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aquaguy91
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posted June 02, 2015 12:45 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for aquaguy91     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have been bitten by the travel bug and want to get out of this country and see the world. I guess it was inevitable with my sag midheaven and Pluto in the 9th house. Anyways, I have been doing alot of research and I saw how cheap college is in some parts of Europe compared to the U.S. The cost of living is also cheaper too. I'm seriously considering taking the plunge and going there to study. Life has gotten very stale for me here and I figure it would be good to see new places,new people etc. And what better way to experience a new culture than to live and go to school there? I just feel like it would be the right thing for me to do. It's been on my mind a lot lately.

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posted June 02, 2015 01:02 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for bansheequeen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I wanna do this so bad. Just pick up and move to another country ever since I saw homestay.com I just wanted to leave this place! Maybe when life becomes co poetry ahit for me, I'll do it. I don't have much going for me and I feel like it's going downhill so maybe ill actually end up in a new country..

If you really want to, take the plunge! Nothing worse than feeling like you're wasting your life

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posted June 02, 2015 01:16 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jo B     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You won't regret it Aquaguy. As they say, travel broadens the mind, and Europe has a lot to offer and marvel at.

As a Brit who has travelled quite a lot in America, I see great and not-so-great in both European culture and American.

I really would like to go to the Far East, including Tibet.

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Jo B
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posted June 02, 2015 01:23 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jo B     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
PS... I have one question though... why on EARTH would you want to leave Wankety Wankerson?

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aquaguy91
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posted June 02, 2015 01:44 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for aquaguy91     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Jo B,
The biggest reason I want to go elsewhere is to experience the social scene in another country. Most of the foreign people I have met, regardless of what country they came from, have been way more friendly and down to earth than most Americans. I feel like the U.S is a very Cliquish country and the culture is very superficial and plastic.

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posted June 02, 2015 02:02 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aquacheeka     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The Dutch are extremely friendly and kind fwiw. I would just love to visit there again.

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posted June 02, 2015 02:15 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jo B     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by aquaguy91:
Jo B,
The biggest reason I want to go elsewhere is to experience the social scene in another country. Most of the foreign people I have met, regardless of what country they came from, have been way more friendly and down to earth than most Americans. I feel like the U.S is a very Cliquish country and the culture is very superficial and plastic.

That's the paradox I find with America. People are superficially welcoming and friendly but you soon realize a lot of them are doing it for a reason (whether it's shop-people wanting to get money off you, or a work colleague because you might be a useful contact, etc). Sorry to be negative but that was my experience. I did make some genuine good friends though - musicians mostly. I think it's tougher in many ways economically in the US than Europe. You need money over there for everything, and that impacts on the way people treat you. Americans are really driven and goal-directed - or at least are expected to be in order to be considered "successful". In Europe we're a bit more, I dunno, laid back about things. True we're also a bit eccentric too. Anyway, what I found was America was really good for getting me motivated, but I missed the soul of Europe.

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posted June 02, 2015 02:31 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for aquaguy91     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Jo B:
That's the paradox I find with America. People are superficially welcoming and friendly but you soon realize a lot of them are doing it for a reason (whether it's shop-people wanting to get money off you, or a work colleague because you might be a useful contact, etc). Sorry to be negative but that was my experience. I did make some genuine good friends though - musicians mostly. I think it's tougher in many ways economically in the US than Europe. You need money over there for everything, and that impacts on the way people treat you. Americans are really driven and goal-directed - or at least are expected to be in order to be considered "successful". In Europe we're a bit more, I dunno, laid back about things. True we're also a bit eccentric too. Anyway, what I found was America was really good for getting me motivated, but I missed the soul of Europe.



No offense taken!
I think you are right! I think one of the biggest reasons the U.S is so disconnected is how spread out it is. Europe is a lot smaller and you can get to other cities and countries more quickly. I think there's more travel between the countries and people are exposed to more people from different backgrounds and are more open-minded. But here in the U.S it would take you a few days to drive across the country. So if you can't afford to fly (which is really expensive) on a regular basis you aren't going to be traveling very far.

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posted June 02, 2015 03:17 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for KarkaQueen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Jo B:
You won't regret it Aquaguy. As they say, travel broadens the mind, and Europe has a lot to offer and marvel at.

As a Brit who has travelled quite a lot in America, I see great and not-so-great in both European culture and American.

I really would like to go to the Far East, including Tibet.



What is better in European culture (specifically the European country please) and what is worse in American culture? How do the two compare?

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posted June 02, 2015 03:21 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for KarkaQueen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Jo B:
That's the paradox I find with America. People are superficially welcoming and friendly but you soon realize a lot of them are doing it for a reason (whether it's shop-people wanting to get money off you, or a work colleague because you might be a useful contact, etc). Sorry to be negative but that was my experience. I did make some genuine good friends though - musicians mostly. I think it's tougher in many ways economically in the US than Europe. You need money over there for everything, and that impacts on the way people treat you. Americans are really driven and goal-directed - or at least are expected to be in order to be considered "successful". In Europe we're a bit more, I dunno, laid back about things. True we're also a bit eccentric too. Anyway, what I found was America was really good for getting me motivated, but I missed the soul of Europe.



Europe you can walk more and motivates you for fitness seeing all the trim and healthy people on the street.
I love France especialyl.

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posted June 02, 2015 03:23 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for PixieJane     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I was thinking of going to college once and I figured the only way I could afford it (and not be burdened with student loans) was to take most of my classes outside the US (and it sounds like the education is better anyway), though I planned on doing a year or so at a local community college first (partially so I could gain enough of a language proficiency on my own for the test I'd be required to take before I was allowed to enroll in a certain college in Europe I was interested in with the goal of later gaining a Mastery of Library Science, which limited the colleges I could choose from if I wanted to minimize my time in college). While considering this option I did some research into what I'd have to do exactly and found that in many cases there were special rules and conditions and sometimes a waiting list. Since you don't pay taxes in other countries you may find they charge you more for tuition, and then there are the other costs of living that you have to consider.

And then there's all the US requirements...I don't know much about them but they sound irksome at times. It's probably not a big deal if you just go to Europe but I'd want some idea of what I was dealing with and risking, and I'd try to talk to expats if possible rather than just reading the official rules and requirements since the practice usually works out a bit differently than the theory.

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posted June 02, 2015 03:34 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for aquaguy91     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
^^^ The schools I was looking at were much cheaper than schools here in the U.S. Just to put things in perspective... The prices (per year) are only a little more expensive than the community college I'm going to be starting at in August. And that includes tuition,room and board,and all the other expenses of a traditional 4 year university. Of course you have to keep in mind that education is free in some European countries so they would regard those prices as expensive. The price of education in the U.S is outrageous.
It's also worth mentioning that a lot of the schools in Europe have programs where you are taught in English instead of the native language. So the language barrier wouldn't be an obstacle in going to school provided they offer what you want to study in English. Of course you would still want to have an understanding of the local language before you go so you can communicate with others that don't speak English.

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posted June 02, 2015 10:21 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jo B     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by KarkaQueen:

What is better in European culture (specifically the European country please) and what is worse in American culture? How do the two compare?

Well...Europe has so much variety, culturally, linguistically. Each country has a different feel too. British sense of humor is pretty good. France has chicness and class, Italy style and passion. Spain passion and a slight craziness, The Greek Islands are beautiful. The more mediterranean you go the more laid back the lifestyle can be. They have siestas, dine out late and go to bed late!. Germany is clean and efficient. Holland is flat, people are friendly and will insist on speaking English to you if you go there. I know these are pretty stereotypical impressions but anyone outside of Europe really should do a European tour at least once in their life. Not to mention the heritage and history, the churches, buildings, cathedrals, beautiful environments. I still need to go to Rome! I went to Florence and Pisa as a kid, even walked up the leaning tower of Pisa when it was still open to the public (closed now because it's leaning a bit TOO much!). I studied the frescos in Assisi, years before the Basilica was destroyed by an earthquake. To me those memories are priceless.

San Francisco is the one American city I could happily live in as it has some of the feel and soul of a European city. I also love New York and have visited Chicago, New Orleans, LA (a lot), Niagara Falls, Colorado (Boulder), the Grand Canyon, Key West. Those experiences were amazing too.

For me America is fun and exciting and got my creative juices flowing although I do feel more grounded back here. Perhaps if I actually relocated properly there and put down roots I would feel differently. All the Americans I met insisted America was my true home. I'd still move there like a shot if I had the opportunity.

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posted June 02, 2015 10:31 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ikja     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You're definitely not referring to universities in London 😂 - cheap? Lol never that!

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posted June 02, 2015 10:36 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Voix_de_la_Mer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Good Luck Aquaguy!

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posted June 02, 2015 11:37 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for aquaguy91     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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You're definitely not referring to universities in London 😂 - cheap? Lol never that!

The UK is not Europe. It is little America.

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posted June 02, 2015 11:55 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
That is cool, AG. Several of my clients teach English overseas. I have one in Korea. She loves it lol It seems to far away!

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posted June 02, 2015 07:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ikja     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by ikja:
[b]You're definitely not referring to universities in London 😂 - cheap? Lol never that!


The UK is not Europe. It is little America. [/B][/QUOTE]

Ooooo... That's fighting talk.
I might have to take this to the Venting Thread lol.
The UK definitely is Europe, but I'll assume you're excluding it for your own personal reasons!

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posted June 02, 2015 07:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for aquaguy91     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Ooooo... That's fighting talk.
I might have to take this to the Venting Thread lol.
The UK definitely is Europe, but I'll assume you're excluding it for your own personal reasons!

I was just kidding.

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posted June 02, 2015 07:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ikja     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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I was just kidding.

As am I!
It's all love from ikja lol x

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posted June 02, 2015 11:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by aquaguy91:
The UK is not Europe. It is little America.

Good luck understanding English when you get to England.

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posted June 02, 2015 11:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for aquaguy91     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I know all about their colorful version of the English language.

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posted June 02, 2015 11:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
La dee da!

When I studied in England, I could barely understand anything my English flatmates were talking about. Sometimes I was about as lost as our French flatmate who spoke almost no English at all.

But seriously, good luck with it. You have that mellow Taurus moon so maybe you will blend in better in the UK than other Americans who are way more hyper, loud, and blunt than English people are.

edit ~ nevermind, I see you're not going to the UK.

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posted June 03, 2015 12:01 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for aquaguy91     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm not going to the UK. It doesn't really interest me. Too much like the U.S

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posted June 03, 2015 12:05 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

You've never been there.

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