posted July 24, 2015 11:16 PM            

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Originally posted by Swanlake:
Hardly. The real reason is that the State is actively working to undermine and remove control of parents over their own children.

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posted July 25, 2015 09:30 PM            

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Originally posted by MoonWitch:
Control, huh?

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YES, control. Parents are in charge of children.

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posted July 26, 2015 07:33 PM            

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Originally posted by Catalina:
Calling it an orientation is not calling it acceptable..and distinguishing between those who would act on it (disorder) and those who feel that way (orientation) without acting ..makes that very clear. Or do you believe that pretending something doesn't exist makes it disappear?

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Classifying it as an "orientation" is already a DELIBERATE STEP towards BLURRING the BOUNDERIES.

Declaring that for an adult to be sexually attracted to kids is normal ie ONLY an "orientation" ..IS B.S .

There is definitely something WRONG with someone who is sexually attracted to children!
(WHETHER or not they act on it is irrelevant!)

Notice how You've already accepted AS FACT this perverse b.s. , Catalina- without questioning it.. BECAUSE it comes from someone with MD, PHD after his name.

This is how social engineering works. You should investigate techniques used to demoralise a society.( Destroy it from within).
You should also investigate Cultural Marxism, because morally corrupting the masses (esp children) is one of the classic techniques used to subjugate a population.
Cultural Marxism has been creeping in for decades, so slowly that people haven't noticed.. eg in education, whose aim is dumbing down the masses, via destroying critical thinking)..

posted July 26, 2015 07:40 PM            

There is definitely something WRONG with someone who is sexually attracted to children!

THANK YOU.

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posted July 26, 2015 09:47 PM            

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Originally posted by Catalina:
Being attracted to someone and acting on that are two different things. Period. Some people are attracted to children. What would you call that? And how does admitting that it exists imply acceptance of taking advantage of an actual child?

It doesn't, that's how. No one here ever wanted, say, an abuser to die? Or even fantasized about killing them/making them grovel, experience being the victim? DOing any of those things is criminal but how often is FEELING that way described as normal?

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Exactly.

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posted July 27, 2015 04:16 AM            

There's no indication that raping a child is about to become legal just because it is recognised that attraction to a child is an illness.

What would you prefer it recognised as?
Should we convict someone when they seek help for attraction to children?

How then, can we ever hope to find successful treatments that keep our children safe?

Prisons are crippling financially as it is, so were psychiatric institutions.
And there have always been many in the former who shold have been in the latter.

Dopgang illustrated this very well - many serial killers will have violent fantasies and plans (illness) but they don't break the law until they act.

Incidentally, violent fantasies are quite common in the general population - can you imagine if we jailed people on that basis?

Many people also have other illnesses, such as delusional disorders that can create delusions of attraction to children (I have heard this personally), but this is fleeting, non-intentional, and often a one-off delusion - can you imagine if we jailed people for saying this? When they will never actually act?

posted July 27, 2015 05:49 AM            

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Originally posted by Voix_de_la_Mer:
Being ill is not the crime.
The crime is the act.

There's no indication that raping a child is about to become legal just because it is recognised that attraction to a child is an illness.

What would you prefer it recognised as?
Should we convict someone when they seek help for attraction to children?

How then, can we ever hope to find successful treatments that keep our children safe?

Prisons are crippling financially as it is, so were psychiatric institutions.
And there have always been many in the former who shold have been in the latter.

Dopgang illustrated this very well - many serial killers will have violent fantasies and plans (illness) but they don't break the law until they act.

Incidentally, violent fantasies are quite common in the general population - can you imagine if we jailed people on that basis?

Many people also have other illnesses, such as delusional disorders that can create delusions of attraction to children (I have heard this personally), but this is fleeting, non-intentional, and often a one-off delusion - can you imagine if we jailed people for saying this? When they will never actually act?

ETA: The bottom line is Ami, it has to be SAFE for those who are ill to come forward for treatment and monitoring, it's the only way we can protect society.

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Your mind is clearly confused. You have totally missed the point!

1) RE-classifying it as merely an "ORIENTATION"
is the SAME THING as telling the public it is "normal"!!!

(They are NOT calling it an "illness")

2) It has NOTHING to do with protecting children!

They are trying to tell the public it's "normal" for an adult to feel SEXUALLY ATTRACTED to children (-as long as they don't act on it)!!!!!!

- Whereas It is a PERVERSION.

A Society that tries to "normalise" perversions in this deliberate way is very sick indeed!

posted July 27, 2015 06:27 AM            

http://www.charismanews.com/us/41571-pedophilia- officially-classified-as-sexual-orientation-by-american-psychology-association

No official report on this, and I guess everyone with minimal logical brain knows this will never happen anyway, since children are not legally responsible (which means no one can ever pass a law when one part cannot make legal choices).

So what's this thread doing here in the first place?

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posted July 27, 2015 10:37 AM            

EXACTLY!!!!!!!!!

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posted July 27, 2015 10:38 AM            

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posted July 28, 2015 11:26 AM            

This is how social engineering works. You should investigate techniques used to demoralise a society.( Destroy it from within). 

With all due respect, Swanlake, I think it is you who has accepted a two year old hoax as some kind of fact. I have accepted nothing BUT I judge a person by their actions not what they are attracted to.

Perhaps you are so easily led as to change your moral parameters because you see an article quoted and a few professional letters tossed in. Dont project that on me please.

posted July 28, 2015 11:29 AM            

Does the medical community consider pedophilia to be a mental disorder?

Yes. The American Psychiatric Association (APA) has included pedophilia in its Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders since 1968.

In the DSM, which is updated periodically, pedophilia has been grouped with other paraphilias -- which the APA defines as "recurrent, intense sexually arousing fantasies, sexual urges, or behaviors that involve children, nonhuman subjects, or other non-consenting adults, or the suffering or humiliation of oneself or one's partner."

But the next edition of the DSM -- the DSM 5 -- may instead refer to "pedophilic disorder."

"[Pedophiles] would be diagnosed with pedophilic disorder either if their attractions toward children are causing them guilt, anxiety, alienation, or difficulty in pursuing other personal goals, or else if their urges cause them to approach children for sexual gratification in real life," Blanchard says.

Can pedophilia be treated?

Yes. Although most experts do not think a person's feelings of pedophilia are curable, therapy may help them manage those feelings and not act on them.

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posted July 29, 2015 02:33 AM            

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Originally posted by ikja:
Well, I mean... I agree that paedophilla is a sexual preference; as it describes a sexual desire directed towards children. However, I DO NOT think it is an acceptable sexual preference. Therefore, it shouldn't be classified as a sexual orientation. That suggests it's ok - it's not.

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The description of sexual orientation is attraction or non attraction to the GENDER of your choice. Children arent a gender...

posted July 29, 2015 08:54 AM            

Thank you. You have restored my faith in humanity for the day

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posted July 30, 2015 06:02 AM            

I do understand your concerns. I am concerned about this too.

However, the normalisation of paedophilia, and/or, the over-sexualisation of children, has been happening for a while now, in particular in the music media. Check out Rhianna's videos - what is the age range that her music is aimed at? I have witnessed 6 year olds singing her songs and imitating her "dances".

She is only one. Listen to pop lyrics, and watch the videos.

This crap is everywhere.

I am more concerned about this as children are being fed this day in day out. And adults are also consuming it, so it is also being normalised in their brains.

People are too proud to admit their malleability, and so they consume this media like they are immune to the messages.

There are very intelligent people working for the media, who have specialist knowledge in legal mind control, for lack of a better term.

posted July 30, 2015 08:29 AM            

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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
I think it is sad how uneducated people are. People do not have to BELIEVE as I do. However, to be uneducated is a crime. If you want to be free and in a free society, you should educate yourselves.

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Your job is to moderate, not bait.

And Ami, you really aren't fit for the job of moderator here, since you're homophobic, and this is a forum that deals with sensitive issues pertaining to sex. You have a serious, negative bias that compels you to liken gays with pedophiles...you know, "the slippery slope."

It's not acceptable. It's exactly as inappropriate as it would be to have a vocal anti-semite moderating Divine Diversities.

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posted July 30, 2015 04:51 PM            

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Originally posted by Aquacheeka:
Ami is a mod who likes to troll. Don't pay it any mind you're just giving the attention ho what it wants.

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