posted June 08, 2011 11:24 AM            

I know another Nessus conjunct Sun person ,too.
Popcorn is a Nessus conjunct moon.
I think you are forced to deal with the Nessus energy.

How you do it would be free will,of course.
I think it could make you an abuser.Yes,I think your natural tendency may be to be one.

I am not sure though cuz Popcorn took the Nessus to have a deep understanding of the deep side of human nature.
Was she gonna be an abuser if she did not transmute it?
She does not seem like an abuser at all BUT instead someone who will stand up for others at her own peril as she DID for me when I needed help at one time.

posted June 08, 2011 11:27 AM            

Now ,Deja conjunct the NN is a strange one.

I think your goal in life is to do something with the victim energy.
It is right there with your life path.
You know I need help with this .I am gonna ask IQ.

posted June 08, 2011 02:31 PM            

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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
Nessus is abuse. It can be where YOU will abuse another(Your Nessus aspecting one of their planets).
It can be where someone will abuse you OR show you your own history of abuse.

Deja is the victim. In your chart, it can be where/how you will be a victim.

I think this is right. I am fairly new lol

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Ah.. zut.. gosh-darn it!! I have Deja conjunct my Neptune (2 degree orb though) in my Ascendant.. I don't like this at all.. and I have been taken advantage of before, without even realizing it. My Piscean Venus squaring them doesn't help either; it would gladly martyr me to the cause.

I don't like my Nessus either.. it conjuncts my man's DC within a degree. I would never hurt him knowingly.. but then we have already had that play out in our past - I hurt him, badly, many years ago, then came back to make up for it, and ended up getting hurt by him in the process. Then after a clean break, we experienced a renewal & got a fresh start - we are now together again working on doing it right this time around - so far so good. So hopefully Nessus energies can be handled.. if you are aware of them?

posted June 08, 2011 02:35 PM            

It's like knowing you have a tendency to procrastinate or a hesitance to share - you can decide to tackle any new projects without delay, or share and give more freely.

I feel MUCH better now.

posted June 08, 2011 02:40 PM            

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Originally posted by sunshine9:
That has to be so.. I think any negative chart energy MUST be able to be tackled if you know where the pitfalls lie, and are willing to carefully avoid them. It's like knowing you have a tendency to procrastinate or a hesitancy to share - you can decide to tackle your projects without delay, or share and give more freely. I feel MUCH better now.

Sunshine

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Awww

posted June 08, 2011 07:23 PM            

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Depending on the other aspects, the lady might unconsciously abuse others [emotionally]

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But anyway, back to the Nessus-Dejanira thing...I think its good then that I have a prominent Nessus and a prominent Dejanira, so that way there's a balance.

Looking at that synastry though I am really curious about those exact aspects: I was unable to find anything on these...
his Nessus exactly conjunct my Mars and
his Sun exactly conjunct my Dejanira

I understand that someone's Nessus conjunct a personal point in your chart means they could possibly abuse you in that area, but with Mars what does that mean? At first thought I would think physical, since Mars seems to be a physical/action planet, but that doesn't sound right to me. I just can't see that scenario taking place, so there must be another interpretation.
And then the Sun conjunct Dejanira thing, to me correlates with his Nessus on one of my personal planets, because it seems like that is just reinforcing the idea that I will somehow be a victim and he the abuser.

posted June 09, 2011 08:01 AM            

After you give me the list--All Nessus/Deja aspects in synastry with the degrees and ONLY 2 degrees or less.
Also, give the houses and signs.Then,I will meditate on them.

posted June 09, 2011 08:06 AM            

Obviously, you are a Nessus/Deja person.You have lessons you must learn in this domain.

You will be an abuser if left to your NATURAL devices.That does not mean you have to act it out.What sign is it in?
IQ said it would be emotional so I assume it was an air sign.
Anyway, Nessus can make you in to a person who understands the depths of the dark side of human nature cuz you HAD to go there within yourself.
An "abuser" can act it out or plumb the depths of abuse and be wise and gentle knowing what lies underneath the surface.

Actually,most abusive people are putting their dark side on someone else.
If you see bullying,it is from weakness and fear OF one's OWN dark side.

You must face yours.That is what Nessus demands,imo.
Have you ever read Evan Hunter.All his books deal with this.

posted June 09, 2011 08:08 AM            

Deja on the NN will make you HAVE to really,really know and embrace the victim energy.It is your life path.
How would one do that?

I suppose you must understand the Nessus energy which is on your Sun.
After that ,you will understand the victim, energy which is the flip side.

Any questions ?

posted June 09, 2011 09:20 PM            

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Originally posted by cooljen:
So about the synastry again, the aspects I was asking about are:

His Nessus exactly conjunct my Mars (in Cancer in my 9th house)
His Sun exactly conjunct my Dejanira (in Gemini in my 8th house)

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Ok His abuser lol comes in to the sphere of YOUR drive.Now,if your Mars is in Cancer ,it is a little impaired as it is .
This aspect would NOT make you weaker,perhaps cuz Mars is a planet of drive.
This may make you fight with each other.This does not feel good.

He may win cuz you have a weak Mars ,too.

His Sun conjuncts YOUR Deja in Gem in YOUR 8th house
His Ego is the stronger one here .Your victim part is prolly gonna be over taken by his ego.
Gemini would make emotional abuse ,not physical.
The 8th house would deepen the connetion to the realm of deep feelings ,VERY deep feelings and places you go together in this drama.

So, I think HE would abuse you just from this.
However,you have Nessus conjunct the Sun so you could give it back.
Don't let me hear the pots and pans from here