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Moonbeth
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posted October 12, 2019 07:53 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Really.
All my life, astrology was almost a barometer for a person's cool factor, a bit like watching Whedon shows. If people had an interest in it, they usually turned out to be the good kind.

But here? What the bloody hell is wrong with some of you?

Over the years I had witnessed some serious gaslighting, people predicted awful things about their charts and pushed over the edge when they clearly needed soothing, I have seen some very seriously hit people leave this place mentioning death threats... and from the inside, well, it's not much better.

A massive chunk of people behave like such elitist ***** , it's fabulous!
It's as if the knowledge of astrology made them superior, these lords couldn't suffer the slings and arrows of outrageous peasants' thoughts, they are way above that. These folks suffer no fool except they see fools everywhere! They are so entitled, it's plain baffling.

Some call themselves psychic, attuned to energies but can't respect something that is specifically written for them, in very few words (so what? Being psychic makes you illiterate or does it allow you be a dictator and violate others' words on the grounds of your superior fantasised perceptions?), others blame users for perfectly legit misunderstandings and insist on making the people they actually attack into war-mongers... "your stupidity deeply annoyed me, you shall be punished" - get over yourselves.
The messed-up psychological tricks are just fantastic, it's like a flow of ego rashes, a dumpster for the worst human intelligence can turn into.

How the bloody hell did any such thing come to be? I have seen Randall take charge in some posts reminding people of basic rules of courtesy here and there but obviously a LOT of these pedantic, obnoxious stances are plain part of the culture and simply can't be put in check because, well, it would amount to banning a TON of users.

Astrology isn't a hardcore science, it's a human science, if you use it to entitle yourself to behave like human trash you have missed it entirely.

This place should be one of the most fun, weirdo-friendly, open-minded places on the net, instead it way too often amounts to a sorry disappointing hole full of misogynists, homophobes, elitists who barely pretend to discuss with others when they seem to actually masturbate to their own assertions of their own paranormal beliefs while presenting them as rock hard science, fruit of their superior experience. For some the horse seems so high, they'd probably fall to their death coming off of it.

Man, some souls around here need to eat some humble pie ...and possibly choke on it.

Sorry for the negativity, I usually just leave threads that go sour but I've censored myself from participating in too many based on such observation, had to vomit my disappointment somewhere.

I had never understood how people could reject astrology and anything holistic before. But after a mere few weeks on this website I was invaded by images of cons and losers who pretend to have gifts and know better than the common folk when they are just scared ******** of facing life with proper bollocks. These obtuse minds, the anger, the childish vengeances from self-proclaimed professionals is such a disgrace on the subject... So many people around here pretend to know so firmly based on their experience.
I pity he who thinks human experience brings facts and certitudes that defy one's individual subjectivity. So immature.


I'm done, you may proceed to insult or ignore me if you sadly recognised yourself somewhere in there

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teasel
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posted October 12, 2019 10:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for teasel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
???

I'm sure I'm in there, but I'm not going to insult you. I've been just posting and not reading much, because of my own state of mind. I don't think I've seen homophobia, the psychics, I actually have no idea what most of that is about. I know my own experiences are my own experiences, but that's why I speak up when others are attacking based on their own experiences. I was talking about this with a friend, this past week.

I was just going to respond to your other thread, because you were so kind. I'm not angry with anyone in particular, I'm angry with myself (aside from politics). Feeling both ashamed and defensive, just posting here and there, waiting to be attacked for daring to show my "face" after being responsible for an argument starting where it shouldn't have (although I'm not a professional, and have never claimed to be). Trying not to sink further into depression. I've been having trouble sleeping, even when I take something. benadryl usually knocks me out (it works too well), but it hasn't worked this week. I keep waking up, and finally drag myself out of bed.

You're right: some of our attitudes suck. I try not to, but it happens. I don't visit every forum here, so I don't know where the homophobia was, or who else is being obnoxious. I've been trying not to care, when I actually cared too much. I'm sorry this place has sucked for you, though. Even more sorry if I contributed to it. I could choke on some pie. It would solve my own problems, at least.

*edit. I was put off a lot, because of things that happened not just here, but with other supposedly "spiritual" people in the past. I guess I'm just used to it now, but I don't expect so much anymore. People can be kind, and people can suck, no matter where we are.

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PixieJane
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posted October 13, 2019 12:51 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for PixieJane     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm not around anywhere as much as I used to be and I skip A LOT of threads and subforums here at LL.

That said, I actually remember it being worse in the past instead of better (not to say "all is well" now), especially with the cliques that used to constantly provoke each other into constant thread wars and playing the victim (and often creating more drama on other sites where they really worked themselves up and let it spill out onto LL with the rest of us wondering what's going on). Most have left (or got banned).

It seems a lot calmer (if less lively) these days with most posts outside the main astrology ones simply saying something like "bump." If you ignore Global Unity (which I personally think should be separate from LL) then it's not anywhere as dramatic as a great many other places online (though it sure used to be). While I haven't visited other astrology sites in a long while, I don't recall them being better, either.

And while I'm on it, I briefly visited the IMDB boards on Whedon's show many years ago. The flame wars were intense and anything not about the ship wars quickly got hijacked for that (and it was even worse on YT, but of course it's YT). And it had a surprising amount of homophobic and racist content (I took part right around the time Buffy and Satsu had a one night stand in the comics), so I'm not relating to your comment about people and Whedon's shows, either. Ah, memories...it was over a decade before I dared approach a board for anything Whedon related.

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teasel
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posted October 13, 2019 01:36 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for teasel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It used to be a lot worse, and I'm not thinking about cliques at all. Just in general. It was a lot busier, which would contribute to it.

Most weren't banned, either. They left, or asked to be unregistered. One person who created the drama between facebook and here, left a couple of years ago. She was behind it all, and I ended up coming back here, because she'd been harassing me on facebook and on another site, so leaving hadn't changed a thing. She was harassing other people, too, with fake names. She catfished one friend, and got her involved in it all, caused trouble for her. I wonder what her deal was, but no explanation would be good enough.

So, that's why I'm still here. Plus, I'm just alone a lot. It's habit. If I had more to do, I wouldn't be here at all. My anxiety has been up, so I'm ducking out now. Goodnight.

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posted October 13, 2019 02:39 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for anonymidarkness     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Life, I guess.

There are many reasons why someone would doubt accuracy of astrology, mainly because it's such a vast subject, and anyone who has had only surface level of knowledge can only predict and write about it so much, but then again it is a constant learning process and people learn at their own paces, so if someone lags behind, that might be their own choice, or even pace, or they might have other things to do too(can be read as them 'having a life' outside it, Hahh).

Anyway, anyone who comes here for readings would be better off taking them with a pinch of salt, or atleast not make major life decisions just based on some astrology readings or few things they read about how Pisces mens are clingy cheating crying lying bishes, rofl. And if they make a stupid decision based on it too, well thats life too, lolaxx.

About any drama going on, well thats life in my eyes, and if things are like that outside, I don't see why it wouldn't be like this here either, and anyone pretending to be nice and happy all the time here might only be that, "pretending" .

That said, things are actually far less intense and drama-free here than ever before.

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Moonbeth
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posted October 13, 2019 06:13 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you so much for those replies I have to run because of work, so I responded to everything at once quite randomly:

Teasel, love, don't you ever think I'd go sideways if I had an individual beef with someone, and don't you ever think I'd go sideways about anything with you given the darling conversations we've had, ok?
If anything, you are behind that post, because I have seen you be sad over how defensive you have become lately and it's part of what baffles me. It seems there's a culture around here that makes people very defensive, myself included, after having been misread as if attacking or ungrateful, I am defensive in my writing because I know there's just a huge potential for it here, which is counterproductive with anything astrology related, it's not placing an order at Nando's, if you have to do it mechanically, without venturing into grey areas or risking being wrong or inaccurate, then might as well switch from astrology to any subjects that thrives on such Manichean thinking.

The cat-fishing and attacks you describe are just way too much. I don't have facebook or instagram so I'm not much of an online person because of these risks and behaviours but to have them pop from a site dedicated to astrology I still think is a disgrace. Not that it's elegant from social media, but you'd think at least people on FB primarily gather around their egos, which could account for eruptions, what I find crass is people developing ego rashes in the context of gathering around astrology. It's as sad to me as people slaughtering in the name of their faith (I insist on faith and not religion, that's a different bunny).

I remember a post with someone asking for a reading and someone else I think (it's quite blurry on my mind) explained that people weren't giving readings anymore because users then asked for other opinions and sometimes even accepted what was said in the first place but by someone else. So? I mean it's reading 101. All therapists try to achieve the same goal, all teachers of a subject teach the same thing, but they do it differently and a therapist isn't a bad one just because a patient will hear it from another therapist, it's just human chemistry. Not to say everyone is graceful about taking readings (and about that I don't know where I stand, because I've clearly been made to feel as if I had been ungrateful while I honestly wasn't in an upset place, just critically doubting what I was served), as you've said anonymidarkness you have to take it with a pinch (or a handful lol) of salt, but it seems while everyone agrees with that, expressing it is a crime (again, hello ego ^^); it works both ways though; and if it gets heated, well, the person receiving the reading is being judged in their core, their life, it's a little harder to keep your cool when you're in that "client/patient" position than it is for the supposed professional in front. Yet somehow around here, I have seen more "professionals" get upset and resent "askers" when they too should toughen up and accept that they may be wrong or they may be right but fail to communicate it efficiently. The best posters around here actually are like that, writing form a humble place despite decades of experience and massive technical knowledge and education, it's a mystery to me that their stance isn't the norm.

Just to clarify I didn't have any specific username in mind when I typed this, if I had, I would have gone on their posts and asked for a private conversation to sort things out or ignored it all. I was meaning to describe a general behaviour, not people. But that's one thing about this place too, it seems a lot of people complain about attitudes they exhibit themselves, which is why I think it's toxic. No one seems happy with it, but people keep on perpetuating it because everyone is defensive and expecting that behaviour to pop up at any time. So it's really not judgement as I don't think it's some "bad" people making the place that way, it's like a vibe, that turns even the nicest of people into gaping arseholes over the slightest shade of trigger.

As for the whole "it was worse before" speech. I certainly wrote about my entire experience of this site, so that includes a lot of before stuff and also, the idealist and striving to be kind person in me absolutely hates that idea that just because there's worse in some places, it excuses how bad where you are can get. It's as if I had escaped getting stabbed on the street and the police refused to file my complaint and went "you should consider yourself happy, in the states, they have guns and you wouldn't have managed to dodge a bullet the way you dodged that blade". It's just not logic I compute

About Whedon shows Pixie, I'm not in the US at all, by the time it aired, Internet wasn't in the homes in my country so there is no such thing as boards or website attached to this experience for me, I have never read or interacted with people about this in depth online, only in real life, as a teenager (so many moons ago ^^). I kept that way about tv shows, I never experience the internet side of it, sounds like it's a smart move Also, I do have my pride too somewhere and I don't consider fans the best people to talk with because of what you describe (shipping and all that). This has nothing to do with telly for me, if anything those people often don't understand the depth of the subjects tackled in those fictions and stay at a superficial level where they just pour rabid unleashed emotions onto characters.

I think internet life tends to be worse than non-internet life, it's easier to be tough behind a screen and all that.... I'm not saying I'm affected by it, just that it makes astrology look like a fool's endeavour instead of opening it to more people and that it grieves me to see others be so affected at times.
As far as I'm concerned, the only thing I have personally reacted to is the overstepping I've received regarding abuse. I do so for several reasons.
First because if anyone, undergoing abuse reads those posts, I want them to find my voice and know that it's not that black and white and they're not responsible for being victims (the guilt and shame that come with the situation are enough, people who haven't survived abuse yet do NOT need those over-involved-in-their-chart-reading-experience people's opinions that they are attracted to abusive dynamics. It's just shaming and since I somehow trigger it by being in the conversations and opening the subject, the least I can do is voice my opposition as an example for any-who would read those and tragically assume that I agree with that god awful rapist rhetoric that victims are attracted to unhealthy situation and basically have abuse coming).
Second, because it is so ironic that there actually is something massive that happened in my life that affects my private relationships, that is completely chart material that every single proper astrologer I have been to has seen within seconds and no one here has even been close to mentioning it while they jump at "partner abuse", because I mention "abuse" first. Except they all mention abuse I never experienced (I have never been abused by a partner), so when they charge with "my years of research" and "experience" and all that, it makes me laugh because it conveys the image of people so stuck up in degrees and midpoints that people pass them by. Truth is I have never been in an intimate abusive relationship, only very healthy ones. The abuses I went through were entirely different, but those people won't hear it, which proves to me they are not even into astrology so much since they prefer to stick to their faulty statistics and judging malefic aspects (following their own rhetoric these people must assume all things mars, and therefore sex, are bad, which could explain some of their temper ) rather than open up to what they could be misreading and practise proper human science. Since I'm actually not into disclosing too much about myself, I won't expose my private life just to prove them wrong, so I leave, shaking my head in disbelief that people could devote so much time to studying a science and then mar it all with biased and obtuse reading. Again, passed the point where I believe I have a responsibility to underline that dynamic for any fragile soul who may be negatively affected by those conversations and my silence, I have no care for those attitudes.

Again, thanks so much all three of you for your replies, I hope I responded to everything, I'll be back when work lets me breathe again.
Teasel, love, do take real good care, I don't how, I'm far and time deprived, but I do think of you and I really hope you find ways and get yourself to a better place sooner rather than later

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posted October 13, 2019 08:51 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for PixieJane     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Reality tunnels are funny things. Subjective realities feel so objectively real that many can't understand that what they perceive to be true is not true to someone else, and that only someone stupid, brainwashed, crazy, or lying would contradict them. They have opinions, but believe others who have different opinions have issues. There are plenty of books and articles on this (as well as plenty of comedy). Not that everyone does it, but everyone has experienced it.

As for the internet, not only is there not a face to empathize with, but there is no tone. A great many people automatically assume the worst possible tone of voice which doesn't even occur to the poster who is shocked by the vitriolic response. After awhile it wears thin and everyone is walking on broken glass. It doesn't help that some passive aggressive people have misused the hearts, peace signs, and other icons to show a kinder tone in order to get away with piling on the abuse of others so that when others do sincerely use them to convey a gentle or comforting tone it's just not believed because of the gaslighting and such by the passive aggressive misusing the same icons.

And of course astrologers are human. Religious leaders and people thought to be spiritual are as flawed as everyone else, which is coming out more and more. No religion or esoteric group seems above human nature. Studying astrology isn't going to make one more evolved.

And when people spend a lot of time learning about something, they do get fixed ideas. Right or wrong, they can be stubborn and defensive about them. Especially online (particularly now that anger is often rewarded with thumbs up/likes as people love the drama--as opposed to real life where social cues would curb that behavior rather than encourage it--and media companies have a vested interest in keeping people angry and arguing as it ultimately generates more ad revenue more than anything else, even erotic and romantic stuff), the all out viciousness over the most trivial stuff is mind boggling.

I literally knew a troop of Girl Scout Juniors (not even teens yet) who were far more organized and vicious online on a regular basis (until we put a stop to it), as in organized cyber-attacks that were followed up when possible by say vandalism to a school locker or gym clothes at school, that far exceeded what I'm used to here.

Though LL is outdated in its software, I prefer it as upgrading it would make it much worse.

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Originally posted by Moonbeth:
As for the whole "it was worse before" speech. I certainly wrote about my entire experience of this site, so that includes a lot of before stuff and also, the idealist and striving to be kind person in me absolutely hates that idea that just because there's worse in some places, it excuses how bad where you are can get. It's as if I had escaped getting stabbed on the street and the police refused to file my complaint and went "you should consider yourself happy, in the states, they have guns and you wouldn't have managed to dodge a bullet the way you dodged that blade". It's just not logic I compute

You misunderstand. It's not about excusing LL, it's that your rant just comes out of left field. To me, seeing WHAT THE BLOODY HELL IS WRONG WITH THIS PLACE???? was like seeing WHY IS WINTER SO COLD IN OREGON??? and then going on about how it's filled with glaciers or some such. While not entirely wrong (and Oregon does indeed have glaciers), it seems weird because it's mild compared to most other places, but treating it as if Oregon has is especially bad in this way Or maybe WHAT THE BLOODY HELL and referencing something that was common 20+ years ago but not so common today. It's strange why you seem to be singling LL out (though it wouldn't have 10 years ago).

Perhaps your title would've been better as WHAT THE BLOODY HELL IS WRONG WITH ASTROLOGERS ON THE INTERNET???

That said...astrologers, especially online including at LL, have caused me to question astrology far more than the skeptics have.

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Moonbeth
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posted October 14, 2019 02:59 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
O my, Pixie, I almost snapped my neck from all the frantic nodding at what you wrote, I couldn't be more soothed by your acute and so well put perception and analysis of it all. Thank you so much for that
The part about the perversion of smileys really put my neck at risk, SO true!
also, can I use this quote as a signature? " astrologers, especially online including at LL, have caused me to question astrology far more than the skeptics have." This is exactly how I feel and why I had to rant, because I think it's a terribly stupid situation.

But still, it's comforting to read that it's seen in all its excess and absurdity.

oh... at first the Oregon thing was a bit challenging (for some reasons the only thing Oregon makes me think of is pizza, because it looks a bit like oregano lol I'm hopeless ^^) but thanks to your explanation I see exactly what you mean and well, the answer is very simple, I don't read any other place like this one on the net lol I check out websites such as astro.com but for their articles and such... LL is the only forum I have checked out enough to stop there a bit because that's where most of my google searches led to when I tapped outside mainstream aspects readings. So, your misunderstanding and finding my title strange directly comes from your wider perspective. Mine being narrowly "just this site", it makes perfect sense and my title actually describes my question even better than I thought lol, it just needs a little headline to specify I mean "this place" as in "this place, just this place as a thing separate from the rest, on its own" and not "this place "as in "this place compared to other similar places", it's like criticising Starbucks for its own thing but not in relation to what I find at Greggs and Costa

But now, I'm absolutely not checking out other astrological forums if the ok stuff is here
And, another thing I wanted to add about the previous replies.
On the pace and level of everyone. I think ethics should be enough to solve any such issue. The very concept of astrology is either studying it or reading for others, and studying it means reading so I really don't see how there'd be room for obnoxious certitudes from confirmed astrologers. They could have a forum dedicated for experts (the same way we have astrology for beginners), and then it would be somehow fair game for them to be annoyed if people can't or won't discuss progression, recently discovered asteroids, declination and other things that can seem obscure for beginners, but it'd still not be a nice human attitude.
You can take a surgeon being a dick because at the end of the day the surgeon cuts people open without necessarily having to break the news of diagnosis to them. But for an astrologer, like a therapist, a teacher... the contact with the audience is key, so I really see it as counterproductive and an insult to their own abilities and knowledge when astrologers behave in these elitist ways. There is no astrology without people completely oblivious to it paying to get readings, so unless these hot shots found ways to make rent just by sitting with likeminded snubs and jerking off to their "research", then.... may I get in on this career, it actually sounds quite lucrative
Silliness aside, you get my point...
It's no excuse but you can at least see why fancy doctors and rock stars develop ridiculous egos, but astrologers? ... ^^

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posted October 14, 2019 10:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for anonymidarkness     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
^ Come on, don't compare astrologers to doctors, those fckers cant tell when they will have to cut the patient open again.

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posted October 15, 2019 01:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Interesting.

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Moonbeth
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^ Come on, don't compare astrologers to doctors, those fckers cant tell when they will have to cut the patient open again.

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Moonbeth
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Interesting.

I think so too, if I had the mental stamina for it, I'd probably carry a whole social study about the many effects, positive and negative, knowledge and craft have on the human ego...

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posted October 15, 2019 10:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lexxigramer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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^ Come on, don't compare astrologers to doctors, those fckers cant tell when they will have to cut the patient open again.

You are so freaking right!
Those morons have messed me up in many horrible ways.
Astrologers have only given me readings that never panned out.
Rather have that then what damage doctors have done to me and pretty much ruined me for life.

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[QUOTE]Originally posted by anonymidarkness:
[b] ^ Come on, don't compare astrologers to doctors, those fckers cant tell when they will have to cut the patient open again.


You are so freaking right!
Those morons have messed me up in many horrible ways.
Astrologers have only given me readings that never panned out.
Rather have that then what damage doctors have done to me and pretty much ruined me for life.[/B][/QUOTE]

Psychological wounds = physical wounds
But yes, doctors can be TERRIBLE.

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posted October 16, 2019 10:41 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
YEA, I had my chart done a long time before I got into astrology. The astrologer told me to be very careful of allopathic medicine due to Neptune's placement.

She told me I needed to be natural in healing. I was anyway due to so many weird circumstances which got me into natural medicine.


I have cured so many things in myself and others using God given things like herbs. I did not cure them. God made so many things for us to use. We just have to think for ourselves and not listen to anything society says without really investigating.

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posted October 16, 2019 12:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for anonymidarkness     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
^ I feel it can cure you only if you completely trust it.

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posted October 16, 2019 02:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for PixieJane     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Wow, you have little experience of internet exchanges beyond Lindaland? You are far luckier than you realize. Do yourself a favor: don't learn more.

(That is intended as a tongue in cheek comment and not some scathing sarcasm. Part of me is actually envious of you.

Sometimes I have to do "internet detoxes" where I get off the internet for weeks to a month in order to regain my priorities in remembering what's actually important, that's what online is actually quite different from real life though the boundaries are getting weaker every year, and to just not plain weep for humanity in utter despair. These detoxes are much better in rural regions or while camping, that way I don't have to hear the latest BS spread over Facebook from angry gullible neighbors who just read it on their phone and are furious.

SIGH. I don't know if it's some coincidence or the Universe playing a prank on me, but as soon as I typed that a huge smell of pot just blew in through my window. Someone is lighting up not too far away. It does remind me that the internet IS us, not some demon separate from us, and I can't blame it for humanity's flaws. Unfortunately, the internet is currently set up to encourage our demons more than our angels. In the words of one man who does what he can to fight that, the internet has given the demons inside of us Ferraris.)

And if a serious question, then by all means make a signature from my words.

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posted October 16, 2019 03:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for anonymidarkness     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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the internet has given the demons inside of us Ferraris.

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posted October 17, 2019 08:44 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
VROOM!

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[B][/B]

Yeah I do rock that "virgin" vibe to the fullest in some areas
I do have Twitter experience though, but, yep, didn't soil me hehe I simply tend to not have the time for much outside work and all the physical activity my mars demands, that and I do take care of my emotions, when things are negative for the sake of it, I unplug, a bit like a fairy, can't contain too much at once, I think it's a side effect of having excruciatingly resilient stamina for actual negativity and real hardships, my Cappy moon will carry you through Mordor and Cancer but it has no time for your BS and drama lol. Internet drama is like me paying for everything everybody does not hold their mothers accountable for, how on earth is it my problem?

Haha, it did come across as just that, worry not, and yes, do be envious, I am aware and do enjoy my situation in that respect, but then it's not innocent, I'm very cautious and I think it was around the time FB got here and was massive already in the US, that I took a step back and provided myself with the opportunity to think before I was swallowed by the places. So, I started exchanging with people on the net knowing what I never wanted to be like and what I didn't want to engage in. Wasn't always successful, but steady enough to feel I'm not betraying my values or sense of privacy, only challenging those in a healthy way (I hope!).

Detoxes are smart. I obviously don't need them so much (I am notorious for forgetting my phone in places where its battery wanes and then I spend weeks without even thinking of it, drives my contacts crazy lol), I very easily let go of the computer when in a place I like with opportunities to do things outside.
I'm fortunate to work in circles where people don't share their FB things too much (though, not having a FB account, I do separate quite quickly from those crowds when I run into them anyway).

Yes! It always confuses me how people separate "real life" and online, as if.... and also last month a friend told me she cheated on her boyfriend but it didn't count because it was virtual and I did NOT humour her lol

I agree with the others, amazing Ferrari metaphor, though you could even say it's given our demons Ferraris, coke and a White House in exchange for our souls and made it too complicated to read the fine prints so that a lot of us have foolishly agreed to the terms.
But you can always claim your soul back, it's just hard to want to change and/or resist

Eeeeh, it was so serious, still is I may not do it to avoid coming off as provocative because it could be taken as an attack, out of context, but, it does encapsulate some of my feelings so well, I'm keeping it close

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Internet drama is like me paying for everything everybody does not hold their mothers accountable for, how on earth is it my problem?

LOL, Me likes your sense of humour.

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Yes! It always confuses me how people separate "real life" and online, as if.... and also last month a friend told me she cheated on her boyfriend but it didn't count because it was virtual and I did NOT humour her lol

Yeah I kinda don't get the logic of it too, like I thought people who typed "ohhhh...ohhhhh" really moaned like that in real when they were typing it.

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Thank you, quite funny for an old decrepit Pluto in Libra huh?

Haha, I never ventured into the specifics, but I imagine if you don't moan what you type you moan, it's plain lie and you're an arsehole anyway, and if you do... well I'm not using your keyboard and also my hands don't dissociate that much ^^

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Stop peeping and join in!

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UPDATE @PixieJane
You can stop envying me, I was weak, I did entertain a conversation longer than I should have and it did end in me responding something unpleasant... 🤷‍♀️ 🙈 🙊 🙉
'll be better next time 😊

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