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Topic: I'm ugly....
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KarkaQueen Knowflake Posts: 4900 From: In my 1st house Uranus and Neptune Registered: May 2011
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posted July 05, 2014 11:27 PM
It's true Bella. Most people are of lower standards and character, but when is this new information ? (and not really related to the whole KK issue, its just that in general).edit: but I'm no jesus christ either.. i add to my comment so i wont sound overzealous :S Say, we should learn to embrace their faults and to understand them internally. Not everyone works on our patterns.. it just human nature. *shrugs* IP: Logged |
PixieJane Moderator Posts: 4784 From: CA Registered: Oct 2010
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posted July 06, 2014 01:33 AM
One thing I've noticed about men is that--generally speaking, of course--they can compartmentalize a lot better between looks and personality as well as love and lust. Character has little to do with attraction as it normally does with women. The confusion often comes in because men and women are similar without being the same. Women appreciate good looks as well so that men and women think it's identical to each other rather than merely similar. Generally speaking looks are much more important to men whereas women are much more inclined to take the entire package (including intangibles) into account when feeling attraction, though it's important to note that looks still matter to women while at the same time a man will care about other things besides looks as well, just that the looks count for so much more to him (again, generally speaking). I don't know if that's hardwired into us (an explanation for exceptions in this case is minor details, like a pregnant woman in a car crash or fire who experiences a large surge of adrenaline can affect the developing fetus so that a girl born from this pregnancy will have a brain much more like a male explaining strong tomboy--and even tomcat just as visually stimulated as a man--leanings) or social software (men are encouraged to "score" be it in hunting, earnings, or sexual encounters and thus much less picky about who they're attracted to and their sexuality is much more celebrated, at least among other males, whereas women are expected to think more of her reputation and future and thus more picky so that the brain is "trained" to determine desirability a certain way), but I see a definite tendency there. Which in this case means he likely only cares what Kim Kardashian looks like, not what kind of person she is (he probably never even read a brief bio of her). It's just pure eye candy which he'll almost certainly get bored of sooner or later. I'll end there without including other disclaimers and (IMO) interesting trivia. IP: Logged |
bansheequeen Knowflake Posts: 320 From: Beachville, USA Registered: Jan 2012
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posted July 06, 2014 04:17 AM
Most people don't agree with me on this but men that are like this are wrong and their girls deserve better than them. Obviously watching porn or admiring the beauty of celebs or just a girl walking down to street a little too much hurts girls feelings. Even the ones that try to be the "cool chick" that says she's cool with it and points out hot chicks and other bs like that. Deep down she probably has more negative than positive feelings about her man checking out other girls. If a guy says this is just how guys are and girls need to deal with it... then he is being an insensitive ******* .Obviously this behavior from her boyfriend HURTS HER. So she is in no way wrong for feeling how she feels. People shouldn't be trying to rationalize her boyfriends behavior saying blah blah blah is why she shouldn't feel bad. Nor saying that she's being insecure. Because bottom line is it hurt her feelings, and if he's a decent guy he won't do that anymore. What does he have to gain from that? Nothing. If he really can't control himself or he chooses to engage in behavior that hurts his girlfriend, he's no good. But then again everyone's different. When truly in love some people only have eyes for their lover. Yes there are men like this too. Other people will always have a roaming eye no matter what. It's a matter of finding someone that's like you rather than trying to settle for someone that is the opposite and will hurt you in the end or restrict your freedom... IP: Logged |
bansheequeen Knowflake Posts: 320 From: Beachville, USA Registered: Jan 2012
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posted July 06, 2014 04:32 AM
quote: Originally posted by Barbiegirl19: ^Well that was harsh LOL. If it were me I'd talk to him about it, be straight forward and tell him how it made you feel. Do it calmly and he'll understand better, if you flip out on him then it won't solve anything. You shouldn't call yourself ugly or feel offended. That's just what happens I guess. Both are very beautiful regardless of what the hatas say He's with you, that's all that matters. Jealousy is a form of insecurity, don't let him see that, no one likes that.
Not so much jealousy as it is like a feeling of betrayal I think. Irrational but I can understand it. Because most people think it's jealousy when I would get down on a guy for checking girls out. It's more like... How dare you disrespect me who do you think you are I could destroy you. I don't really get the feeling like those girls have something I lack or even that those guys wanted to **** those girls. I only have time for the guys who will revolve around me. Well that's how I treated the dating game at least. I blame my sun in 5th house lol. When in love I only have eyes for one person, the person I love. And I expect the same. If not, then I will feel as if they don't love me as much or to the intensity I love him. And if so, I don't want it at all. I guess that's a little checkbox for me personally to investigate if it's my great love. I don't see insecurity as a flaw. Again it's a preference. Some people completely look down on it, others find sharing insecurities makes someone more real. Just goes to show the spectrum of people there are. No one person is right, so we all need to try to find the ones that are right for us individualy. IP: Logged |
FireMoon Knowflake Posts: 1883 From: Minnesota Registered: Mar 2012
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posted July 06, 2014 05:00 AM
Idk I'm an Aqua venus so I don't really find it that unusual... (hence also probably the reason I'm not in a committed relationship right now lol) But really you should NOT feel ugly because your guy is attracted to, or looks at pictures of other girls, just like you're most likely attracted to other guy celebs (or whatever) once in a while. The real issue comes in though if you tell him this bothers you (jealousy/whatever you wanna call it) is a natural reaction, and if he's malicious or rude about it... Red flag, seriously. And if you can't even talk about it.. I guess that works for some ppl but try to really think about how genuine you're able to be with each other and what that means for the relationship. IP: Logged |
BellaFenice Knowflake Posts: 630 From: Phoenix, AZ, USA Registered: Sep 2013
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posted July 06, 2014 02:09 PM
quote: Originally posted by FireMoon: Idk I'm an Aqua venus so I don't really find it that unusual... (hence also probably the reason I'm not in a committed relationship right now lol)
Aqua Venus checking in- cosigned quote: Originally posted by KarkaQueen: edit: but I'm no jesus christ either.. i add to my comment so i wont sound overzealous :SSay, we should learn to embrace their faults and to understand them internally. Not everyone works on our patterns.. it just human nature. *shrugs*
What are you talking about? I though you were a quiet, sweet, little innocent flower that loves American men?  Completely agree with the 2nd paragraph. @Athene, I totally agree that we should focus more on the internal and its a shame society is so fixated on appearances. I think the other issue is whether the two of you have ever discussed this behavior (I'm thinking not). Instead of vilifying the boyfriend and making assumptions we should consider that if they haven't talked about it he might not know how it makes her feel. If they decide for him to stop the behavior and then he still does it, then we can judge the hell out of him.
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whitewitch111 Moderator Posts: 1891 From: Hillsboro, OR, USA Registered: Jan 2013
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posted July 06, 2014 04:47 PM
Hey guys its all resolved feeling better now.  IP: Logged |
BellaFenice Knowflake Posts: 630 From: Phoenix, AZ, USA Registered: Sep 2013
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posted July 06, 2014 04:50 PM
quote: Originally posted by whitewitch111: Hey guys its all resolved feeling better now. 
YAY!!!! Glad to hear things are okay! IP: Logged |
Barbiegirl19 Knowflake Posts: 4055 From: Pluto with DeepFreeze Registered: Jul 2013
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posted July 06, 2014 05:21 PM
quote: Originally posted by whitewitch111: Hey guys its all resolved feeling better now. 
Glad you feel better and that it all worked out.  IP: Logged |
KarkaQueen Knowflake Posts: 4900 From: In my 1st house Uranus and Neptune Registered: May 2011
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posted July 06, 2014 09:24 PM
quote: Originally posted by BellaFenice: What are you talking about? I though you were a quiet, sweet, little innocent flower that loves American men?  Completely agree with the 2nd paragraph. @Athene, I totally agree that we should focus more on the internal and its a shame society is so fixated on appearances. I think the other issue is whether the two of you have ever discussed this behavior (I'm thinking not). Instead of vilifying the boyfriend and making assumptions we should consider that if they haven't talked about it he might not know how it makes her feel. If they decide for him to stop the behavior and then he still does it, then we can judge the hell out of him.
Me liking American men is a joke. I may even poke you with my pitch fork just for insinuating that.  IP: Logged |
Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 55767 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010
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posted July 06, 2014 09:41 PM
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BellaFenice Knowflake Posts: 630 From: Phoenix, AZ, USA Registered: Sep 2013
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posted July 06, 2014 09:45 PM
quote: Originally posted by KarkaQueen: Me liking American men is a joke. I may even poke you with my pitch fork just for insinuating that. 
I knew you would appreciate that! Just looking out for your best interests  #notallmenthough #justiceformen IP: Logged |