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Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 53600 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010	posted April 01, 2014 09:14 AM Thanks for any answers. ------------------ Want To Ask Any Question About Bible Prophecy? Go For it. It is Free, of course. http://www.mychristianpsychic.com/ IP: Logged
Sibyl Knowflake Posts: 389 From: Uranus Registered: Dec 2010	posted April 01, 2014 09:20 AM I think it is helplessness. IP: Logged
Sibyl Knowflake Posts: 389 From: Uranus Registered: Dec 2010	posted April 01, 2014 09:31 AM Or maybe it is both. Rage directed inward causes depression because of the sense of helplessness it instills? Not being able to properly direct anger. This article seems to support your idea the idea that depression is rage; http://apt.rcpsych.org/content/15/4/271.full (Fredric Busch, Anger and Depression (2009) The Abstract reads: "A series of psychoanalytic theorists and clinicians have suggested that conflicts about anger play a central role in the development of depression. Research data have supported the notion that patients struggle with the experience and expression of angry feelings. Anger in people with depression often stems from narcissistic vulnerability, a sensitivity to perceived or actual loss or rejection. These angry reactions cause intrapsychic conflicts through the onset of guilt and the fear that angry feelings will disrupt relationships. These conflicts lead to anger being directed inwards, further lowering self-esteem, creating a vicious cycle. Defence mechanisms that are triggered, including passive aggression, reaction formation, denial and identification with the aggressor, are ineffective at managing these conflicts and further prevent the appropriate expression of anger. This article discusses how to identify and detoxify angry feelings and fantasies using a psychodynamic approach." It appears that anger directed towards the self can offset a depression. When you are unable to properly project it outwards and instead repress it, it simmers and drowns you on the inside. IP: Logged
MoonWitch Moderator Posts: 1330 From: The Beach Registered: Apr 2009	posted April 01, 2014 01:01 PM I think many cases of depression are chemical issues in the brain. IP: Logged
Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 53600 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010	posted April 01, 2014 01:08 PM This is super controversial and I don't want to have arguments but I don't really agree with the biochem basis, in most instances. I think it is more thinking negative and hopeless thoughts and that makes for the depression. I think the biochemical model is a quick fix for the medical community but that aside, I am interested in all opinions. ------------------ Want To Ask Any Question About Bible Prophecy? Go For it. It is Free, of course. http://www.mychristianpsychic.com/ IP: Logged
MoonWitch Moderator Posts: 1330 From: The Beach Registered: Apr 2009	posted April 01, 2014 01:14 PM Disagreeing does not have to equal an argument. I've just dealt with enough friends' suicides (too many) and people with clinical depression in my life to believe the way that I do. I think some people are just born with an imbalance of some kind. Although, I also think some forms of depression can come from anger, helplessness, sadness or inability/refusal to learn lessons from life experiences. IP: Logged
FireMoon Knowflake Posts: 1488 From: Minnesota Registered: Mar 2012	posted April 01, 2014 05:07 PM .. IP: Logged
Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 53600 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010	posted April 01, 2014 05:15 PM FM I think I am coming out of it for the 1st time since I was 14. I got back with my parents and I am seeing that I talk trash to myself Just knowing that I am doing it makes me feel hopeful. ------------------ Want To Ask Any Question About Bible Prophecy? Go For it. It is Free, of course. http://www.mychristianpsychic.com/ IP: Logged
FireMoon Knowflake Posts: 1488 From: Minnesota Registered: Mar 2012	posted April 01, 2014 05:37 PM You should feel hopeful. It's amazing how different life can seem... Depression feels so real at the time but it's not if that makes sense lol. I get what you mean about "doing it yourself". I used to feel the same way but I've been through this twice (first time when saturn was transiting my 12th, second time when tPluto was conjunct my mercury) and I just literally can't afford to throw everything to sh*t right now and wait it out so idk... But I've heard so many horror stories of meds actually making it worse tho so I still am hesitant with that IP: Logged
Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 53600 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010	posted April 01, 2014 06:00 PM No one knows what meds really do, even the doctors and the manufacturers. ------------------ Want To Ask Any Question About Bible Prophecy? Go For it. It is Free, of course. http://www.mychristianpsychic.com/ IP: Logged
FireMoon Knowflake Posts: 1488 From: Minnesota Registered: Mar 2012	posted April 01, 2014 06:24 PM Yeah I don't trust it either... Both my parents are highly medicated and they are not what I would describe as mentally stable. (I also find it funny they consider that "normal") Personally I just prefer recreational substances but that's not the answer either lol IP: Logged
Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 53600 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010	posted April 01, 2014 06:33 PM quote: Originally posted by FireMoon: Yeah I don't trust it either... Both my parents are highly medicated and they are not what I would describe as mentally stable. (I also find it funny they consider that "normal") Personally I just prefer recreational substances but that's not the answer either lol I would trust pot and alcohol in small doses to pharma. Pot and alcohol are made by God ------------------ Want To Ask Any Question About Bible Prophecy? Go For it. It is Free, of course. http://www.mychristianpsychic.com/ IP: Logged
FireMoon Knowflake Posts: 1488 From: Minnesota Registered: Mar 2012	posted April 01, 2014 06:47 PM quote: Originally posted by Ami Anne: I would trust pot and alcohol in small doses to pharma. Pot and alcohol are made by God Haha I agree with you on that Drinking can get out of hand tho... I've been thinking I should switch back to smoking weed (in moderation of course), life was smooth sailing those days... Cause yeah Neptune square moon transit there's no way around it really, it's just picking my poison at this point without landing myself in rehab lol IP: Logged
Jo B Knowflake Posts: 257 From: Registered: Feb 2014	posted April 01, 2014 07:38 PM I wouldn't say depression is necessarily rage. I think it's often more a sign of being strong for too long combined with difficult circumstances. I'm opposed to anti-depressants too. It's just a band-aid and doesn't solve the issue in the long term. IP: Logged
Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 53600 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010	posted April 01, 2014 07:53 PM quote: Originally posted by Jo B: I wouldn't say depression is necessarily rage. I think it's often more a sign of being strong for too long combined with difficult circumstances. I'm opposed to anti-depressants too. It's just a band-aid and doesn't solve the issue in the long term. Well said, my Friend. ------------------ Want To Ask Any Question About Bible Prophecy? Go For it. It is Free, of course. http://www.mychristianpsychic.com/ IP: Logged
CatMote Knowflake Posts: 699 From: Fighting Neptune for his trident Registered: Apr 2013	posted April 01, 2014 08:36 PM i think rage is a symptom of depression. i think an intense and uncontrollable feeling of helplessness makes on depressed and rage at yourself and the world for putting you there. ------------------ "Perhaps there are new plateaus to reach, even greater heights to which I must ascend." IP: Logged
Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 53600 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010	posted April 01, 2014 08:47 PM quote: Originally posted by CatMote: i think rage is a symptom of depression. i think an intense and uncontrollable feeling of helplessness makes on depressed and rage at yourself and the world for putting you there. Did you see the Birthday thread I did for you ------------------ Want To Ask Any Question About Bible Prophecy? Go For it. It is Free, of course. http://www.mychristianpsychic.com/ IP: Logged
Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 53600 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010	posted April 01, 2014 08:59 PM http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum25/HTML/004677.html ------------------ Want To Ask Any Question About Bible Prophecy? Go For it. It is Free, of course. http://www.mychristianpsychic.com/ IP: Logged
DeepFreeze Knowflake Posts: 1404 From: Pluto with Barbiegirl19 Registered: Nov 2013	posted April 01, 2014 10:42 PM I can tell you without question I have felt both together. As for the chicken or the egg... Idk. Well I guess to answer specifically... No. Depression and rage are separate. Just often go hand in hand. IP: Logged
Odette Knowflake Posts: 3870 From: Registered: May 2012	posted April 01, 2014 11:07 PM Depression feels to me like apathy with hints of cynicism and melancholy... not rage.. But I guess it can vary from person to person or from time to time. IP: Logged
DeepFreeze Knowflake Posts: 1404 From: Pluto with Barbiegirl19 Registered: Nov 2013	posted April 01, 2014 11:21 PM quote: Originally posted by Odette: Depression feels to me like apathy with hints of cynicism and melancholy... not rage.. But I guess it can vary from person to person or from time to time. Yep! Sometimes if I feel depressed, I'm of course not myself and if someone reacts poorly to me it may spark some rage feelings but they still might remain hidden. (probably my Mars in 12?) I will fantasize my rage. Anyway.... Sometimes it might be lack of an outlet, etc. IP: Logged
StarlightSmileSupreme Knowflake Posts: 8177 From: neptune Registered: Nov 2012	posted April 02, 2014 03:14 AM Depression is lack of energy, looking glum, physical discomfort (sometimes) and having the urge to cry often. It can mean a preoccupation with suicide. Rage isn't a part of depression. Anger could be a disorder unto itself. Not sure if anyone calls it one but it could easily be described that way. IP: Logged
Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 53600 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010	posted April 02, 2014 08:37 AM For me, I think depression was feeling powerless to define myself and defend myself. I think it was feeling I had not right to personhood. I think it was not being able to get angry and feel it and show it. I think it was kind of s self shut down like you would shut down a machine. ------------------ Want To Ask Any Question About Bible Prophecy? Go For it. It is Free, of course. http://www.mychristianpsychic.com/ IP: Logged
Desiring Shadows Moderator Posts: 2329 From: UNITED STATES, BABY Registered: Jan 2012	posted April 02, 2014 11:52 AM quote: Originally posted by Sibyl: I think it is helplessness. IP: Logged

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