing at him to do much else

Suppose it all came from jealousy, or perhaps he was drunk and coked up, when I asked him later WTH he was doing he merely looked down and said he was not himself

I suppose that is my reaction to jealousy

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posted February 09, 2014 05:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kerosene     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Right?
Yeah I think jealousy is a self perception too

I noticed the best way to avoid having people attack you is to take yourself less seriously.
Just be yourself, don't put up a perfect mask all the time.
Others can be really annoyed by this because they will feel threatened in that you're trying to hide something.
If you have a huge wall up than people will want to break it down because... it's fun lol.

I think everyon e

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Ami Anne
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posted February 09, 2014 08:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I figured out my situation. Once you can write about it, it is on the way to being healed.

Jealousy is a painful emotion for me to experience. It really bothers me and I find it hard to blow off.

However, I think I have gotten to the point where I can and hence have managed to overcome some longstanding issues.

Thanks K and Padre!

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posted February 09, 2014 08:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
There are other layers here. I was afraid to shine as a teen because I was afraid of being hurt by my mother for out shining her.

I took that fear on. Some people will try to hurt people they feel outshine them. Yet, that is just how it is.

I think it is a fear of success. Success brings challenges and one is the resentment of people who wish they could do it but can't/won't

At any rate, I think I managed to walk a bit more toward my goals of being who I am, without needing permission of anyone.

It is a process. I can't say it is 1-2 -3 because it is not.

Anyway, thanks for listening. I appreciate it!

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posted February 13, 2014 10:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Jealousy is an indication you are doing something right--as long as one chooses humbleness over pride.

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Ami Anne
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posted February 14, 2014 08:36 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Randall:
Jealousy is an indication you are doing something right--as long as one chooses humbleness over pride.

You are so wise, Randall and one of the finest people I have ever had the blessing to know!

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posted February 14, 2014 04:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for YoursTrulyAlways     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ami,

In the whole scheme of things, none of it matters. Mind over matter. If you don't mind, they don't matter.

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posted February 14, 2014 05:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by YoursTrulyAlways:
Ami,

In the whole scheme of things, none of it matters. Mind over matter. If you don't mind, they don't matter.



That's true, Ian, but in the meantime, it's a mean time

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posted February 14, 2014 07:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Odette     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
If I care about the person and want them in my life then I would deal with this by being more encouraging, reassuring and opening up about my own flaws and insecurities - so that they don't feel threatened.
This works sometimes.. but not always. Some peoples self esteem is so shattered you can't help them heal, even if you want to.
It worked with the last girl who was envious and jealous. We are friends now.

If I had issues with the person in question. If I already had a negative opinion of them and they seemed toxic to me.. then I wouldn't want to interact with them. Generally I just avoid them. If I absolutely must interact.. I'm cordial but detached.

A person who gets intensely jealous of others is usually in denial and unrealistic. They don't appreciate their own life, their own good and bad points--- and they don't realize that we are all human and everyone has their own problems.

One thing I have learnt is... don't let their jealousy affect you by making you feel guilty for the things you have.
I would even apply this in the worst case scenarios.. in scenarios where the person might be entitled to feel jealous and it might even seem cruel, heartless or cold for you not to experience guilt... eg a person who is much poorer envying your financial status.
You can feel sympathy for a person and for their situation. If you want and can - you can help them on a practical level.. But there is absolutely no reason whatsoever why you should ever feel guilty for the person you are, the things you have and your achievements.

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posted February 14, 2014 07:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Odette     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
^^ Because the envious/jealous bunny is a close cousin of the guilt-trip artist

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posted February 14, 2014 11:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Padre35     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

Eh, my approach is to agree and amplify, or simply ignore, it takes the wind out of the sails of the whole bit.

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posted February 15, 2014 08:39 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Odette
You have so many things I admire. I know a person cannot have everything in his chart but I wish I was more grounded like you are.

I am an earth void and I find it hard to just accept practical things. Your Cappy moon is very grounding on the earth.

Your fire gives a self confidence. I have 2 planets in fire only. They are not personal planets.

I admire a lot about you

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posted February 15, 2014 08:39 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you, Padre, my Bro. You know I adore you

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posted February 15, 2014 11:33 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Sibyl     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
When someone is jealous of me I always work to build up their self-confidence. First of all it eventually makes them incapable of disliking me and so some of the negative feelings associated with jealousy are negated. Secondly it builds their ego and makes them less jealous people.

Jealousy is not really something I participate in. I'm very detached and it just seems so draining. I can't really think of anyone I'm jealous of either, I'm quite content. I may be envious of someone with a nice home or cute cat or whatever, but it is a very fleeting emotion. More like a remark to myself that "I want that too, I'll add it to my goals".

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posted February 15, 2014 11:56 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Put your chart up, Sibyl

I want to see a well balanced person

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posted February 16, 2014 05:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Sibyl     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted February 16, 2014 11:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I can't read that style, My Friend. If you feel like getting the AStro.com style, I would be able to read that.

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posted February 17, 2014 10:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
As far as this subject, I have not had anyone attack me in about a week. I think it is because I don't attack back. I have learned to be calm. I am strong and calm and the person looks bad

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posted February 18, 2014 03:06 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LovelyAries86     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Ami Anne:
Some people will try to hurt people they feel outshine them. Yet, that is just how it is.

I think it is a fear of success. Success brings challenges and one is the resentment of people who wish they could do it but can't/won't



quote:
Originally posted by Randall:
Jealousy is an indication you are doing something right--as long as one chooses humbleness over pride.

I approve of ^^ both replies above.

I've learned in my 27 years that when you live your life with joy, peace, and a go-getter attitude...there will always be haters in the background who wish that they had your life. But who exactly is stopping them from having these same things?? Nobody but themselves!! So I usually laugh them off and treat them like the irrelevant little children that they are. I'm not going to waste ANY of my energy on you baby, sorry for your luck. *says a prayer for you*

Ex: I've been rather popular at my job. I truly dig all of my co-workers and vice versa. But I realized recently that the new HR Manager is very jealous of me. I don't feel like going into detail now, but the woman is just a sad nutcase!! I'm not AT ALL threatened by her, fooled by her, or phased by her antics. So she's p*ssed about it !! Please get a life you are too old for this nonsense.

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posted February 18, 2014 01:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you LA

How is your mother doing?

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posted February 18, 2014 11:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LovelyAries86     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
Thank you LA

How is your mother doing?


She's fine for now. We're in the process of getting her through speech therapy to see where it goes. We know it's going to take time - but we have high hopes for her!

Thank you for asking Ami.

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Originally posted by LovelyAries86:
I've learned in my 27 years that when you live your life with joy, peace, and a go-getter attitude...there will always be haters in the background who wish that they had your life. But who exactly is stopping them from having these same things?? Nobody but themselves!! So I usually laugh them off and treat them like the irrelevant little children that they are. I'm not going to waste ANY of my energy on you baby, sorry for your luck. *says a prayer for you*

Ex: I've been rather popular at my job. I truly dig all of my co-workers and vice versa. But I realized recently that the new HR Manager is very jealous of me. I don't feel like going into detail now, but the woman is just a sad nutcase!! I'm not AT ALL threatened by her, fooled by her, or phased by her antics. So she's p*ssed about it !! Please get a life you are too old for this nonsense.


Oh I heart this post.

Sigh, I want moarrrrr people like this around lol.

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posted February 19, 2014 01:26 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for 12muddy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
Have you had it? Tell me about it. What did it do to you? What was the outcome. Thanks!



I used to be pretty annoyed - they inspired all sorts of graphic, violent thoughts, I won't go into details here lol. But now mostly I'm like mehhh...

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