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Charmaine Moderator Posts: 354 From: Venus Next To Randall Registered: Dec 2014	posted March 18, 2015 10:54 AM Edit IP: Logged
Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 61226 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010	posted March 18, 2015 11:19 AM I am sorry, Charm ------------------ Want to Read Simple, Fun,Sexy Articles on Astrology? Check Me Out, DUDE. http://www.mychristianpsychic.com/ IP: Logged
DeepFreeze Knowflake Posts: 4834 From: Registered: Nov 2013	posted March 18, 2015 11:26 AM Wow... What's her sun/moon? IP: Logged
Charmaine Moderator Posts: 354 From: Venus Next To Randall Registered: Dec 2014	posted March 18, 2015 11:48 AM Edit IP: Logged
Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 61226 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010	posted March 18, 2015 12:01 PM You know what it sounds like to me and I could be totally wrong. It just came to me Muchahassen by proxy. Ever heard of that? If you want me to take this down, I will, Charm. I just thought I would share it to see what you think. ------------------ Want to Read Simple, Fun,Sexy Articles on Astrology? Check Me Out, DUDE. http://www.mychristianpsychic.com/ IP: Logged
Charmaine Moderator Posts: 354 From: Venus Next To Randall Registered: Dec 2014	posted March 18, 2015 12:13 PM Not sure if she has that, Ami but she definately is mentally unstable. IP: Logged
Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 61226 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010	posted March 18, 2015 12:51 PM If you want to put up here chart, Charm, I will take a look. I may ask for some asteroids, too. ------------------ Want to Read Simple, Fun,Sexy Articles on Astrology? Check Me Out, DUDE. http://www.mychristianpsychic.com/ IP: Logged
DeepFreeze Knowflake Posts: 4834 From: Registered: Nov 2013	posted March 18, 2015 01:58 PM It sounds like she has a lot of anxiety about this pregnancy that she's unable to cope with. So it becomes everyone else's fault. I'm not the best at finding solutions. Well, not easy ones. I'd be calm, but stern. You've told her that you support her. I'd follow it up with, "if you're going to be irrational then I'm not going to talk to you. Let me know when you come to your senses" But sort of as a last resort. It sounds like you've exhausted being nice. IP: Logged
PixieJane Moderator Posts: 6238 From: CA Registered: Oct 2010	posted March 18, 2015 05:50 PM I knew someone like this, or at least when she wanted to be that way (depending on how she felt about you at the moment). Her claims were as absurd as the examples you give (so if she'd been pregnant I don't doubt she'd have pulled something similar) and to make it worse she'd make absurd demands, and if you didn't then you're a terrible person who failed her, and if you DID then you were still terrible either because "you could have done it before" or, well, just because...(for example, give numbers and emamils and say "keep in touch" and try to even about little things every few days just so she doesn't ***** about being ignored now that you get nothing from her--which she would have--but when you do then it's it's a call to desist from "stalking" her. ) You cannot reason with such a person. Though frankly I assumed the intense abuse she endured growing up (assuming she didn't just invent that, though now that I think about it she had a laid back easygoing brother who never mentioned anything about abuse growing up, nor did she mention it to him when the two discussed their childhood and parents, and I do know she lied about being abused by someone in the present as well as lying about everyone she decided she didn't like anymore in the same way your sister does). There is only one way to win: don't play. Divorce any sentiment and goodwill from this person, she is going to make you the monster no matter what. NOTHING will change that, and she doesn't want you to be anything else, because she is the monster. There is no cure, only exile. I feel sorry for her kid, though. IP: Logged
Charmaine Moderator Posts: 354 From: Venus Next To Randall Registered: Dec 2014	posted March 19, 2015 02:07 AM Edit IP: Logged
Charmaine Moderator Posts: 354 From: Venus Next To Randall Registered: Dec 2014	posted March 19, 2015 02:22 AM Edit IP: Logged
Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 61226 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010	posted March 19, 2015 11:53 AM I hear you, Charm. I find that in these situations, the person's chart will show these things. That gives me a peace because you know what I have been through. We will never know the reason when we are on the earth, though. Only God knows ------------------ Want to Read Simple, Fun,Sexy Articles on Astrology? Check Me Out, DUDE. http://www.mychristianpsychic.com/ IP: Logged
Randall Webmaster Posts: 51901 From: Saturn next to Charmaine Registered: Apr 2009	posted March 20, 2015 01:23 PM Sending you lots of Love. IP: Logged
tuxedo meow Knowflake Posts: 877 From: Third Coast Registered: Aug 2009	posted March 23, 2015 12:18 PM Look up narcissistic sociopath. IP: Logged
Einf�hlung Knowflake Posts: 128 From: Lily of The Valley Registered: Feb 2015	posted March 23, 2015 01:08 PM I'm sorry about what you're going through People can be such jerks. Hopefully your sister will come to her senses some day when karma hits her. IP: Logged
Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 61226 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010	posted March 23, 2015 02:27 PM quote: Originally posted by tuxedo meow: Look up narcissistic sociopath. I never heard of these put together, T. ------------------ Want to Read Simple, Fun,Sexy Articles on Astrology? Check Me Out, DUDE. http://www.mychristianpsychic.com/ IP: Logged
Barbiegirl19 Moderator Posts: 5540 From: Pluto with DeepFreeze Registered: Jul 2013	posted March 23, 2015 03:34 PM quote: Originally posted by Randall: Sending you lots of Love. Second this, Charm! I can't even imagine the stress. It stressed me out while reading it. I'm sorry you have to deal with such things. I knew a girl VERY similar and boy when it finally came down to me disassociating myself with her I felt guilty. She was too much for me. She came from some really ****** people that didn't give a crap about her yet controlled everything that she could and couldn't do. She wasn't allowed to do anything so she lied all of the time to do the things she couldn't. She was afraid of her and her sister being put into foster care (which eventually did happen) so would lie about all the crap her parents did to her. They had the police constantly called by neighbors and CPS by the school. She exaggerated everything so it was hard to tell when she was actually telling the truth half of the time. She had a lot of problems with cutting, depression. Dated the worst slum of the earth type of guys. Used anyone she could if it benefited her. She experienced so much trauma. So it was really tough for me to keep up or even somewhat comfort her being the mama bear Cancer Mars that I am. She ended up having 2 kids last I heard and they've changed her, matured her A LOT! Perhaps the same will happen with your sister. You gotta stay positive! Don't let the bad overwhelm the good that could come out of this situation. IP: Logged
Charmaine Moderator Posts: 354 From: Venus Next To Randall Registered: Dec 2014	posted March 26, 2015 09:18 AM Thanks for the imput and Loves. Tuxedo.strangely enough I've been reading up about sociopaths and she fits most of the descriptions. Barb, I hope having a baby will change her..things have gotten worse since my last post here and it's beyond stressful. It is taking its toll on my mum which leaves me feeling helpless since I can't physically be there for her. I don't even want to reveal how bad it has gotten and has left me with sleepless nights and loss of appettite due to worry. I have not replied to any of her messages - ignoring her seems to have set her off even more. The father of the baby is talking about getting legal custody because he can't bear it anymore either. He too is concerned about the well being of the baby.. My mum is unable to break ties with my sis. She is her daughter after all so it's tougher on her. We will have to see how it all turns out. IP: Logged
teasel Knowflake Posts: 6788 From: Registered: Apr 2009	posted March 26, 2015 05:15 PM She sounds scared. Maybe something about her pregnancy has kicked things up. A few years ago, when things were getting bad here, I had nightmares about similar things from my childhood. I was also dealing with being yelled at, physically hurt, and treated like crap, every single day, so it wasn't the nightmares alone that upset me, but I was reliving things emotionally. I don't think she's a sociopath, try looking up borderline personality disorder. My reactions were normal for what I was going through, but I was reading about things like that, in case the sudden disruption of a life that had been stable for years, could cause something like that to kick in. Also, try rhodiola for the stress. I've been taking it for anxiety and depression, and it's supposed to protect the body from stress-related illness. It sounds like she could use it, but I don't know if it's okay with pregnancy. IP: Logged
Charmaine Moderator Posts: 354 From: Venus Next To Randall Registered: Dec 2014	posted March 27, 2015 01:47 AM She's not scared. She's selfish, manipulating and twisted. You won't understand unless you're in such a situation with such a person. IP: Logged
Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 61226 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010	posted April 02, 2015 01:39 PM How is it going, Charm? ------------------ Want to Read Simple, Fun,Sexy Articles on Astrology? Check Me Out, DUDE. http://www.mychristianpsychic.com/ IP: Logged
Condoowit Newflake Posts: 21 From: Registered: Apr 2014	posted April 07, 2015 08:27 AM Testing IP: Logged
Condoowit Newflake Posts: 21 From: Registered: Apr 2014	posted April 07, 2015 08:47 AM Charmaine as I was reading what you were saying about your sister, I immediately thought Borderline Personality Disorder, and I see Teasel thought the same. I am no psychologist but I grew up with a mother who fits the textbook descriptions of BPD. Incredibly, she has slightly mellowed with age, but she managed to terrorize plenty of people in the past- doing exactly the kind of things your sister does. No need for me to go into details here but feel free to email me if you want to talk and find out how I have dealt with this. Either way, I recommend you read up on borderline personality. It will be an eye opener. There's a book called Walking on Eggshells- forget the author now- but it's mentioned in the BPD forums. So sorry you're dealing with this and that it's stressing out the family. My aunt and uncle have said that although they shared the same traumatic upbringing it was only my mother who turned out this way... And that she showed signs from a very early age. IP: Logged
Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 61226 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010	posted April 07, 2015 09:18 AM Yes, C. I think there are chart markers for BPD and I doubt that people would develop it without these chart markers. That is my opinion, to date, anyway. ------------------ Want to Read Simple, Fun,Sexy Articles on Astrology? Check Me Out, DUDE. http://www.mychristianpsychic.com/ IP: Logged
Randall Webmaster Posts: 51901 From: Saturn next to Charmaine Registered: Apr 2009	posted April 07, 2015 12:31 PM Welcome! IP: Logged

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