posted December 23, 2014 12:10 AM            

I help people transcend abuse and heal from sexual dysfunction. More than anything, how to live the life they're living elsewhere that they long to live here.

I suppose, were I an abuser, I'd be a social climber? Use organisations to manipulate and dominate others?

posted December 23, 2014 12:17 AM            

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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
Could you abuse by exploiting another's deep, psychological weaknesses?

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posted December 23, 2014 12:29 AM            

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Originally posted by Anemone:
I still cant comprehend how a 1st house Nessus could/would abuse?
By projecting narcissistic tendencies perhaps? (House of Self)
its also in Earth Sign...

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I don't think you can generalize Nessus. It would not relate to abuse in a house unless strongly aspected or connected to another planet or angle. Everyone has all the asteroids somewhere. They are only significant if someone or something activates them.

Perhaps Nessus activated in House 1 would mean that you may abuse others by making unwarranted or self-serving demands on others

Would that fit? Can you look at exact or close aspects in your chart from your planets to support this? Perhaps in synastry when activated, how did it play out? Did you feel urged to create some sort of expectation and make self-serving demands?

posted December 23, 2014 06:54 AM            

My Nessus is on the Galactic Centre at 27 Sag, in my 4th house and conjunct my Mars at 0 Cap. It squares my Valentine at 24 Vir and sextiles my Sun at 24 Lib.

What would that mean, Ami ?

I was abused by my mom (H4) a lot when I was younger, but it wasn't sexual. Just physical, verbal and emotional.

posted December 23, 2014 07:29 AM              

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Originally posted by PlutoSurvivor:
Nessus in 7H:
perhaps when Nessus in 7H is activated, you may abuse others by abruptly changing the way you relate to them, cutting them off or leaving them behind without warning.
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would that fit??

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I have Nessus in 7th house, and it definitely fits me. It is in Gemini and I noticed that sometimes I have to pick my words extra carefully, as they tend to unintentionally hurt, especially if I am in a more angry mood.

On the other hand I am very sensitive to verbal or mental manipulation, and might even be a little paranoid about it (my Lilith is in Aquarius in 3rd house, so that does not quite help matters I suppose. lol Lilith is trine Nessus incidentally, too)

There are no very close aspects of my Nessus to planets, though the opposition to Sun might still be valid, though just barely making the cut (orb: 2°17)

I suppose Ami might notice it now and then, as i think I remember my Nessus is conjunct her Sun.

posted December 23, 2014 10:30 AM            

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Originally posted by Aya_and_baby:
I have nessus in 8th... Does that mean that I either abuse sex (or would that be more likely 5th?) or that I abuse my partner's funds?

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I have nessus in the 8th but I also have DEJA conjunct my 8th cusp and star Sirius exact.

I have been a target for theft many times in my life.

I personally don't steal and really hate thieves; I consider it like rape tbh as a person/organization is using force to take something you worked hard for.

I suppose I am good at knowing people's psychological weaknesses and if provoked and feeling abused by Significant other I can use that to attack back but I dont abuse sexually and never would. On the contrary I help people with history of abuse.

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My nessus trines my chart ruler conjunction jupiter-uranus in the 12th conjunct AC and it sesquisquares neptune in the first with is the focal point of a tsquare between sun in the 10th and moon in the 4th.

posted January 06, 2015 12:36 PM            

My Nessus is in my fourth house, which is a receptive house, correct? I was abused in my early childhood by a relative and mentally/emotionally/physically abused by my parents on and off all through my childhood. I did learn to abuse this way and repeated some abusive behavior both in my childhood home and into an adult relationship. I made a conscious effort to stop and I do not consider myself an abusive person now. Basically I'm confused though. In my case, it seems that Nessus is not where I abuse as much as where I was abused.

posted January 06, 2015 12:50 PM            

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Originally posted by ReeseC:
My Nessus is retrograde at 29° Virgo in the first house; it is also loosely conjunct Nymphe (9°). I would say that I'm more self abusive than abusive to others. My Virgo ASC constantly nitpicks everything about myself, critiquing the littlest details about my looks, character,....striving for perfection. I don't know how nymphe would tie into that.

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I get you, I'm a Virgo ASC too !

Nessus on a Karmic degree and Retrograde would be important in your present lifetime's karmic debts, imo, especially if it is in your first house. Check for contacts to the Nodal Axis, Vertex Axis, Saturn, Pluto, asteroid Karma, and do the same with your Huber House degrees. You can also compare to your prenatal eclipse charts (they're very karmic).

I wouldn't consider the Nymphe/Nessus conjunction, it's way too wide for planets, let alone asteroids.

posted January 06, 2015 03:22 PM            

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Originally posted by elixir:
I have nessus on my dsc. I would say I abuse myself more than others.

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Do you seem to gravitate to abusive partners?

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posted March 14, 2015 06:21 PM            

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I do think however that every planet or point can be experienced in expressive as well as in receptive ways.

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I completely agree with this.

I mean, how do we say that Nessus means YOU will abuse in an area and Dejanira means YOU will be victimised?

Why not, Nessus means you will BE abused,
and Dejanira you will CREATE victims?

Where are the rules governing whether these energies are receptive or expressive?

I also don't understand from the OP how Nessus in the 7th means RECEIVING abuse,
yet Nessus in the other houses is where you GIVE abuse.

posted March 17, 2015 03:17 AM            

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Originally posted by Voix_de_la_Mer:
I completely agree with this.

I mean, how do we say that Nessus means YOU will abuse in an area and Dejanira means YOU will be victimised?

Why not, Nessus means you will BE abused,
and Dejanira you will CREATE victims?

Where are the rules governing whether these energies are receptive or expressive?

I also don't understand from the OP how Nessus in the 7th means RECEIVING abuse,
yet Nessus in the other houses is where you GIVE abuse.

Is the 7th house merely a receptive house?

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It's interesting you say that, because I've often been perplexed by this very thing myself. For example, I have NESSUS exactly conjunct my boyfriend's DEJANIRA. There's zero abuse; we treat each other with total respect and are appreciative of each other.

We're also very aware of certain sexual dynamics between us which we explore very openly in the same sort of caring, deliberate fashion. As the natural dynamics are such that he takes the dominant role in things, the fact that it's my NESSUS has always been curious.

posted March 17, 2015 05:56 AM            

I have dealt with obsessive people, though. I think Im in the Nessus indicates obsessive-potential, camp. Whether it's obsessed with controlling me, proving themselves to me, asserting their superiority over me to others, obsessed with the idea they need me to fix themselves, obsessed with the image of themselves with me (which they entirely project, and has nothing to do with me) ... it can manifest in many different ways, but the key is that obsessive quality it has.

Maybe others do sometimes see me as an easy target, as well. Ive been mugged several times (to the point that my sister joked I must have an invisible (mug me!!!) sign on my forehead), and I was the scapegoat in my family. Some abuse came with that, undeniably.

I cant accept it makes me predisposed to abuse or inclined toward it, though. Couldnt be farther from the truth, abuse of others--both emotional and physical--deeply, deeply disturbs me.

Ive never self abused either, never self harmed in any manner whatsoever. My sister was a self harmer and I was the one who caught her cutting when I was 14, and she was 17. I helped her to stop. I also helped her stop hurting herself via bulimia -- again, I was the only one who knew. Helped my other sister get out of a very abusive relationship. She lived in a different state for several years, I just happened to move to that state, briefly, coinciding with that relationship. I was there for her when no one else would have been due to circumstances alone, and in retrospect, things lined up in such a way ... again, I was the only one who really knew. Being bombarded by instances like this, now, 'accidentally' coming into a situation where I was forced to be a confidant, of sorts.
Interestingly, my Asc-Nessus-Angel is in Leo; both sisters are Leos, as well as several others I'm thinking of (one of which is Leo Moon). This aspect might say 'I can help you'. My 4H scorpio venus might say 'Ill keep your secret'. Wondering now if my Intercepted Libra/Aries might also be significant, somehow, with mars intercepted in Libra.

Ill need to look into this further, maybe now Im getting on to something.

Er...

Pardon my long-winded epiphany

posted March 19, 2015 10:32 PM            

As you know, I'm new to many of these asteroids. I have Nessus in LEO trine my Sun & Uranus. In the 11th.

posted March 20, 2015 10:18 PM            

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Originally posted by LovelyAries86:
Hi Ami

As you know, I'm new to many of these asteroids. I have Nessus in LEO trine my Sun & Uranus. In the 11th.

So prone to abusing friends? What does this mean?

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The orb would have to be super close--about 1 tops. I use 2 sometimes but some astrologers only use exact.

My guess on this would be that you could control abusive tendancies and even transmute them for good.

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posted March 22, 2015 10:25 PM            

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Originally posted by Ami Anne:

My guess on this would be that you could control abusive tendancies and even transmute them for good.

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Oh! That's awesome. Thank you.

posted March 24, 2015 03:47 PM            

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