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Topic: The Hunger Games
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FireMoon unregistered
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posted March 22, 2014 08:55 PM
I probably shouldn't even start this topic lol but just curious to hear opinions on whether you think these movies/books are metaphorical for things actually going on in society...I'm surprised it even became popular but my impression is most people don't think it's that interesting beyond the actual story IP: Logged |
Sibyl Knowflake Posts: 927 From: Uranus Registered: Dec 2010
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posted March 22, 2014 09:49 PM
I love the books actually. I absolutely love the character development from the first to the last book. For someone who has experienced tragedy I can really relate. I don't want to spoil the ending for anyone, but... I thought that final tragic loss at the end of the third book and Katniss' reflections over society moving on was beautiful. She was also resourceful and determined to survive. The ending illustrates the meaninglessness of her sacrifices and determination. She lived, but not as the person she set out as.I do think the books give some very important reflections on society and how we move on from our tragedies. The books show that although our children should be allowed to grow up in innocence of our sordid past and violence, it is important never to forget... In fact, forgetting becomes impossible because tragedy changes who you are. The danger arises when enough time passes and we start falling back into the same patterns. IP: Logged |
PixieJane Knowflake Posts: 9918 From: CA Registered: Oct 2010
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posted March 22, 2014 10:06 PM
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posted March 22, 2014 11:31 PM
Honestly my mar in aries loves it HA.I imagine myself being a glamorously dressed district 1 tribute and slaying everyone with my stratagems. I mean honestly I'm the perfect antagonist for tween series..
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12muddy Knowflake Posts: 3075 From: Registered: Feb 2013
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posted March 22, 2014 11:50 PM
Yes I do think that they're based on what's going on in society. I think that's why they became popular, people can relate to them. What I notice the most is social class separation theme. kinda reminds me a bit of my past observations. I've only read the 1st book though, not really my favourite, probably won't continue. IP: Logged |
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posted March 22, 2014 11:53 PM
Yeah since the in the future generations bigotry will be less based on race, gender and sexuality. More about class and status.IP: Logged |
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posted March 23, 2014 07:29 AM
Thank you guys for your responses! I'll respond more on depth later today... quote: Originally posted by 12muddy: Yes I do think that they're based on what's going on in society. I think that's why they became popular, people can relate to them. What I notice the most is social class separation theme. kinda reminds me a bit of my past observations. I've only read the 1st book though, not really my favourite, probably won't continue.
12muddy, this is how I felt about them too. People can relate but don't see a way out, maybe it's to rub it in people's faces? Idk I haven't read the books so can't comment on that but why not continue? IP: Logged |
12muddy Knowflake Posts: 3075 From: Registered: Feb 2013
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posted March 23, 2014 10:43 AM
Firemoon, "rubbing it in people's faces" is a good way to put it. After I read about the setting of the death game, my immediate thought was "Aren't we all competing in a colossal arena?" I think it also has a political meaning. One wealthy "city" gets rich by exploiting other poor ones - sounds a bit like how countries were made into "colonies", by one method or another. Also sounds like how sweatshops make use of child labour n cheap labour....etc... I think the book is interesting, the characters are described in details and as it goes on you sorta can see the shifts/changes in their thoughts, views n personalities. The characters are caught in a such a gripping situation. The things they have to do seem so much the "norms", they don't know that it can be challenged (well Katnip n her guy did challenge the rules in the end of the 1st book). I don't think the writing flows well - as if I know anything about writing lol but yeah, that's one thing I dislike about the book.
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posted March 23, 2014 02:03 PM
quote: Originally posted by PixieJane: Generally speaking, my observation is that most adults compare it to somewhat similar movies years ago (as if you can't do that with just about any movie, and it's funny when those who say HG was a ripoff of BR are themselves told BR was a ripoff...
Whatevs. Battle Royale is a BETTER rip-off of Lord of the Flies than Hunger Games. Shorter, too. IP: Logged |
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posted March 26, 2014 01:03 AM
quote: Originally posted by 12muddy: Firemoon, "rubbing it in people's faces" is a good way to put it. After I read about the setting of the death game, my immediate thought was "Aren't we all competing in a colossal arena?" I think it also has a political meaning. One wealthy "city" gets rich by exploiting other poor ones - sounds a bit like how countries were made into "colonies", by one method or another. Also sounds like how sweatshops make use of child labour n cheap labour....etc... I think the book is interesting, the characters are described in details and as it goes on you sorta can see the shifts/changes in their thoughts, views n personalities. The characters are caught in a such a gripping situation. The things they have to do seem so much the "norms", they don't know that it can be challenged (well Katnip n her guy did challenge the rules in the end of the 1st book). I don't think the writing flows well - as if I know anything about writing lol but yeah, that's one thing I dislike about the book.
Yes exactly! I also think it's very political. Colonialism set a framework of wealth/political power that still very much exists today internationally. The "games" are broadcasted to the wealthy for entertainment and everyone is thrown into the arena as if it's an equal playing field, although the reality of the situation should be obvious. Yet the whole premise is that fear doesn't work as a tactic of manipulation unless there's also hope. Everyone loves an underdog comeback story (Katniss and Peeta from district 12) which is why it's played up in the coverage/media... But if ppl start thinking the rules can be broken and there can be more than one winner the Capitol won't tolerate it. Anyway I think maybe it was marketed as a kid/teenage story about "growing up" to send the message that that kind of thinking/resistance is just a "youthful illusion"... But there are so many metaphors I don't even know where to start lol. Sorry it's taken me so long to get back to this, just wanted to say I agree!
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teasel Knowflake Posts: 32208 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted March 11, 2021 09:24 PM
Did you read the fourth book? I was hooked on the books, when I finally started to read them, December 2010-early 2011. IP: Logged |
Chanterelle Knowflake Posts: 849 From: USA Registered: Sep 2020
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posted March 12, 2021 06:11 AM
I don’t think I even knew there was a fourth book! I guess at this point I would have to go back and re-read all the others first. There’s another similar series, minus the reality-TV-show angle, that my daughter was reading about a year ago that was pretty good, but I can’t remember the name of it right now. It’s sort of like Hunger Games crossed with that M. Night Shyamalan movie, The Village.IP: Logged |
teasel Knowflake Posts: 32208 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted June 27, 2021 11:54 PM
quote: Originally posted by Chanterelle: I don’t think I even knew there was a fourth book! I guess at this point I would have to go back and re-read all the others first. There’s another similar series, minus the reality-TV-show angle, that my daughter was reading about a year ago that was pretty good, but I can’t remember the name of it right now. It’s sort of like Hunger Games crossed with that M. Night Shyamalan movie, The Village.
I found out about the fourth, not long before it was released, so I pre-ordered it. I rarely do that, but it's nice to have a book just arrive, on the day it's released. Like a treat.  IP: Logged |
teasel Knowflake Posts: 32208 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted June 29, 2025 12:38 AM
There’s a fifth book now. Sunrise on the Reaping. IP: Logged |
Randall Webmaster Posts: 209049 From: I hold a Juris Doctorate (J.D.) and a Legum Magister (LL.M.)! Registered: Apr 2009
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posted July 07, 2025 06:27 PM
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Dumuzi Knowflake Posts: 4283 From: Registered: Oct 2018
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posted August 13, 2025 11:07 PM
I just assumed they were Battle Royale inspired. IP: Logged |
Randall Webmaster Posts: 209049 From: I hold a Juris Doctorate (J.D.) and a Legum Magister (LL.M.)! Registered: Apr 2009
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posted August 18, 2025 08:29 AM
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teasel Knowflake Posts: 32208 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted August 18, 2025 06:20 PM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Hunger_Games Origins Collins says she drew inspiration for the series from both classical and contemporary sources. Her main classical source of inspiration is the Greek myth of Theseus and the Minotaur, in which, as a punishment for past crimes, Minos forces Athens to sacrifice seven youths and seven maidens to the Minotaur, which kills them in a vast labyrinth. Collins says that even as a child, she was stunned by the idea since "it was just so cruel" to force Athens to sacrifice its own children. Collins also cites as a classical inspiration the Roman gladiator games. She feels three key elements create a good game: an all powerful and ruthless government, people forced to fight to the death, and the game's role as a source of popular entertainment.[16] A contemporary source of inspiration was Collins' recent fascination with reality television programs. She says they are like The Hunger Games because the Games are not just entertainment but also a reminder to the districts of their rebellion. Collins says that while she was channel-surfing the television on a quiet night, she saw people competing for a prize and then saw footage of the Iraq War. She described how the two combined in an "unsettling way" to create her first ideas for the series.[17] IP: Logged |
Randall Webmaster Posts: 209049 From: I hold a Juris Doctorate (J.D.) and a Legum Magister (LL.M.)! Registered: Apr 2009
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posted August 22, 2025 04:11 PM
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Randall Webmaster Posts: 209049 From: I hold a Juris Doctorate (J.D.) and a Legum Magister (LL.M.)! Registered: Apr 2009
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posted August 24, 2025 08:14 PM
I never saw the last movie.IP: Logged |