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Topic: What does "letting go" even mean?
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aquaguy91 Moderator Posts: 12812 From: Uranus Registered: Jan 2012
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posted September 07, 2022 01:01 PM
Plutowashere, But you keep ignoring the concept that most people get some love and validation. I don't get any. Nobody cares about me. That hurts. I don't see why you can't understand that. I'll never find love. I'll never experience mutually attracted passionate sex. I'll never have any of the good stuff. I don't even ******* have a clue how to acquire all that and it burns my soul. I wish I could be a type A handsome guy. I wish I wasn't a trash defective human.IP: Logged |
aquaguy91 Moderator Posts: 12812 From: Uranus Registered: Jan 2012
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posted September 07, 2022 01:03 PM
quote: Originally posted by PlutoWasHere: Some things we need to figure out by ourselves. From a philosophical viewpoint we are all alone and we are all connected at the same time. Being a loving person and feeling connected to other people without needing or expecting that this is reciprocated, is difficult. But it’s the only real answer to loneliness that I know.
But nobody wants my love. Nobody. I'm worthless. That's what you don't understand. I have no power to ever matter to a woman and that's what I'm trying to deal with. It ******* hurts. I have no chance IP: Logged |
aquaguy91 Moderator Posts: 12812 From: Uranus Registered: Jan 2012
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posted September 07, 2022 01:11 PM
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Lexxigramer Moderator Posts: 8645 From: Here since March 24th.2005/..& Have been Lexagramming going on 2/3 of a century to date! LEXIGRAMMING.♥is my Passion! Registered: Feb 2012
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posted September 07, 2022 05:16 PM
quote: by aquaguy91 wish I wasn't a trash defective human.
Trash😳👽😭 Self hatred much there👽😭😳 Are you aware of the fact that you repeatedly post about things like that when describing yourself?👽😭 If the things you project here in your posts are 100% indicative of how you see yourself; YES how YOU see yourself and how you project yourseLf as worthless and trash and very very very needy and then wonder why it is that according to you that no one wants you no one loves you and on and on and on here you keep telling us, and no matter how much we have been telling you that we do care sincerely care about you💙 are you aware of how you then literally insult us over and over by saying no one cares👽 If how you come across here in your posts is an accurate reflection of you and how you feel about yourself and how you feel but claim that all others are insincere about caring and mean and basically your self hatred comes across even more than your disdain for others👽 That is truly sad😭👽 You do not love yourself or even like yourself and make it plain that it is also how your view any other human being here and in your in person life👽😭 No one can rescue you no one can fix you👽 You call yourself trash and worse and also constantly tell us you are worthy of love and more but then call yourself a trash human being and many other demeaning things👽😭 Does that sound like a person who deserves love and more👽? It does not even sound like a person who knows what that means nor is such a person ready for such joy in life because they hate themselves and everyone else👽😭 Your own words have repeatedly confirmed all that👽I am very sad and even more worried about you now despite all you have said to reject us all repeatedly Aquaguy91 👽😭 However you do not want my or anyone's help and worse thing and that you contradict yourself and say you are worthy of love and more but then you label yourself as being a trash human being and other demeaning things👽😭 You cannot project such at yourself and others and expect to be miraculously rescued by them and it appears sadly😭 that you are not able or willing to rescue yourself from your deep abyss of resigned dismal despair😭 I care and others care but it hurts to watch you beating up on yourself and us and others no matter what we say you always have a negative comeback to throw in our faces and make it very clear that your want and need others to love you and more but then you comeback with non sequeror excuses that do not have anything to do with what appears to be actually happening in your mind and world👽 In a nutshell from what I see in your posts is you repeatedly tearing both yourself and everyone else down and then you act as if projecting a negative image and opinion of both yourself and the rest of the human race will bring you all that you desire and want and need in your sad depressing life👽 Yes I am quite frustrated with your self depreciating emotional outburst and your constantly tearing down everyone else👽 I have enough going on in my world with all the cancers and blindness episodes and paralysis episodes and excruciating pain and more nasty things I am not going to list here; but despite all my own unrelenting pain and sorrow I have and am enduring, I have again taken much of my precious time to try and reach you somehow💙 but you do not care do you?👽 You do not want help from me nor anyone here or from anywhere in your life👽😭 You go on about being on the Asperger's Autism Spectrum but you cannot even see that like myself too there are more of us on that spectrum and that does not entitled us to be given everything we desire no more than any human on this planet is entitled to having what they want out of life👽 You keep projecting negativity at others and worse at yourself with labeling yourself trash and worse and despite your claiming to be an intellectual, you ate blinded by your self hatred and project that outward and inward and then wonder why you are sad and depressed and excessivly needy lonely and more bad things👽 I am stopping my rant at you because I expect the backlash will be pretty darn negative and frankly I cannot keep trying to reach you and that is so sad to me and I have more than enough deep sorrow and extreme pain in my life that I do not want more negativity from the likes of you who doesn't care about any other person including himself👽😭 Your deep dark dismal self hatred 😭👽 is the very worse and is the root 👽😭 of all your pain in life it appears👽😭 No one can save you but you aquaguy91 💙💙💙 IP: Logged |
aquaguy91 Moderator Posts: 12812 From: Uranus Registered: Jan 2012
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posted September 07, 2022 08:39 PM
Lexxigrammer, Please don't come at me with all that law of attraction nonsense. I know better than all that. Quit blaming me for being treated badly. I'm a 12th houser. Nobody sees me. Nobody even cares that I exist. Nobody ever calls. Nobody reaches out. I live in evidence land. The evidence strongly suggests that nobody cares about me. Strangers online who only know me as words on a screen don't give me the validation I crave. I want to REALLY matter to people who are real to me. IP: Logged |
aquaguy91 Moderator Posts: 12812 From: Uranus Registered: Jan 2012
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posted September 07, 2022 08:40 PM
Would you blame a child for their trauma? I have been treated like **** since childhood! Stop blaming me for the trauma I'm dealing with!!!! ******* stop!!!IP: Logged |
aquaguy91 Moderator Posts: 12812 From: Uranus Registered: Jan 2012
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posted September 07, 2022 08:52 PM
If someone here really cared about my well being they would give me pragmatic advice on how to connect with women. I don't know how to do that. Nobody ever ******* explains that part to me. I legitimately do not understand women. I feel that feeling you get when you are trying to communicate with someone who speaks a different language. I don't expect any good answers because everyone likes to be a condescending jerk and lecture and talk down to me without saying anything of substance that I could possibly apply to change my situation. You tell me to love myself. My sincere question is how? If it was that easy I wouldn't be here miserable feeling all the intense bad emotions I have to contend with every day. I'm all ears for real practical advice. Leave all the law of attraction nonsense out of my threads please. IP: Logged |
aquaguy91 Moderator Posts: 12812 From: Uranus Registered: Jan 2012
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posted September 07, 2022 09:10 PM
How do you love yourself when nobody loves you? And don't say you love me because you don't know me. You know words on a screen and fill in the rest with your imagination. That's why so many of you make so many wrong assumptions about me lol. Several of you have suggested that I have options in real life and just ignore them. If that's the case they aren't telling me if they are interested. And if it's a case where I don't notice their insanely inane hints or cues it's not a choice. I have Asperger's after all. If women are interested in me and feel ignored by me I don't feel bad for them. They could stick their necks out for me. They could do something. They could make moves to show me I wouldn't be rejected. They don't. So I only have to assume that aren't interested. Lol IP: Logged |
aquaguy91 Moderator Posts: 12812 From: Uranus Registered: Jan 2012
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posted September 07, 2022 09:22 PM
The whole concept of "loving yourself" is ******* stupid to me. Suppose I could do that and unfeel all the bad emotions that I never chose to feel from experiences I never chose to have, what difference would it make? I'd still be lonely, sexually frustrated, and marginalized. Loving myself would have no practical impact on my life. It wouldn't do a ******* thing to change the real life problems I have. I'm a man with a high drive to connect and I'm not able to live that out. I'd still have all the problems I have now if I loved myself lol IP: Logged |
Lexxigramer Moderator Posts: 8645 From: Here since March 24th.2005/..& Have been Lexagramming going on 2/3 of a century to date! LEXIGRAMMING.♥is my Passion! Registered: Feb 2012
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posted September 07, 2022 10:21 PM
quote: Originally posted by aquaguy91: Lexxigrammer, Please don't come at me with all that law of attraction nonsense. I know better than all that. Quit blaming me for being treated badly. I'm a 12th houser. Nobody sees me. Nobody even cares that I exist. Nobody ever calls. Nobody reaches out. I live in evidence land. The evidence strongly suggests that nobody cares about me. Strangers online who only know me as words on a screen don't give me the validation I crave. I want to REALLY matter to people who are real to me.
quote: Originally posted by aquaguy91: Would you blame a child for their trauma? I have been treated like **** since childhood! Stop blaming me for the trauma I'm dealing with!!!! ******* stop!!!
quote: Originally posted by aquaguy91: If someone here really cared about my well being they would give me pragmatic advice on how to connect with women. I don't know how to do that. Nobody ever ******* explains that part to me. I legitimately do not understand women. I feel that feeling you get when you are trying to communicate with someone who speaks a different language. I don't expect any good answers because everyone likes to be a condescending jerk and lecture and talk down to me without saying anything of substance that I could possibly apply to change my situation. You tell me to love myself. My sincere question is how? If it was that easy I wouldn't be here miserable feeling all the intense bad emotions I have to contend with every day. I'm all ears for real practical advice. Leave all the law of attraction nonsense out of my threads please.
quote: Originally posted by aquaguy91: How do you love yourself when nobody loves you? And don't say you love me because you don't know me. You know words on a screen and fill in the rest with your imagination. That's why so many of you make so many wrong assumptions about me lol. Several of you have suggested that I have options in real life and just ignore them. If that's the case they aren't telling me if they are interested. And if it's a case where I don't notice their insanely inane hints or cues it's not a choice. I have Asperger's after all. If women are interested in me and feel ignored by me I don't feel bad for them. They could stick their necks out for me. They could do something. They could make moves to show me I wouldn't be rejected. They don't. So I only have to assume that aren't interested. Lol
quote: Originally posted by aquaguy91: The whole concept of "loving yourself" is ******* stupid to me. Suppose I could do that and unfeel all the bad emotions that I never chose to feel from experiences I never chose to have, what difference would it make? I'd still be lonely, sexually frustrated, and marginalized. Loving myself would have no practical impact on my life. It wouldn't do a ******* thing to change the real life problems I have. I'm a man with a high drive to connect and I'm not able to live that out. I'd still have all the problems I have now if I loved myself lol
You actually appear to take great delight in all l the attention folks give you here yet you continue to twist and turn and convolute things and insult everyone including yourself👽 You want attention no matter what kind👽 And all your smiling emojis speak volumes of you are not serious and are it appears just jerking everyone around for more attention no matter the outcomes👽 and do not care how many folks you hurt and insult👽 There you have it👽 Keep posting your smiling and grinding and laughing emojis it reveals much of where your head is at and that this is all just a big creepy funfest for you somehow👽 You are enjoying all the attention that is blatantly creepy clear👽 More slamming everyone including yourself👽 Makes me wonder if you are actually a bot programmed to mess with people and are not an actual person👽 You have an excuse for all your woes yet none make any sense and contradictions abound👽 By the way👽 Law of attraction is stupid in my opinion so lay off that new age tripe, that is not my thing👽 Point being is that pure and simple Good things happen to bad people and bad things happen to good people it is just luck of the draw and how it is to be human👽 As some say Get off the the cross they need the wood dude👽 You say the same things over and over and are getting nowhere and your vile repetitive insults have become far far beyond tendinous and all the caring in the world is not going to stop folks from finally telling you to stop asking questions you do not want answers for and whining when you are not actually interested in changing your life👽 You call yourself worthless, trash, unloved and other bad things👽👽👽👽👽👽 Well gee whiz look at you 👽 going way way heavily out of your way to be exactly as you have described 👽 and then to have the ridiculous freaking audacity to keep on asking us all why you are not loved and desired and happy etcetera 👽👽👽👽👽 That is just creepy beyond creepy👽 Your personal pity party will not bring you what you desire out of life and harassing folks who try to help you and insulting every human you can possibly insult and boo hooing and using the Asperger's diagnosis as a crutch is not going to bring you what you want unless ugh dare I say ugh ugh ugh That YOU ARE actually getting exactly what you want here on your many threads for what, like around a decade or so here at here LindaLand where people have responded with kindness💙 over and over💙 and you have gotten EXACTLY WHAT YOU WANT ATTENTION ATTENTION ATTENTION And more and more ATTENTION So you should feel very good about your success in getting ATTENTION for many years and even though you have been rude and insulting to everyone and hateful to them and yourself You have and still get copious amounts of ATTENTION👽 I do not use being Autistic as an excuse for my all my life woes so lay off with the poor little Asperger's afflicted trashy worthless human being crap already👽 Keep playing this poor you pity party and eventually you will self destruct because the hole you are digging is ponderpusly deep at only age 31 and you are on a serious downward plunge or at best a static state of being a stagnation of your soul👽😭 Very very sad indeed👽😭
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aquaguy91 Moderator Posts: 12812 From: Uranus Registered: Jan 2012
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posted September 07, 2022 11:15 PM
What smiley emoticons? You are making things up now. I haven't been using them. You're the one who uses an absurd amount of smileys.IP: Logged |
aquaguy91 Moderator Posts: 12812 From: Uranus Registered: Jan 2012
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posted September 07, 2022 11:16 PM
Who have I insulted? And how have I insulted them? You have to explain yourself when you make these accusations. IP: Logged |
aquaguy91 Moderator Posts: 12812 From: Uranus Registered: Jan 2012
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posted September 07, 2022 11:26 PM
Lexxigrammer, You don't seem to be comprehending what I'm writing that well. I did not blame anything wholesale on Asperger's. I was talking about the nonverbal cue aspect of dating/meeting women. My point was that it isn't my fault if women are only hinting at liking me and I don't pick that up. My point was women have some responsibility to communicate their desires to men if they are interested. It's 2022. That's it. That was my only point about Asperger's. And that point was made because a lot of idiots here imply that I most likely have options in real life and just ignore them because I enjoy being miserable or whatever. That is obviously stupid nonsense. I don't have options. And if women are interested and they don't tell me they aren't really options are they? How can they be options for me if I don't even have a clue they are into me?IP: Logged |
aquaguy91 Moderator Posts: 12812 From: Uranus Registered: Jan 2012
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posted September 07, 2022 11:38 PM
My threads are about me and my trauma. It's about my self expression. Quit making my trauma about you. My trauma is my trauma. I have Moon in the 3rd house and I have to talk about my emotions or I'll explode if I don't. And the reality is I don't have anyone who cares about me in real life. Sweet Peas is my diary. It's what it is. If you can't handle me get the **** off my thread.IP: Logged |
aquaguy91 Moderator Posts: 12812 From: Uranus Registered: Jan 2012
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posted September 07, 2022 11:45 PM
I'm a 3rd house moon and Mars person. It's so funny how all of you portray me as this manipulative person who wants a reaction. My communication is very authentic and spontaneous. If you understood me at all you would understand this very simple fact about my nature. The fact that everyone here misinterprets me and where I'm coming from makes me feel very invalidated and alone. That's why I put less stock in online stuff and that triggers some apparently. The funny thing is women used to always lecture me about how online doesn't matter and it's all about real life connections. So which is it? People contradict themselves too much.IP: Logged |
PlutoWasHere Knowflake Posts: 621 From: The Nether World Registered: Mar 2021
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posted September 08, 2022 04:24 AM
aquaguy91, I can’t tell you how to live your life, I can only speak from my own experiences. And that’s what I’ve been trying to tell you about just like Lexxigrammer. These are our own lessons and we’re trying to share them with you because we recognize your struggles. There is no other reason for us to write here otherwise. What good would it be to us to try to manipulate you or make you feel worse about yourself? So please don’t feel attacked when we’re only trying to share our own personal viewpoints. There is no harm intended. I wonder about the way you keep telling yourself the same story over and over again. You’re programming yourself to be stuck in that same loop of thoughts forever. Please try to look into some philosophers that deal with the theme “life sucks, how do I deal with that being an inescapable fact”. Like Nietzsche or Stoicism. It might give you different perspective on life. IP: Logged |
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posted September 08, 2022 07:58 AM
quote: Originally posted by PlutoWasHere: aquaguy91, I can’t tell you how to live your life, I can only speak from my own experiences. And that’s what I’ve been trying to tell you about just like Lexxigrammer. These are our own lessons and we’re trying to share them with you because we recognize your struggles. There is no other reason for us to write here otherwise. What good would it be to us to try to manipulate you or make you feel worse about yourself? So please don’t feel attacked when we’re only trying to share our own personal viewpoints. There is no harm intended. I wonder about the way you keep telling yourself the same story over and over again. You’re programming yourself to be stuck in that same loop of thoughts forever. Please try to look into some philosophers that deal with the theme “life sucks, how do I deal with that being an inescapable fact”. Like Freud or Stoicism. It might give you different perspective on life.
Very well said PlutoWasHere💙💙💙 I do not know what more I can say to Aquaguy91 😭💙👽 He paints me out as a kind of mean nasty cruel uncaring monster attacking him no matter how he phrases it his view on others is beyond negative👽 It does not end with others as he continues tearing down both himself repeatedly and every human on this planet👽 It is sad and I am at a total loss how to even try t.o help him as are most folks👽 Rant over for now. IP: Logged |
PlutoWasHere Knowflake Posts: 621 From: The Nether World Registered: Mar 2021
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posted September 08, 2022 08:19 AM
quote: Originally posted by Lexxigramer: Very well said PlutoWasHere💙💙💙 I do not know what more I can say to Aquaguy91 😭💙👽 He paints me out as a kind of mean nasty cruel uncaring monster attacking him no matter how he phrases it his view on others is beyond negative👽 It does not end with others as he continues tearing down both himself repeatedly and every human on this planet👽 It is sad and I am at a total loss how to even try t.o help him as are most folks👽 Rant over for now.
Lexxigrammer, I can see you mean well and that’s why you post here. So a big hug for you from me! ❤️I noticed I mentioned Freud when I wanted to write down Nietzsche. Talk about a Freudian slip of the tongue. Freud deals a lot with parents/childhood and sexual frustration so maybe it’s not such a bad advice…
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aquaguy91 Moderator Posts: 12812 From: Uranus Registered: Jan 2012
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posted September 08, 2022 12:16 PM
I don't need to read a book or take in any more information. I need to have an embodied experience of being loved and good enough. Reading something from a guy who died a century ago won't change anything inside me or how I feel. I feel deep hopelessness and rage. I was given deep powerful needs that I can't get met and I ******* hate it. I feel so powerless. It's a miserable feeling to have no power to change your situation.IP: Logged |
Lexxigramer Moderator Posts: 8645 From: Here since March 24th.2005/..& Have been Lexagramming going on 2/3 of a century to date! LEXIGRAMMING.♥is my Passion! Registered: Feb 2012
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posted September 08, 2022 08:14 PM
quote: Originally posted by PlutoWasHere: Lexxigrammer, I can see you mean well and that’s why you post here. So a big hug for you from me! ❤️I noticed I mentioned Freud when I wanted to write down Nietzsche. Talk about a Freudian slip of the tongue. Freud deals a lot with parents/childhood and sexual frustration so maybe it’s not such a bad advice…
Thank you PlutoWasHere  Had a longer reply but it bombed so I am keeping this reply short for now being💙 A big hug back to you from me❤️ Thank you for seeing that my caring is sincere❤️ I think that caring can perhaps be a weakness based on many of my experiences however👽 Not going to go into that issue here; but may start a thread about it because I think many folks would know what I mean about it being a weakness in certain situations😭👽Ah your observations about Freud and your Freudian slip😎😁 Yes there are times when his views do have relevance😎 He was off on much but some of his observations do fit in many cases😎 ------------------ Take a look at my LexIgramming/LexAgramming Biography Nearly 2/3 of a century to date of ♥ LexAgramming Lexperience!🔠✍️
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posted September 08, 2022 08:22 PM
quote: Originally posted by aquaguy91: I don't need to read a book or take in any more information. I need to have an embodied experience of being loved and good enough. Reading something from a guy who died a century ago won't change anything inside me or how I feel. I feel deep hopelessness and rage. I was given deep powerful needs that I can't get met and I ******* hate it. I feel so powerless. It's a miserable feeling to have no power to change your situation.
So what do you want from us here at LindaLand ⁉️💙 Please tell us because we do not know what to do and you do not like our replies👽 Kindly advise us aquaguy91 💙 What do you want from any of us⁉️
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PlutoWasHere Knowflake Posts: 621 From: The Nether World Registered: Mar 2021
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posted September 12, 2022 03:08 AM
aquaguy91, honestly you’re scaring the sh*t out of women with your behavior. You’re putting so much expectations on a romantic connection. Women sense that and see your potential anger when those expectations aren’t met. You’re setting yourself up for repeating the same mistakes over and over again. Women are scared for their life when it comes to men and for good reason. They will always check for red flags in men and you, I hate to be blunt but you’re asking for it, are a walking and talking red flag. So, you either do something about your issues or accept that women with any sense of self preservation will avoid a relationship with you. It’s that simple.
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posted September 12, 2022 04:17 PM
quote: Originally posted by PlutoWasHere: aquaguy91, honestly you’re scaring the sh*t out of women with your behavior. You’re putting so much expectations on a romantic connection. Women sense that and see your potential anger when those expectations aren’t met. You’re setting yourself up for repeating the same mistakes over and over again. Women are scared for their life when it comes to men and for good reason. They will always check for red flags in men and you, I hate to be blunt but you’re asking for it, are a walking and talking red flag. So, you either do something about your issues or accept that women with any sense of self preservation will avoid a relationship with you. It’s that simple.
PlutoWasHere💙 Sad but so true👽😢 That is way too much pressure to lay on another person👽 It does indeed come across as fix me or I will go berserker on you👽 That unrestrained extreme neediness and all does come across as potentially dangerous rage👽 No one wants to take on that kind of a heavy responsibility for the happiness of another person👽😳 When they fail at giving the needy person all that the needy person demands from them....... yes indeed that is a recipe for extreme violence😳👽 The first failure seen by the needy person in their potential saviour.... shudder shudder shudder and I am not even going to go into how bad things can become for the saviour and the needy person👽😳 Point here is that even if a so called perfect woman came into the needy person's life could the needy person handle that first failure of the woman not being exactly as he desired her to be⁉️👽 Also seriously here.... A perfect stable woman with any semblance of intelligence is never going to take on the Impossible task of becoming Mrs. Everything Perfect Forever to the needy person👽 Sorry aquaguy91 but PlutoWasHere is spot on👽😢 You are being very scary and all our caring does not negate the fact that you are exactly as you have described, filled with rage and expecting some woman to rescue you or else👽 Put yourself in that woman's shoes a moment👽 Would you want a woman to expect that from you👽That is unrealistic and a horrible demand to make of any person👽😢 and is not by any stretch of the imagination is it the keys or seeds to a beautiful loving mutually beneficial relationship👽😢 Go ahead and be angry at me😳 IP: Logged |
aquaguy91 Moderator Posts: 12812 From: Uranus Registered: Jan 2012
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posted September 13, 2022 11:02 AM
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Lexxigramer Moderator Posts: 8645 From: Here since March 24th.2005/..& Have been Lexagramming going on 2/3 of a century to date! LEXIGRAMMING.♥is my Passion! Registered: Feb 2012
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posted September 13, 2022 03:55 PM
quote: Originally posted by aquaguy91: Sigh.
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