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posted October 21, 2019 05:10 PM            

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posted October 26, 2019 11:13 AM            

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It used to be a lot worse, and I'm not thinking about cliques at all. Just in general. It was a lot busier, which would contribute to it.

Most weren't banned, either. They left, or asked to be unregistered. One person who created the drama between facebook and here, left a couple of years ago. She was behind it all, and I ended up coming back here, because she'd been harassing me on facebook and on another site, so leaving hadn't changed a thing. She was harassing other people, too, with fake names. She catfished one friend, and got her involved in it all, caused trouble for her. I wonder what her deal was, but no explanation would be good enough.

So, that's why I'm still here. Plus, I'm just alone a lot. It's habit. If I had more to do, I wouldn't be here at all. My anxiety has been up, so I'm ducking out now. Goodnight.

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Woooowee. I remember that. What a clusterf**k. People would have to try pretty dang hard to top that mess.

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posted October 26, 2019 01:25 PM            

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posted October 28, 2019 05:47 PM            

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Weird that this was bumped. I was thinking about it, and how I did feel defensive, coming here for years, after something happened.

I started to write about it, but my thoughts are all over the place - but after something happened nine years ago, I had exactly the same reaction as Moonbeth did here, only I didn't start a thread, I just kept losing my temper in response to a few people, before leaving for a while. I didn't feel comfortable here for a long time after that. Always felt on my guard. Back in April, when someone was causing trouble in the Astrology forum, she sounded like the person who harassed me for years, on and off, when she was behind a fake profile. That was why I told a moderator about her. She even avoided responding to me, in that thread in which she was banned, and when she was posting under someone else's name (can't remember who, but it was the same woman from April), just like the person behind the drama did in the past. I didn't know if it was another of her fake usernames. I still don't know if anything she said about her life was real, or why she focused on me, a friend, and a few other people, to sh*t on.   

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Weird that this was bumped. I was thinking about it, and how I did feel defensive, coming here for years, after something happened.

I started to write about it, but my thoughts are all over the place - but after something happened nine years ago, I had exactly the same reaction as Moonbeth did here, only I didn't start a thread, I just kept losing my temper in response to a few people, before leaving for a while. I didn't feel comfortable here for a long time after that. Always felt on my guard. Back in April, when someone was causing trouble in the Astrology forum, she sounded like the person who harassed me for years, on and off, when she was behind a fake profile. That was why I told a moderator about her. She even avoided responding to me, in that thread in which she was banned, and when she was posting under someone else's name (can't remember who, but it was the same woman from April), just like the person behind the drama did in the past. I didn't know if it was another of her fake usernames. I still don't know if anything she said about her life was real, or why she focused on me, a friend, and a few other people, to sh*t on.   

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Hey love,
Lovely seeing you 😊
I would argue starting the thread IS my reaction lol
I simply refuse to keep those negative feelings in, especially if they come from outside, festering isn't healthy,and the reason I know that is because I have been there. I so understand the feelings you described, about fearing everyone, suspecting people to come back with other names because it has been done already, being a target, it's awful.
The only little remedy is focusing on the positives, the usernames who you know are the fronts of good people, the rest? Engage, sure, communicate, but don't commit. Those are my personal ground rules on the net.
Someone says something that upsets me, if I have a minimum of trust in them, i express it, sort it out. If I don't, I hold my peace and make a little mental note, if I collect too many of those, I quietly walk out.
Someone attacks or is unpleasant, I don't entertain them any longer and politely part ways, I don't read it if they keep on barking after I'm gone, let them have the last word, dogs need bones, they show up in my posts, I ignore them. I do care, but not about them or being seen or validated by them, so I walk: light and free 😻
The trick is to never blend emotions and danger, only allow yourself to type if the emotions are safe.
Someone is being a jackass to someone you like? Only intervened if you're zen.
Emotions will be felt, but words don't have to be typed, all it takes is a step back to appreciate both whether you should be typing and whether the other person is displaying any such ethics.
Anyone can accidentally upset someone else, but harrassment is a work, if you sense that effort in someone, gracefully distance yourself so you can see more clearly.
If you can't find that distance, that's when you know you are putting yourself in danger and it's your job to put yourself in check.
I wrote this post because I refuse to go through what you've been through again, I wrote this post because we can all find the balance between freedom of expression and insult, but it's a constant choice.
Today I've chosen to speak, because I give zero sods about the nuisance but cared about a situation.
Tomorrow I'll shut up because I'll be upset and I don't want that energy here, upset is biased, upset is fragile, it's my job to be strong on the net, that's how I protect myself. If I can't do that, then I don't log.
I worry about you teasel, you have said you're sad and you seem to still vividly carry the weight of those horrendous experiences here, what is preventing you to let go and move on?
Why is that person still allowed to hurt you?
I don't know how to help but if I can, please let know how 🤗

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posted November 16, 2019 12:42 PM            

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posted March 07, 2020 01:54 PM              

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Nevermind, I have it all figured 🤣

Sometimes Randall, I wonder whether you bump these threads just to start **** and follow while eating popcorn 😝😂

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Nah, I'm not a big fan of popcorn.

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posted March 07, 2020 05:25 PM              

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Hahahahaha 😂😂😂

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I'm glad I can cheer you up.

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posted March 08, 2020 10:19 PM              

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ehhh, you do have some serious competition with boomers lecturing me about my needs and playing prophet on me based on their biased reading of my chart (that they actually bother to look for, because obsession stops at nothing to yell it's "right" whatever the bloody hell that means, I mean, one is usually right when they argue with themselves as they refuse to see you are not humouring them or accepting their attacks) just because they can't read a ******* a whole paragraph and ignore the meaning of a ******* modal. That's hardcore absurd theatre right there, something hard to beat in terms of entertainment.... but yeah, I do prefer your brand of practical humour to the ridicule of entitled arseholerie, it's realer and, well, more earthy 😊
I will clean as many posts as I can and leave at some point as I think astrology deserves better than what some people make it here, but until I grow their brand of egos, it's only about me and I have to say I don't really care. Or actually I do, just not how they intend me to. The men here remind me of my rapist. He sure had power over me, he forced himself on me, left scars, physical and emotional ones, just like those men use their age, experience, knowledge, research, charts, including our own, to tell us who we are and how they KNOW (bleeding eejits, feeling superior should be anyone's first clue that they're full of shite) just like my rapist drooled in my ears that I had to admit I was, after all, wanting it, enabling it, enjoying it, even though he had to literally tear my vagina open with his nails to get his dirty flesh in, a crystal clear sign of desire and consent.
They push and shove and force and then they establish truth, fact with nothing but their pathetic subjectivities, these men and their voices that they work so hard at glorifying, justifying, ennobling in their own eyes with studies, money... whatever their idea of success is, only to see it ignored because of how they choose to impose it.
It's interesting too how most of them pose as wise old cats, but rub them a way that potentially could be wrong and the true colours show up. Rapists, whether they go for your body or your mind, they are all the same, they all reek of that same void, that same cold, that same carelessness, they all collect these interesting things about them that are ruined in their moments of self-proclaimed truth, because they never speak as proudly as when they belittle or despise someone else.
It feels so eerie thinking about this now, I had not thought of that person since a few years after the initial therapy, when I finally felt healed and had healthy relationships that proved it to me, god, even that feels like decades ago... the rape, feeling alive again for the first time after. It actually was decades ago. Funny I remember the school bullying a lot better, dear brain... lol
Is it nice that we laugh about it or irresponsible? Do you sometimes think of those users? those apparently young and impressionable girls coming down here and getting terrible readings from so-called seasoned professional who predict them abuse, cheating, short terms only, relationships where "he's only in it for sex", all that wrapped in self-righteous attitudes that take pride in being so direct, so unsympathetic, because this is the "truth"? All these actual, direct violences paradoxically posing as attempts to protect these souls from potential violences... I do. I never do a thing about it though. Because of the men. Not to say women are any better, but billions of years of oppression have made us cooler in that respect somehow, if we go for it, we own more easily to debasing ourselves, spit our fire and then move on. Men come back for it, they insist on you being the fault, disregarding the basic base of basis that it takes two to tango. Men have a mission, men are teachers, men know better. They know what our bodies want, what our souls need, they read into our souls beyond our words (the exact same men who can't spot "may" and translate it as "will" and say they weren't rubbed the wrong way by a minor portion of a post when it's all they react to, and tell you're not honest with yourself when they are the one who couldn't directly address the chip on their shoulder), men rule.
Men remind you you're younger, men can afford to tell you what you meant even after they clearly stated what they got from what you said, and you, sole authority on your self, have explained they were mistaken, because see, if a man doesn't understand you, then you are not to be understood by anyone else. A man's opinion of you, a man's dominance, or attempt at, on you, is sacred. It means more, matters more than anything else.
Then they are all these men who have suffered from other men and while they are not so bad, we still avoid them because they do adopt similar postures here and there. It's already too much for someone who's been raped.
There are lots of ***** in sheep's clothing drinking at your bar Randall, I appreciate and despise the fact it's amusing to you, and the fact it amuses me too. All in equal measure.
What I do know is that knowledge is power and as such astrology corrupts just as much as anything else. Let them think they rape me, they dominate me, with their knowledge, their maturity, let them believe they have seen me, or listened to me, even heard me. They have not. For if they had their prophecies would come to pass and I would bleed and ache as I have, and I don't. As I've said, I do care that pestilence swarms within my reach, but I still feel it's not about me, just like that man who raped me failed to see me entirely. He isolated a portion of a paragraph too, changed a modal in his own mind too, and fiercely acted on it with the conviction of a billion apostles too. Because that's what men do. Men and all those who support them in silence, because they fear them. I had one in me against my will, there is nothing to fear. I remain unimpressed.

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It doesn't amuse me. I just bumped this to see how you were doing.

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That's sound, I used to laugh everything off, not as sound as it sounds.
Now you know I'm good, and asking myself a lot of questions, and concerned about ill behaviours that are often somehow allowed by us as a whole because they are not their extreme counterparts. Tis silly, such ills should be nipped in the bud. But it's complicated and we're a lazy species...

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posted October 07, 2020 06:00 AM            

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For me the hey-day of LindaLand was the mid 200os. Like 2006-2012 I was here a LOT. I learned so much from really kind people. Some of you are in this thread!!! Different user name back then. And it just felt really different and joyful and fun. Then it got awful and I left for a few years. Came back some years ago with new name and it's "better" I think but not the same as the "old days". But I find my people here still, and always come back, even after huge breaks cause this is like some weird family and we can't resist each other!
You know, I STILL haven't started to learn astrology in a formal way lol. Yet it's a huge part of my life! I guess I'm just waiting for the "right course" to cross my path and oh yeah, for the other million things I'm busy with in life to make some room...
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posted October 07, 2020 09:02 AM            

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Wish I'd been aware of this thread back in March 2020, but better late than never.

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posted October 07, 2020 11:45 AM            

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What happened to CapGemini. They still here in Linda Land?

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posted October 19, 2020 04:19 PM            

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Wish I'd been aware of this thread back in March 2020, but better late than never.

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Graham, me too!

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Moonbeth ,
  You seem gone unless you now lurk. I'm over a year tardy. Yikes. Mercury  is rx now.

I thought your post was very well-written. I agree with  a lot  of experiences I have over the years had too.

Not by many but the ones I think like me, I sometime wonder tbh. I've countered many biased views by the sign I carry 3x ~ Aqua. Kinda like a certain discrimination.
 
 As for those that may well be here, in all honesty when I arrived to LL, from the beginning  I knew I was in over my head, I've felt a bit mocked many times. My education
is very meager. I'm certain most can sense that and some may judge that as well as my off beat nature. Well again, Aqua3.

I came to take my mind from troubles in life, a string of losses. Were that string made of pearls, I'd be the wisest one here and probably wealthy to boot! I knocked my head about these charts, boards, reading and collection of data. I fell into the asteroid area - a way too long time. Although I can not tell anyone luminosity or speed of those gems, I can detail possible meanings.
 I think of them as a type of 'enhancers to add to the pictire'. Tarot readers all see stories from different lenses. Why not astrology?! I get laughed at ~ I'm  certain. In 200 years, maybe these nonsensical litlle gems will be treated more seriously.  I don't care tbh. They took me away from completely having  the tears I would have cried otherwise.
As well, if anyone popped in that board to inquire of specific ones, I may have had some kernel to offer. Enjoying the help I may have offered.

 But my vision was tunneled by living there.
The other boards, I simply didn't feel I belonged at. Often threads die once I touch them. Can't please everyone. With me, I may well only please just myself. 
I am now concentrating on another side of the site, I like that one. People there seem genuinely nice. No superiority complexes at all, that I have found anyway. In my opinion, astrology is a psychology in essence but in our world so much damage has been done with psycho analysis,  Psychiatric care, psychology etc. I mean lobotomy science came from that .. who thinks that's Humane? I sure in the hell don't.  I'm pro Nature. Everyone heal yourself and seek help if you need it but the healers aren't supposed to villify or experiment on someones body and/or certainly not their psyche!
I've held that in a very long time. Thank you
MoonBeth, you are powerful at moving others. I hope you are well. :bheart;

 Another reason I don't explore all the boards, this place is big, it can get confusing for me on a device to navigate.  Only recently I created a link message to myself for the boards I've been at mostly.

My life just before this chapter on LL was very photo centric, via social media. I threw myself into the Tower moment, pulled plugs and ghosted people. Suffice to say after 2014/15 I'm the ghost. lol Which is better too. I'm not agreeable with much that happens on social media.  It vibrates low, to me in the fish tank you need sucker fish but really .. the whole tank!? Anything using the brain, not lording it over others feels better than keeping up with any Jones's. 
This is only my opinion,  so if you enjoy it, that's yours. (anyone reading in disagreements).

I do most of my internet time on LL. It's far less complicated that way.

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@PixieJane,   I thought it was often clique-ish too. As well I think I agree mostly with all your thoughts. (from 10/13-16/2020),

@Teasel, I can identity with your feelings re 'defensive' .. I had another account when I first came here. Within first couple months, I was ripped to shreds by one user. So I stepped away awhile and created MM to try and ignore any haters that I might deal with, that one was still here then. Honestly I think they created another name and have at times been at me in an underhanded way but I chose to vibe high. I don't want drama and I believe this world  AND LL very much need love and goodness. Enough higher vibed people spread love ~ maybe love will win after all. I was created during the hippie gen. What can I say!? 😊🌸

Whew. So I hope MoonBeth comes back. I think she had threads I responded to maybe back a yr or two. As well .. sending much
🌛💚💛🌸💚💛🌜 to everyone wanting positive experiences here on LL.

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posted October 20, 2020 01:04 AM            

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Woooowee. I remember that. What a clusterf**k. People would have to try pretty dang hard to top that mess.

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They definitely would. That's one of the strangest experiences I've ever had, and it still gets to me at times.

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@Teasel, I can identity with your feelings re 'defensive' .. I had another account when I first came here. Within first couple months, I was ripped to shreds by one user. So I stepped away awhile and created MM to try and ignore any haters that I might deal with, that one was still here then. Honestly I think they created another name and have at times been at me in an underhanded way but I chose to vibe high. I don't want drama and I believe this world  AND LL very much need love and goodness. Enough higher vibed people spread love ~ maybe love will win after all. I was created during the hippie gen. What can I say!? 😊🌸

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I understand. I don't know who has been sniping at you, but I'm sorry to hear it. I've been mocked, too, but it doesn't really bother me anymore. I'm not a great chart reader, I stopped studying astrology, tarot, etc, and I don't trust my reading skills, wouldn't want anyone to take what I say as gospel. I have this huge feeling of responsibility to people that I don't even know.

Do you still use discord? Did you ever sign up? Dumuzi can pass along my username there, if you ever want to talk privately. I'm curious now. I sometimes wonder if that one person I mentioned, has come back under another name, or if they've really moved on. I really used to love this place, and it hurt a lot- it was really traumatic, which sounds silly for something happening online, but it's true.

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Teasel, The one doing it isn't present now .. quiet but my worst experience was with my former username. No real issue for awhile.
I don't want responsibility of them either. I think in tarot it feels each reader is learning. Idk there may be super good one's I've yet to meet. But no tarot should ever be treated like it's finite. So much can change any outcome. There are variants of outcomes. Each reader sees a different one(s) or tells the tales in different ways. It's sad if anyone really might be overly serious. I hope I was of help but understand if I was not accurate. I'm new and life is never finite with any of our storylines.

No discord here anymore, my device is too short in space allowance .. and Dumuzi doesn't recognize my hellos here so that's kinda odd. But ok. lol I'm probably too dull to chat with and I understand.
He seems well and that is great if so, I hope so. He is good hearted. I think he seems more balanced again by him
threads I ran past. If I get around to getting a storage card I could try it again but idk when I am able.

No this person was not from usa. At least they exemplified themselves as European I think. It was around 2015 iir. But the one I wondered if it was them is a regular here but been gone some months I think or using alternative name. No clue.
I am sorry someone was so mean. Thst is psychotic. Online there are some devious characters. That's why I prefer more simple places yet nothing on net is sacred in 2020.

I saw your Ironic Alanis Morrisete vid.
I wondered what you meant by it. You said it was a good one to talk about. Is that a
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understand. I don't know who has been sniping at you, but I'm sorry to hear it. I've been mocked, too, but it doesn't really bother me anymore. I'm not a great chart reader, I stopped studying astrology, tarot, etc, and I don't trust my reading skills, wouldn't want anyone to take what I say as gospel. I have this huge feeling of responsibility to people that I don't even know.

Do you still use discord? Did you ever sign up? Dumuzi can pass along my username there, if you ever want to talk privately. I'm curious now. I sometimes wonder if that one person I mentioned, has come back under another name, or if they've really moved on. I really used to love this place, and it hurt a lot- it was really traumatic, which sounds silly for something happening online, but it's true

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