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Lei_Kuei
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posted October 25, 2015 07:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lei_Kuei     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Historically, though not so much from the Shakespearean side of the fence (yet it was of course… during that time period where the term (She Wolves) was coined, or atleast became the fashionable reference) I have always found such women fascinating…

Perhaps in modern times the notion of powerful/strong women (at least in the west) is not only far more acceptable, but has also lost the same connotations of public fear/respect/awe/reverence that Queen Isabella of France would have been greeted with in the Middle Ages… when she forcibly took over England from her decadent husband… which was an extraordinary feat given the times.

Yet I specifically feel that in our own era “mentally” strong women are frowned upon (publicly), especially heterosexual women… It’s seems fine/acceptable for Lesbian’s in some cases (perhaps as long as such is them trying to be “men” in peoples eyes), but Gods forbid a woman of Pure Feminine Grace with a Mind of Tempered Steel from ever rising up in the true power structure of our world… and who’s opinion carries real weight beyond the realms of a glossy magazine or a public holiday celebration?

No… these women are generally only assigned some glamour roles in the entertainment industry (or Diplomatic wet Noodles), and even then it’s hard to know if such is merely an “act” (or as only a fictional character and generally with an evil demeanour).

Though it’s fair to say, that it’s likely these same Wolves/Ice Queen women (including Isabella herself) that if in power long enough, would very much gravitate towards a Lawful Evil Empire (because peoples notion of “Good” can also = “Weak”, and they would know and aim to exploit that psychological fallacy by projecting a more strict/cruel persona).

But perhaps as a society, we could stand to learn much about ourselves under such a regime that is ruled by a proper Ice Queen. A woman who’s Intellect and Beauty are truly awe inspiring, and that are held as equally virtuous pursuits by the women of the same era, and revered by it’s men as the desired traits of a partner/wife.

(Oh Im sure there would be an equal amount of problems that would follow suit, with brand new levels and higher orders of messed up… (because I don’t believe for a second that any such system is perfect) but wouldn’t a change be nice?)

All Hail the Queen!

[I.C.E – News (Where Hell hath Frozen Over)]

We now go live to the Queen’s weekly address… where she has just declared that “Etiquette” & “Kendo Training” for both Girls & Boys starting at age 5 will be mandatory in all Public Schools (and kindergartens).

Opponents speculate, such is in an effort to bolster a greater sense of discipline and respect in the coming generation for what will be her new Law reform due to pass in congress at the end of the month...

(Reporter mumbles…) God help us All….


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posted October 25, 2015 11:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for PixieJane     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Lei_Kuei:
Yet I specifically feel that in our own era “mentally” strong women are frowned upon (publicly), especially heterosexual women… It’s seems fine/acceptable for Lesbian’s in some cases (perhaps as long as such is them trying to be “men” in peoples eyes), but Gods forbid a woman of Pure Feminine Grace with a Mind of Tempered Steel from ever rising up in the true power structure of our world… and who’s opinion carries real weight beyond the realms of a glossy magazine or a public holiday celebration?

I've seen that, but there are mixed messages.

Female characters are allowed much more versatility in their roles by the media, and Esquire called Emilia Clarke (who plays Daenerys Targaryen in Game of Thrones) the "sexiest woman alive." Partially it's her role as a ruthless woman, though I got the impression it was her LOOKS rather than any aura she gives off or role she plays. Sometimes I think they have strong and even kickass women (or even little girls, thinking of Hit Girl--who also cussed up a storm in the movie but I think she said she got in trouble when she was caught talking like that "out of script"--in the movie actually called Kick-Ass ) because it combines the best of good looking women and violence (so male audiences don't have to choose), or even for a laugh.

(That said, how women, and even young males, are treated in Hollywood--as sex toys--if they want the part is infamous. And also look back to when Stewart cheated on her boyfriend with a married director, the male and female wrath was focused on Stewart while mostly ignoring that a MARRIED MAN with children and her director was also involved, as if for him it was an understandable flaw but a terrible sin in the younger woman--this implies that women are the stronger gender, btw, and puts men in the same moral realm as children, but people usually don't take time to think about the implications.)

It's also worth noting that media made by women for women has a strong tendency to make women either weak (at least in need of saving, probably several times) or villainous (and though strong men can be good or evil, offhand I can't recall any "weak" man as heroic, though possibly an adviser--probably more to the hero, and a good chance of at least being speculated as being gay or at least with no female love interest of his own--and interesting enough, when men do the bidding of evil women, the woman still gets more of the blame, as if the man couldn't help himself). Even when they try to do otherwise, they usually fall back to the tired formula in the end (or maybe the editors do to make it "marketable" and I did read a book on how to write romance novels that gave some strict rules on how to portray men and women if you wanted to be published--though in this case, it's also interesting in that would-be male authors of romance were encouraged to take a female pseudonym...and I'd love to be able to see how the reaction to 50 Shades of Grey would've been different if penned by a man).

Personally, I'm glad I was raised on media in which the Edward Cullens and Christian Greys were the villains rather than love interests. I believe my entire life would have been different (for the worst) otherwise.

Outside of the media, it's less murky, and even successful women are more judged by their desirability to men (to a lesser extent this also applies to men, but the difference is it's A factor for men, where it's usually THE PRIMARY factor for a woman, and also the way to hurt her the most, and enemies of a woman will almost always target her looks and desirability as a partner to anything else of her personality or accomplishments). Heck, I'd point out LL posts, including a couple made this very day, save that I know the people referred to would irrationally feel under attack (though I mean to point to their experiences rather than them, but they'll feel judged rather than connected to, throw a fit, and never forget it if I don't explain, but if I do explain they'll say they knew which my Pluto will then find offensive for such blatant lying to me after making me jump through their hoops, and I'm just not up for that today), and therefore I won't. Though that's certainly not universal, I've seen it enough not to be surprised.

That said, despite some "men's rights" type that get really upset over strong women (LK, you'd probably enjoy reading of this, and it doubles as having examples of the type of men I'm referring to who got really upset at the very idea of him having hacked his daughter's game to do that), I've actually gotten more support from guys than other women, generally speaking, for being myself and standing up for myself. Even some feminists don't like me because they feel I should play the victim more (note, I said SOME).

Men have their own bogey: of being considered feminine, which is weak. The preferred insult is to attack their masculinity by calling them names implying they're weak, passive, feminine (female body parts, gay, etc)--interesting enough, even "pretty boy" can be (though not always) an insult! One thing I've found confusing is why more females don't get insulted watching that, because in doing so males are (knowingly or not) showing contempt for all femininity and anything they'd **** as well as for the guys they insult that way, but if anything females are likely to join in such taunts or contempt, if they involve themselves at all. (Also think of what "fag" and "**** " have in common...if you'd let a dick touch you out of wedlock, then you're despicable.)

But going back to the murky side of the media...I love this dialog! (The person Gillian Anderson's character was talking to could've just as easily been a woman as well as a man.)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e2sj3A9sK6U

On a more esoteric level, I believe religions that portray God as the Father also contribute to this. OBVIOUSLY (or it should be) I don't mean that it always work out that way (and can't forget Joan of Arc, speaking of historical women) but if someone is really into that, then they almost always (but not "every single time always") embrace the maxim that women are more fallible and to blame than men. Though interesting enough, a radical group of feminists I've known embraced the Goddess, and only the Goddess...some say those who do that just make "Jehovah in drag" with similar end results (if reversed on the gender spectrum). If people want to anthropomorphize God/dess then I think it's best to have many male and female deities of different roles to remind people that ideal forms come in many varieties in both (all?) genders.

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posted October 25, 2015 11:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for PixieJane     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Btw, the Lawful Evil woman who made me shudder upon first reading her story is Irene of Athens. It was in a vividly illustrated book as well, which included the scene of having her son's eyes gouged out so that he couldn't take her throne!

You might also find this thread of interest:
http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum24/HTML/232356.html

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posted October 25, 2015 11:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for PixieJane     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
And for your viewing pleasure, an illustration of a woman (looks elven) from the future as depicted by the Shadowrun series (this is supposed to be of a magical order, but which one isn't specified), though I think it makes for a good Halloween pic, too (combining sexy with scary):

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posted October 25, 2015 11:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for PixieJane     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You might like this scene from Babylon 5 as well, the one woman you do NOT frack with!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RaSmassvv4w

(*Now that I used "frack" I'm thinking of BSG, too, so many strong women of various types there, with the men just as strong.)

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posted October 26, 2015 02:57 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lei_Kuei     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
@Pix: Thanks for posting all of what you have, been reading and following the subsequent links and it’s of course a very complex issue, and also one that seems very taboo when mixing the concepts of “Women with Power”…

It’s also worth mentioning that even in Isabella’s case she slept with Roger Mortimer …who became a great asset to her in being able to oust the King of England (her husband).

I have often wondered if that was her plan all along, or that such notions of conquest just developed between the sheets of a certain other type of unmentionable conquest lol… Perhaps we shall never know, but it’s interesting.

^^Yet speaking briefly of BSG, where in some regard a similar motif is at play (Strong Female & Male Lead) but under different circumstances which I feel was handled brilliantly…

The Female (Ice Queen) President/Diplomat aided by her Right Hand Military Commander (Father Figure Male) who make a dominating pairing, and seemed to have all the bases covered with regards to cohesive and steady leadership… in a society and situation where all manner of civility could have easily been thrown out the cargo bay airlock.

(I’d hate to post a spoiler in relation to BSG but wow… Laura was pretty interesting back on Caprica before the war… hot lol!)

Oh and I loved the Donkey Kong hack btw, yet while I myself do not have children I can empathize with the Father who made the Princess mod, because I know that without a doubt I’d have done the exact same thing if my daughter asked a similar question lol…

Though I would have taken it a step further, and made multiple female characters and ones that were clearly “dark” themed… just to see which Princesses(s) my daughter gravitated towards on her own without any input from me lol… (Cause modding games is a favoured past time of mine hehe).

Ofc, I’d have her watch some Disney movies first so she had an understanding of how Evil female leads are portrayed with regards to color/style and audio references… Ahh my daughter would be thoroughly spoiled for choice lol…

A Little Ice Queen in the making hue hue

More later…


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posted October 26, 2015 05:15 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for aquaguy91     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Margaret Thatcher!

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Lei_Kuei
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posted October 26, 2015 03:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lei_Kuei     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ahhh yes England’s last Iron Lady, though again such was over 30 years ago when she first became Prime Minister… (might as well have been 300 years ago given the kind of world we live in these days, and it’s doubtless anyone under 24/25 and outside of the UK has even heard of her… Heck, I forgot about her and I live in Ireland lol…!)

Also she was 53/54 when she took the office of PM (Married & with Children), and not exactly a pin-up Sorceress Edea in reference to beauty… (and that’s just my opinion btw) but power (which she had) carries with it a sexual air that still has it’s charms.

Angela Murkel (51 when she became Chancellor) is another head of state, though I’d expect Maggie would spin in her grave if I made a comparison between them…

(It seems fine for older married women to achieve this feat?)

Yet is it simply just too taboo for an Incredibly Intelligent & Beautiful Woman to ever hold a similar head of state while under the age of say… 40, 35, 30? (And NOT a Diplomatic Wet Noodle).

I assume no such Younger/Single women exist right, or ever have existed… or by all rights should exist?

Is there a reason for this I wonder, why does our world seem to have such an aversion to this possibility? Where are all the Ice Queen’s gone…. Oh right, those glossy magazines…. Silly me [Slaps Head]

^^Though reading Pixie’s posts, it’s sadly clear as to why this is so.

However change in inevitable…

Sooner or later this world will have its Empress/Ice Queen, a fact more likely with the coming of a One World Government…. And perhaps it’s simply what they (She Wolves) have cleverly been waiting for… “Absolute Power”… :D

(Madame President!)

Why go through the effort to become Queen of a single nation/country when you can Rule the Planet (or All 12 Colonies) hue hue…

Yet I do expect the initial Female World Presidents will indeed be over 45+ years old when they take power, but this age ceiling will decrees dramatically because of how technology will augment peoples Intellect & Beauty in the coming decades (that is if the world continues on its current path).

But with all of the above, such will bring a brand new plethora of societal problems for us all to quibble over… (Perhaps much like the Middle Ages on repeat) oh what fun!


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posted October 27, 2015 12:50 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dancing Maenad     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well, we do have dominatrices. There's a whole subculture out there (and it's not all so sexual) that is centered around Female Supremacy.

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posted October 27, 2015 01:03 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lei_Kuei     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Well, we do have dominatrices. There's a whole subculture out there (and it's not all so sexual) that is centered around Female Supremacy.

Right board... probably the wrong thread, but definitely relevant lol... :D

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posted October 27, 2015 08:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Soltze     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Lei_Kuei:
Ahhh yes England’s last Iron Lady, though again such was over 30 years ago when she first became Prime Minister… (might as well have been 300 years ago given the kind of world we live in these days, and it’s doubtless anyone under 24/25 and outside of the UK has even heard of her… Heck, I forgot about her and I live in Ireland lol…!)

Also she was 53/54 when she took the office of PM (Married & with Children), and not exactly a pin-up Sorceress Edea in reference to beauty… (and that’s just my opinion btw) but power (which she had) carries with it a sexual air that still has it’s charms.

Angela Murkel (51 when she became Chancellor) is another head of state, though I’d expect Maggie would spin in her grave if I made a comparison between them…

(It seems fine for older married women to achieve this feat?)

Yet is it simply just too taboo for an Incredibly Intelligent & Beautiful Woman to ever hold a similar head of state while under the age of say… 40, 35, 30? (And NOT a Diplomatic Wet Noodle).

I assume no such Younger/Single women exist right, or ever have existed… or by all rights should exist?

Is there a reason for this I wonder, why does our world seem to have such an aversion to this possibility? Where are all the Ice Queen’s gone…. Oh right, those glossy magazines…. Silly me [Slaps Head]

^^Though reading Pixie’s posts, it’s sadly clear as to why this is so.

However change in inevitable…

Sooner or later this world will have its Empress/Ice Queen, a fact more likely with the coming of a One World Government…. And perhaps it’s simply what they (She Wolves) have cleverly been waiting for… “Absolute Power”…

(Madame President!)

Why go through the effort to become Queen of a single nation/country when you can Rule the Planet (or All 12 Colonies) hue hue…

Yet I do expect the initial Female World Presidents will indeed be over 45+ years old when they take power, but this age ceiling will decrees dramatically because of how technology will augment peoples Intellect & Beauty in the coming decades (that is if the world continues on its current path).

But with all of the above, such will bring a brand new plethora of societal problems for us all to quibble over… (Perhaps much like the Middle Ages on repeat) oh what fun!


This is very interesting. But I believe it depends on cultural context.
In my country no PM was elected under their 40s+ woman or man.
But yes, I can see how a young woman in a position of power can be a taboo.
Sexists always tend to imply she got there because of beauty not merit.

It also saddens me to listen to women researchers with long experience being referred to as the "former student of Mr. ____" instead of being remembered by their name and achievements.

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posted October 28, 2015 04:43 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lei_Kuei     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I do understand the cultural context of what you said with regards to age and gaining positions of Political power (there are ofc ALOT of factors involved). And I have no Illusions of some 30 year old becoming US president anytime soon… male or female…

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But yes, I can see how a young woman in a position of power can be a taboo. Sexists always tend to imply she got there because of beauty not merit.

Just throwing this out there… For example, if you were a Beautiful Woman and you also had designs on becoming a President or CEO of a company, should you just give up and say… this is a man’s world I'm fraking done…

What about the concept of a woman actually gaining Power (Im speaking with regards to Political/Corporate) via her Beauty.

Or

What if a Woman both used her Intellect & Sexual Allurement to reach the Top of such an institution….? Because much of a woman’s natural Power stems from subversive/darker Yin Energy? (Yet I think the media/society has corrupted this and blanket labeled it “Evil”) Or are such women always going to be held in contempt…

(Yes I do mean sleeping her way to the top!), is such wrong? (Queen Isabella done so btw), do you think that men don’t use Sex to reach similar positions of Power? (The general difference is… they seem able to hide this better because their Yin mistresses are by nature “Hidden”).

Because in my view: Power & Sex are as interchangeable as Beauty & Power…!
And you can mix and match as needed per one’s requirements, be that gaining control of 51% of a companies stock… or climbing a Political ladder… Such are Game’s you chose to play… I see nothing as taboo under such conditions lol… :D Is it just that this era’s women didn’t get that Memo, did the men shred it before it reached their desk??

Is that why Feminist are so mad… Omg we don’t know WHAT the rules are, but all we know is… we are definitely losing this Game…! eh yea, there are no rules lol! Why do you think the world is a Gods damn mess hue hue…

(That’s why I suggest classes of “Etiquette” be mandatory once a True Ice Queen Climbs the Ladder lol)

^^And understand clearly, the only Woman who will likely ever reach the top in a “Man’s World” is an Ice Queen / Lawful Evil… the first one anyhow! And such women generally don’t wear trouser suits! (Well perhaps leather one’s maybe lol…)

Though for a woman to hold a position of Public Power… it’s going to be completely obvious if she has smarts or not, unless she is just a fabulous actress and reading from a script… but a reporter would likely catch her out at some point… (wait… aren’t men being caught doing such constantly lol!)

And just thought I’d share this btw… (Not sure of I agree with everything in it but its well worth a look!)

(Documentary – Why Beauty Matters!) http://vimeo.com/112655231

^^It’s more in relation to Art, but then Women have almost always been the subject matter when Art is involved on some level…


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posted October 29, 2015 07:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Soltze     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I've never seen any man sleep their way to the top. Sorry, but I don't know what you're talking about. Well not in my country usually LOL

And women doing that is very demeaning to the female gender as a whole.

For me an Ice Queen is a woman who keeps her cool, who's effective, persistent. Who plays fair and reaches the top because of her merits. She is not corrupt so she has the right to be cold and stand her ground when crossed.
She's not the leader because she had sex with half the office. Even a prostitute can do that...everybody can.

Being strong, that's only for special women.

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posted October 29, 2015 10:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for PixieJane     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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And just thought I’d share this btw… (Not sure of I agree with everything in it but its well worth a look!)

(Documentary – Why Beauty Matters!) http://vimeo.com/112655231


I'm loving this (note to self so I can continue later: leaving off at 25:40). Just so people know, it's not about "feminine beauty" in particular, but about beauty in the world.

The part I just saw reminded me of the happiest times in my life. It wasn't buying something, it wasn't even sex, it was where I was surrounded by beauty. Windsurfing when the clouds parted to let the sun through so that the gray waters turned a brilliant aqua green; another time it's the sun shining just right through the clouds; trees and flowers waving in the wind as I exult in the sight, feeling my own hair flow in the wind along with the trees and flowers, feeling part of it all (and as he said, "timeless moments")...when I die, if my life flashes before my eyes, those are the replays that will let me know all the bad was worth it. (Of course it's nice to share with others.)

And I also know what he means about the "utility" that people understand. I let a guy live with me because he made me laugh so much and so hard (and also did errands). That's actually worth a lot of money to hire others to provide these things, but it was still too abstract for most others to understand, because there was no contract or exchange for cash (consumerism and jobism that dominates the US mindset). And laughter, like beauty, gives strength against all that's bad in the world, and even helps nurture what is good.

Ugliness not only inspires more toxic states of being but is also a symbol of it. I used to live in one neighborhood where vandalism and such was terrible. I came to realize that people who lived there did not want to, it was either until they found something better, or because they had given up, and the vandalism and other such stuff was a symptom of that feeling on the worthlessness of the place, rather than pulling together to make it a nice place to live. And as the guy in the video said, the vandals were just finishing the job of destroying the soulless place.

I know I wasn't the only kid who'd prefer to live poor and loved than rich and unwanted, despite the adults who chose wealth/utility over beauty.

Even when I was very poor, I remember being so moved by the Chinese and Japanese gardens in Portland, Oregon, that I gave a significant amount (for me) to the upkeep because they lifted my spirit so and I felt that they were important.

That reminds me, even during the Lawful Evil times of Japan (at least before the 20th century) they, like other warrior cultures (including Vikings, btw) had a love for beauty. It was to the point that their armor was very pretty, like so:

(And I vaguely recall reading of some Chinese execution centuries ago, where the condemned was granted his last request: to await the time of execution in his beautiful Chinese garden--under guard, of course.)

That lingers in their fashion, their politics (they'll even decorate battleships with say chrysanthemum, like this) , and especially their anime. I LOVE this AMV:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ONtgGasyG5U


Anyway, I got about 5 minutes left, so that's it for now.

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posted October 29, 2015 10:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for PixieJane     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I just recalled!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stendhal_syndrome

Out of curiosity, I'd really like to get to know someone who has this...

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posted October 30, 2015 12:37 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lei_Kuei     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have a post I’m working on in relation to “Beauty (In the Work Place)”, and it started of as a small anecdote but has grown into a full blown essay at this point (over 5k words);

I think I’ll make a new thread about it, and interestingly it very much ties in with Japan and that same time period as you (Pixie) just mentioned, as well as what you said about the guy who brought laughter into your life, and that which you placed a high value on with regards to such an intangible resource of Beauty (laughter)… a resource that not many would accept as worth while in relation to the monetary value it may have cost you.

And as an Artist… I do agree with the concept of “Beauty Matters”…

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posted October 31, 2015 04:37 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for PixieJane     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Lei_Kuei:
(Documentary – Why Beauty Matters!) http://vimeo.com/112655231

^^It’s more in relation to Art, but then Women have almost always been the subject matter when Art is involved on some level…


For the brief summary, you can get it at about 50:35 - 52:45 and 57:10 - 58:20. Just saying for those who are curious but don't have time for all of it.

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