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Faith
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posted May 06, 2014 08:59 PM
  
Thank you so much for your replies, I've been away all day and will catch up later.Much appreciated~  IP: Logged |
Ami Anne
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posted May 06, 2014 09:01 PM
We all see that he's a smart person with a lot of potential and that he can turn things around if effort is actually put into that...If any of us have long term and deeply painful things( which we all do) we don't turn it around by people being mean or demeaning to us. We turn it around through love and understanding.
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FireMoon
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posted May 06, 2014 09:14 PM
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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
[/b]We all see that he's a smart person with a lot of potential and that he can turn things around if effort is actually put into that...If any of us have long term and deeply painful things( which we all do) we don't turn it around by people being mean or demeaning to us. We turn it around through love and understanding.
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Yes but we also don't turn it around by making excuses repeatedly for things we actually have some control over, and having other people make those same excuses for us... It's not productive, or kind even. IP: Logged |
PixieJane
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posted May 06, 2014 09:14 PM
Adriana should not be confused with your typical female. IP: Logged |
FireMoon
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posted May 06, 2014 09:17 PM
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Originally posted by aquaguy91:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by FireMoon:
[b] . But what I found weird about the way AG explained it (in this thread specifically) is there's nothing unreasonable or "manipulative" about a girl as asking for a pic in return. ..
^^^^ this is just another example of how people take things I say out of context. I never said that it was manipulative for a girl to simply ask for a picture in return. I provided specific examples of what constitutes manipulation in these situations. If a girl gets angry and starts implying i must be inadequate and I should have no problems sending a picture if I wasnt she is being manipulative. And yes That has happened to me. I never said asking in and of itself is manipulative. [/B][/QUOTE]Ok well you also said it's an "unspoken contract" of sorts, so if you knew this wouldn't you think some anger would be expected if you have no intention of following through on your end? Insults are uncalled for but so is deception... It sounds more like you were being manipulative and once she realized that got upset and nasty about it. Just another convenient piece of "evidence" that women are unreasonable I guess... IP: Logged |
aquaguy91
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posted May 06, 2014 09:22 PM
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Originally posted by FireMoon:
Ok well you also said it's an "unspoken contract" of sorts, so if you knew this wouldn't you think some anger would be expected if you have no intention of following through on your end? Insults are uncalled for but so is deception...
But the thing is I dont ask for nude photos, if I didnt ask its not my problem. Personally its kind of a turn off if a girl does that. IP: Logged |
FireMoon
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posted May 06, 2014 09:26 PM
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Originally posted by aquaguy91:
But the thing is I dont ask for nude photos, if I didnt ask its not my problem. Personally its kind of a turn off if a girl does that.
Right, if she randomly sent you one out of nowhere with absolutely no talking about it before hand (seems highly unlikely) then that makes sense. Otherwise you were the one who mentioned an "unspoken contract" so it sort of is your problem... eta, I know exchanging pics is something that goes on in our generation... But I'm being honest when I say I've never personally heard of a woman initiating it out of nowhere and then cruelly demanding the guy sends one.. Something seems off about the story And what a great example too. Any females willing to admit they understand how the whole sexting thing works and call you on the bs, risk making themselves look bad. Have to give you props for knowing how to frame these things AG. I'm just still not buying the manipulation part... Anyway I'm out of this thread and all others with this theme in the future. 7thGuardian and Pixie are right, detachment is sometimes best. No one can be helped unless they want it, which AG clearly does not. IP: Logged |
Ami Anne
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posted May 06, 2014 09:36 PM
Yes but we also don't turn it around by making excuses repeatedly for things we actually have some control over, and having other people make those same excuses for us... It's not productive, or kind even.My opinion is that AG is in a process. Part of his process is some people being mean to him. He keeps bringing it up because it is a festering sore. I just gave my opinion because the people being mean to him( and it is not everyone who responded) are doing it to be mean and not to help him. ------------------
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MsPrism
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posted May 06, 2014 09:58 PM
How do you know they're not trying to help? People approach differently and just because it doesn't fit into your view of helping, doesn't mean it doesn't come from a place of genuine care.I await your extraordinary power of ignoring, for it is always a treat to behold. IP: Logged |
PixieJane
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posted May 06, 2014 10:08 PM
I think most of us are aware of Ami's double standards and that it's not the content of a post that matters but who makes it and to whom. She's blatant about it often enough that it just begs for comment (and I wonder if she's hoping for that, like when she kept posting satire articles over & over saying how stupid we were for not believing the satires and then acting surprised that once again it was satire rather than real news, she HAD to be doing that on purpose for attention and I suspect she looks for attention in other similar ways, too). One double standard that's less blatant here is how many times I've been slammed, including being mocked by pix in this forum, and she did nothing because it was one of her pets doing it against me. Not that I cared, I either laugh along (though if I give back THEN Ami will step in, double standards activated) or I just ignore it, I don't get all butt hurt by it. I can't imagine AG was all butt hurt over my silliness either, he's actually pretty stoic and I think he gets my sense of humor and we've teased each other before in this and other forums. And I hope it was obvious I was being silly to most people. That is when talking with Faith and trying to ease up her frustration. But I'm being completely serious about what I said about Ami. Sorry Faith, you had your chance to respond and you had to know from the start how it was going to end. IP: Logged |
Ami Anne
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posted May 06, 2014 10:34 PM
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Originally posted by MsPrism:
How do you know they're not trying to help? People approach differently and just because it doesn't fit into your view of helping, doesn't mean it doesn't come from a place of genuine care.I await your extraordinary power of ignoring, for it is always a treat to behold.
 I think many of the comments to AG are nasty and demeaning and it is obvious to those who are not defending themselves. ------------------
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Ami Anne
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posted May 06, 2014 10:36 PM
I can't imagine AG was all butt hurt over my silliness either, he's actually pretty stoic and I think he gets my sense of humor and we've teased each other before in this and other forums.When you get called on your meanness, you call it silliness which is a classic bullying and abusive stance. We should ask AG if he thinks you are being mean or just being silly. If he thinks you are just being silly, then that is fine and I will butt out. To me, it is clear you are being mean because you think you can get away with it but it is up to him to say because he is the one to whom it is directed. ------------------
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Ami Anne
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posted May 06, 2014 10:52 PM
I remember in my first year here, I was getting attacked a la AG. I was frozen to the spot. I kept feeling like I had to answer back. I really did not know what to do as if I had no power but to stand there and keep answering and answering. It was not in my realm of understanding that I could leave. Then Popcorn, who was on Astro 2 and we were friends there, said just come back to Astro 2. You don't need to go through this. I unfroze and did. However, prior to that I had no tools to do anything but stand there and let people hurt me. I jump in when people are bullied cuz I know how it feels.
In time, the person will learn to stand up or ignore but if they are not doing that sufficiently, then they may need a hand and I will offer it.
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MsPrism
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posted May 06, 2014 10:57 PM
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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
then they may need a hand and I will offer it.
Ask if he needs a hand before you jump the gun and close the thread. IP: Logged |
FireMoon
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posted May 06, 2014 11:01 PM
^you were able to call Barbiegirl out on her behavior (in a direct, yet not mean way) and explain why she seemed to always be "victimized" here and receive such negativity...Just wondering why you can't do the same with AG, or at least let others try? I know you have a soft spot for him but it's honestly not helping him... IP: Logged |
MoonWitch
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posted May 06, 2014 11:04 PM
I was attacked quite a bit when I joined LL, as well. I try not to dwell on it, though. I understand the reasons behind it.
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Ami Anne
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posted May 06, 2014 11:07 PM
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Originally posted by FireMoon:
^you were able to call Barbiegirl out on her behavior (in a direct, yet not mean way) and explain why she seemed to always be "victimized" here and receive such negativity...Just wondering why you can't do the same with AG, or at least let others try? I know you have a soft spot for him but it's honestly not helping him...
I think AG has a wound like when a tooth hurts or a sore. He can't stop talking about it because it hurts and he is in pain. I really think the people who are mean to him is part of his healing BUT they should own it and not say they are just being silly. That is CLASSIC abuse.
I think that the few people who bully him on here should own they are bullies and that is the take away lesson MORE than AG is suffering about women and does have misconceptions.
Everyone can see that, even himself. ------------------
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Ami Anne
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posted May 06, 2014 11:08 PM
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Originally posted by MoonWitch:
I was attacked quite a bit when I joined LL, as well. I try not to dwell on it, though. I understand the reasons behind it.
Why were you attacked? ------------------
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MsPrism
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posted May 06, 2014 11:10 PM
Good points.It seems like Ami Anne doesn't like women being aggressive but doesn't have a problem with men being that way. Ami, are you sure that you're not projecting your suffering from a woman onto AG's suffering from women? IP: Logged |
Ami Anne
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posted May 06, 2014 11:11 PM
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Originally posted by MsPrism:
Good points.It seems like Ami Anne doesn't like women being aggressive but doesn't have a problem with men being that way.
Which men are aggressive? I don't see AG as attacking people unless it is in self defense, which is fair. If someone attacks you, they asked for it imo ------------------
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MsPrism
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posted May 06, 2014 11:15 PM
Aggression and attacking aren't one in the same.I can aggressively hug someone. I can passively attack someone. AG is aggressive with speaking his mind and so are the people that speak to him. Like attracts like. IP: Logged |
Kerosene
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posted May 06, 2014 11:29 PM
True I get bitter and hateful energy from ag.I mean I could feel bad for him, but he lacks sensitivity.. He could vent but instead he makes a hate campaign against women.. The sad thing is even if he does find someone he has a such a warped and bitter attitude , there is no way he can respect women and his idealistic 17 century interpretation of what a woman should be like does not exist.. in a way you ami allowing him to be this way are contributing to his self destruction. Congratulations you are of no help but i get this feeling that you don't even care about his well being..
You are feeding the fire by allowing him to spew hateful messages, you actually encourage him.. You are incredibly shady though... When I see your presence in threads my skin crawls because there is always a weird undertone to a lot of your posts. IP: Logged |
MoonWitch
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posted May 06, 2014 11:44 PM
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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
Why were you attacked?
Because someone believed I wasn't who I said I was. IP: Logged |
aquaguy91
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posted May 06, 2014 11:55 PM
Thanks for the Support Ami. But dont worry about me too much. Most of the time I dont get angry or hurt by things people say here. However I do get irked if I'm cranky,have had a bad day, or someone is really pushing me. Most of the time it just goes in one ear in out the other. I'm very firm in my beliefs/opinions and nobody is going to change them. Contrary to what most people on here may think I "DO NOT"post what I do to be: whiny, annoying, make people mad, or to troll. I post what I post to break up the Status Quo and to stick it to political correctness. The fact of the matter is we live in a politically correct world where certain groups of people have chips on their shoulders because they were wronged in the past and they are sucked up to because they are able to make people feel guilty. And most of the time nobody challenges them because they dont want to be called a racist or sexist. But unlike most people I do not bow down to political correctness. Im not afraid of being labeled as a misogynist because "I Know" that I am not one. I DO NOT hate women,However I am not too pleased with the way that most women behave these days but again that does not make me a misogynist . Think about it this way...... Black culture in the u.s has gone down the tubes and everybody knows it but nobody wants to say anything about it. Why? Because they dont want to be labeled with the R WORD (Racist). Political Correctness has gotten out of control and it prevents open discussions on important issues. Contrary to what most people believe you can be upset at groups of people and call them out without hating them. Calling a spade a spade is not hate... Here in the u.s It is politically incorrect to say anything critical about women. Thats why I do what I do! I am showing people that a man can be upset with a woman without the world ending. And I can see progress! Since I have been posting several other men on this board have sort of come out of the closet and have more or less agreed with things I have said. Just to give an example Randall posted a bad boy thread. I can see how my posts are desensitizing people and inspiring open dialogues. If people dont take anything else away from this post I hope that they will realize that "I DO NOT" hate women, I hate political correctness.
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Ami Anne
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posted May 06, 2014 11:57 PM
In a larger context, LL, and specifically Randall, Lalalinda and IQ, were there for me at the worst time of my life and because of that, I want to give back. LL is rising to the top.A small part of this may be my standing up to bullies of newcomers. Maybe, it is not. I don't know, but I do know that people need to feel safe in a new community and I am strong enough to help out, in that respect, so I do, when I can. ------------------
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