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Padre35
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posted May 15, 2014 10:22 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Padre35     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by 7thGuardian:
Did you people watch that video?
That Perry Noble - is hilarious! He talks like a stand-up comedian. ^^

I never seen a priest like him before, he's really funny (for a change) - i give you that. Aries type of humor - direct and concise. ^^


Heh, the Institutions answer to bleeding millenials who find the Church is not meeting their needs with bad organ music and dry sermons

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7thGuardian
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posted May 15, 2014 11:07 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for 7thGuardian     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Kerosene:
Oh please.. don't push it




What a coincidence - i had a similar idea in mind last week, but - not as a joke. If you think about it with an open mind - that might be something that could really work for him. And not a model like the one in above picture - that looks like a cheap window doll - but the actual thing, realistic female models - intended for clients who are either interested in this option with sexual reasons in mind - or they already have an objectifying vision of women - and can see them as a perfect mate for their needs. There are some known cases - of guys who even married this dolls.

One such example would be "Everard Cunion" - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AWCfkdzM0oU

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Everard Cunion is a 55-year-old man that lives with nine artificial women, or life size “love dolls.” He has always struggled to find the right human woman, so in 2008 he married Caroline, a lovely plastic woman that became his lawfully wedded wife. Cunion bought his first doll woman in 2000, and has been in plastic bliss ever since. While the downside is that his dolls can’t talk to him, the up shot is that they will never divorce him.

- but his models are kinda outdated (his first is from 2000). There's another guy who married his dolls, as in "Davecat" http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2439522/Davecat-40-shunned-o rganic-women-marry-synthetic-doll.html - this guys has more recent models (more realistic - i presume):

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He said: ‘A friend of mine just got divorced after 17 years of marriage.

‘That's an enormous investment of time, money, and emotion, and I'm not interested in having someone in my life who may bail at any time, or who transforms into someone unpleasant.

‘Ultimately, getting romantically involved with an organic woman doesn't seem worth it to me.’

His experience of real life relationships was the reason he now prefers the dolls, which are made of platinum-soft silicone, stand about 5’1” tall and weigh 78 lbs.

Davecat said that he was seeing one ‘organic lass’ after he had bought Sidore but she was not always available to meet when he wanted.

He began asking himself: ‘Why am I wasting my time trying to get her to hang out and be romantically involved with me, when I have a Doll who is in love with me at home?’

Unfortunately Davecat’s dolls cannot do everything that a real life person can do.

He cannot take the dolls with him when he goes out, for example, as he knows that others might ‘raise more than a few eyebrows’.


They're kinda expensive i guess - their price is ranging from 5000$ to 7000$ (more or less), but - they seem to fit the saying: "there's someone for everyone" - as proven by the guys from above - so they might be worth it for people - who already see women as objects (like a car who would cost to much to maintain) - and have a hard time dealing with the real thing.

Just an idea - that might be worth taking in consideration.

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posted May 15, 2014 12:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for aquaguy91     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Padre35:
Seems fairly simple.

In fairness to AG's pain, it sounds like he is not getting to that stage successfully, ie, he is being blown out.

Which in his roundabout way is why he mentioned the Czech young lady in a different thread, not being blown out is a new experience for him when it comes to women he (imo) considers as "hawt!"

As for the OP, do think several things are at play, like any other field different clergy have larger audiences, that one probably has a large audience and is considered influential. For myself cannot quite get past the thorny problem they face.

-Congregations at large Churches are usually predominately female usually with a significant portion being either single, or divorced and once again single

-Male portion of the congregation is not exactly rushing to marry them as even in Church, social conditions are reality. Divorce, single parent households, child support et al are still realities.

And the unspoken fact o' life if one is unattractive outside of the walls of the Church, one is probably also unattractive inside the walls of the Church. Meaning the same dating market factors still are in play.

-Culture is awash in sexualization, his only Biblical response is "marry them", which is a form of sexual repression (in my view)

So there are no easy answers

Edited to add:

He was doing alright until he suggested the sort of needy, clingy behavior, bring dinner, or breakfast, do anything to spend 15 minutes with her etc

THAT is horrible advice, not only stalkerish, also a bug a boo, all the while reducing ones value and further does not even allow things to become a two way street..talk about putting pressure on her.



My issue with him and people like him (which would be the vast majority of people) is they refuse to acknowledge the reasons for the change in male behavior, mainly feminism. Women have fundamentally changed and more and more men are reacting to those changes, which is why I brought up the rise of mgtow and pua earlier. But people are lazy and want to stay in their comfort zones and avoid politically incorrect conversations. I just saw another video where the same pastor was blaming men for high divorce rates... I guess nobody ever told him that upwards of 80% of divorces are initiated by women. But in his logic divorce rates would be much lower if men just tried harder and groveled at their wives feet more... Never does he say anything critical of women or suggest ways for them to make their husbands happy. Is it any wonder that men are giving the finger to marriage after listening to stuff like this?

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posted May 15, 2014 12:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for aquaguy91     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by 7thGuardian:

They're kinda expensive i guess - their price is ranging from 5000$ to 7000$ (more or less), but - they seem to fit the saying: "there's someone for everyone" - as proven by the guys from above - so they might be worth it for people - who already see women as objects (like a car who would cost to much to maintain) - and have a hard time dealing with the real thing.

Just an idea - that might be worth taking in consideration.



Are you trying to be funny?

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ariestaurus
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posted May 15, 2014 12:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ariestaurus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by aquaguy91:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Padre35:
[b] Seems fairly simple.

In fairness to AG's pain, it sounds like he is not getting to that stage successfully, ie, he is being blown out.

Which in his roundabout way is why he mentioned the Czech young lady in a different thread, not being blown out is a new experience for him when it comes to women he (imo) considers as "hawt!"

As for the OP, do think several things are at play, like any other field different clergy have larger audiences, that one probably has a large audience and is considered influential. For myself cannot quite get past the thorny problem they face.

-Congregations at large Churches are usually predominately female usually with a significant portion being either single, or divorced and once again single

-Male portion of the congregation is not exactly rushing to marry them as even in Church, social conditions are reality. Divorce, single parent households, child support et al are still realities.

And the unspoken fact o' life if one is unattractive outside of the walls of the Church, one is probably also unattractive inside the walls of the Church. Meaning the same dating market factors still are in play.

-Culture is awash in sexualization, his only Biblical response is "marry them", which is a form of sexual repression (in my view)

So there are no easy answers

Edited to add:

He was doing alright until he suggested the sort of needy, clingy behavior, bring dinner, or breakfast, do anything to spend 15 minutes with her etc

THAT is horrible advice, not only stalkerish, also a bug a boo, all the while reducing ones value and further does not even allow things to become a two way street..talk about putting pressure on her.
My issue with him and people like him (which would be the vast majority of people) is they refuse to acknowledge the reasons for the change in male behavior, mainly feminism. Women have fundamentally changed and more and more men are reacting to those changes, which is why I brought up the rise of mgtow and pua earlier. But people are lazy and want to stay in their comfort zones and avoid politically incorrect conversations. I just saw another video where the same pastor was blaming men for high divorce rates... I guess nobody ever told him that upwards of 80% of divorces are initiated by women. But in his logic divorce rates would be much lower if men just tried harder and groveled at their wives feet more... Never does he say anything critical of women or suggest ways for them to make their husbands happy. Is it any wonder that men are giving the finger to marriage after listening to stuff like this?


You need help.

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aquaguy91
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posted May 15, 2014 01:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for aquaguy91     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by ariestaurus:
You need help.

So I need help huh? Can you explain further why I need help, I mean you are obviously an expert right? Of course you can't because you have no logical reason to believe such a thing. All you know is you dont like what I have to say and want me to shut up.

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7thGuardian
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posted May 15, 2014 01:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 7thGuardian     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by aquaguy91:
Are you trying to be funny?

No. I've heard about the first guy mentioned in above post couple of years ago on the news - and apparently, other guys followed his example (like the 2'nd guy mentioned). The marriage part - is kinda crazy (i guess), but from what i read - it's a growing business. So, i'd take it - there's more and more people out-there interested in "above option" in favor of the real thing (a real women). And their ideas for why they'd take that option in consideration - are quite similar to yours. Take Dave for example:

That's an enormous investment of time, money, and emotion, and I'm not interested in having someone in my life who may bail at any time, or who transforms into someone unpleasant.

‘Ultimately, getting romantically involved with an organic woman doesn't seem worth it to me.’

His experience of real life relationships was the reason he now prefers the dolls, which are made of platinum-soft silicone, stand about 5’1” tall and weigh 78 lbs.

Davecat said that he was seeing one ‘organic lass’ after he had bought Sidore but she was not always available to meet when he wanted.

He began asking himself: ‘Why am I wasting my time trying to get her to hang out and be romantically involved with me, when I have a Doll who is in love with me at home?

...

Here's the description of one such models:

The RealDoll is designed to recreate the appearance, texture, and weight of the human female and male form (yes - there's even a male version). Their primary function is to serve as sex partners. This activity can be accompanied by certain preparations such as dressing them up in different types of clothing, changing wigs or makeup, and even adjusting body temperature by use of electric blankets or baths.

Early prototypes were made from solid latex with an interior skeleton, but construction of the outer material was later switched to silicone. In June 2009, Abyss Creations switched from tin cure silicone to platinum silicone, which resulted in dolls that are less prone to tears and compression marks than older RealDolls.


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Padre35
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posted May 15, 2014 06:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Padre35     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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issue with him and people like him (which would be the vast majority of people) is they refuse to acknowledge the reasons for the change in male behavior, mainly feminism. Women have fundamentally changed and more and more men are reacting to those changes, which is why I brought up the rise of mgtow and pua earlier. But people are lazy and want to stay in their comfort zones and avoid politically incorrect

Of course men will change in response to changes in the sexual market, in ways to attempt to achieve the highest success..see get laid.

Law of the Jungle is very simple those who adapt the most effectively thrive. One can say "Feminism" as the culprit, which presumes every woman is a Feminist, very untrue


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I just saw another video where the same pastor was blaming men for high divorce rates... I guess nobody ever told him that upwards of 80% of divorces are initiated by women. But in his logic divorce rates would be much lower if men just tried harder and groveled at their wives feet more... Never does he say anything critical of women or suggest ways for them to make their husbands happy. Is it any wonder that men are giving the finger to marriage after listening to stuff like this?

Marriage rates are declining b/c there is little advantage in being married, not b/c ones straw man argument over what such and such a pastor had to say.

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