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happyleo
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posted August 03, 2015 03:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for happyleo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
Well Anemone
I have Nessus in the 7th so I don;t have to admit much cuz people abuse me


I got the same placement and up to now I was abusing much more than being abused. I got it under control now though, and now I just try to concentrate on helping the other person to evolve in some way (i was doing that a n d the abuse before)

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posted August 03, 2015 10:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lerena     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have Nessus Retrograde in Libra and 12th house. Does this mean I abuse myself without realizing it? I mean, I consider retrogrades as more internal than external. This said, it would take A LOT to push me to abuse, but I'd probably resort to abusing myself if I ever did it. It wouldn't be just the other person that got hurt but me as well. And since Libra is commonly thought to want harmony and balance, this is probably an accurate guess, but I don't know for sure how I am when I abuse. All I know is I'm probably more susceptible to being unaware of it.

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posted July 14, 2016 09:36 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Voix_de_la_Mer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Bumping.
As the jury is still out on this one.

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posted July 14, 2016 01:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MermaidDreamz     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted July 14, 2016 02:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

11H Cancer Nessus

Do I abuse in this house?

Whatever can be said about any time I abuse, it's unconscious and not meant to be so.

Though, sometimes I will push certain limits to see where the limits are, because I can't see them. And maybe my flailing-about in Cancer water...that connects to my 12H ocean, maybe the way I stir things up as I'm trying to latch onto definition and stability...I guess that could harm people.

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I have Nessus in my 2nd house, in Sagittarius. I must admit that I do possibly use people for their money, but I don't always realize it. My best friend called me out when I was dating around that I was looking for a sugar daddy, and I guess I was. I always use money for my betterment though, I think Sag really highlights that.

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posted July 15, 2016 05:06 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Voix_de_la_Mer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have Nessus in the 9th.

If we are continuing to be fatalistic about Nessus, then I guess I am a racist and a charlatan.
You know, two of the things I oppose most and actively fight against in the world...

Examples:
I do not see skin colour, culture, religion, as TRUE divisions - these are human-created divisions, driven by fear IMO. And I have always felt this way, completely in keeping with my Aquarius Sun.
I believe in embracing and learning from these types of differences, not stamping them out.

I read tarot. Many vulnerable people seek guidance and answers from tarot in fragile times of their lives.
Times where they could be easily mislead or hurt deeply.
I sure could exploit and abuse money out of people at those times, by saying my reading will give them what they seek.
But I do not.
I have never even been able to reconcile charging any money for my readings, despite several people encouraging me to do so, on the strength of a reading they received from me.
And I am always clear that I offer personal INSIGHT, not guidance or answers, or truth.

Again, what we see here is that I am operating strongly at the opposite end of the Nessus-abuser interpretation.
This isn't a development thing, I have always been this way.

I saw in the earlier threads on Nessus that he was likened to Pluto, in representing a place in the chart where you can wield great personal power and possession of the object represented by the sign and house.

So following on from this, if Nessus brings GREAT POWER, he also brings GREAT RESPONSIBILITY.

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My conclusion is that if there is a lack of responsibility or emotional intelligence, or a fragmented or fragile integrity in the chart, ONLY THEN, MAY we see the darker side of Nessus. Just as we would with any other 'powerful' planet or body, such as Pluto.

We do not say Pluto is an abuser just because he has the power to be one, do we??
In fact, we have many beautiful interpretations of this powerful planet, such as when he trines Venus, or Moon.

----------Except, wasn't he a kidnapper and rapist in the myths?

----------How can we be so understanding of Pluto, but not Nessus?

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I would love it if others could consider this way of looking at Nessus in their natal, and write back.

I think it is time we nail him once and for all, as there are readings being charged for telling people they are abusers or are or will be abused, when there is CLEAR evidence to the contrary.

-------------- Let's reveal the positive strengths of Nessus, and save some vulnerable people from experiencing unnecessary suffering.

-------------- Let's consider how our knowledge of types of abuse (by sign, house) can drive us to protect those at risk of this type of abuse.

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posted July 15, 2016 05:32 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Voix_de_la_Mer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
EDT: Interesting.

This wrongful peddling of Nessus ONLY as abuser, and being SOLD to unsuspecting people as such, is right up my Nessus in 9th street.

It is abuse through the use of metaphysics.

I must be a VERY convincing actor to being fighting this on here for what, 2-3 years??

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posted July 15, 2016 08:34 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote


This makes sense, M. You have a lot of courage to face yourself. As Jung says, we can ONLY heal the darkness by bringing it to the light. I have Jung conjunct my Sun. xx

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posted July 16, 2016 03:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MermaidDreamz     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Ami Anne
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posted July 16, 2016 03:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by MermaidDreamz:
I'm sorry to ask but does anyone have knowledge if Nessa is in retrograde how this might effect the person?

Retro anything makes for a recycling process and more thought and more depth, perhaps. With Nessus, the asteroid of the abuser, it may make the person more thoughtful and less apt to ACT on abusive impulses

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posted August 10, 2016 09:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MermaidDreamz     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted August 11, 2016 04:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you for your great comment, M.

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posted August 20, 2016 01:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MermaidDreamz     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Ami Anne
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posted August 20, 2016 02:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
LOL M

I am such a scattered earth void that I did not notice

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I have Nessus in the 3rd house. I admit that I don't have a good relationship with friends, relatives and my only sibling. If you talk to them, they may all call me a sweet and loving person, but unfortunately I always have to fake my behavior with them to some degree to prevent them from finding out the feelings that run beneath my surface.

I also have an intercepted house 3.

There are also other aspects in my chart contributing to my bad temper: moon square venus, lilith square moon, mars square mercury, saturn in the 7th house, mars in the 12th house, saturn square MC. But I am always trying my best not to let my nasty sides be leashed on other people.

When I am with people close to me, I can not stand them for more than an hour. I always make an excuse to leave. With complete strangers who know nothing about me I am fine though. But I always keep my friends at a distance. I have always been like this, since my childhood. My Leo ascendant doesn't help me be more social either..it just can't stand people's sh*t!


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pisces moon
taurus midheaven
leo ascendant
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posted August 21, 2016 10:28 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Welcome Girl!

Sounds like Moon and Venus squares

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