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Neptune's Muse
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posted May 19, 2006 09:45 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks Tameem! Spot on!

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Alisa
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posted May 19, 2006 02:43 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Iqhunk,

I like the analogy of potato. That makes me smile during bad day

You said “<<Would these two aspects enough to make any of them feel that there is sth. more than friendship going on? He or She would feel more? >>
If this is about your old twin flame, I cannot comment anything because even though astrology says something should happen, a man can psychologically block everything through mental power and conviction.”
Hmm, if my Amor or Valentine conjunct a guy’s sun, I probably can feel nothing to him if I do not want to feel
Node,

I do not know about Cupid.
Cupido in Uranian astrology means organization, company, union, family, etc.
I use it a lot for prediction.

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Venus De Milo
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posted May 20, 2006 05:12 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Venus De Milo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
This is such an amazing thread, thanks so much lqhunk, I've read every single posting... where did you learn all this about the asteriods? i would love to learn some more on my own without having to harrass you with questions! hehehe

I asked you some questions in the Pisces thread, so I hope I don't overlap and ask you stuff twice... but my LUST asteriod... is conjunct in synastry with his Saturn... and his LUST is conjunct with my IC? What do you think that means?

And I'm so curious about the meaning of his Valentine conjunct my natal Venus and Neptune (all exact on 19 of Sag).

Interestingly, we don't seem to have any aspects with Karma asteriod... well... actually... his Karma is at 16 of Gemini.. is that too far off to oppose 19 of Sag?

His Sun/Moon midpoint is at also at 16.5 of Sag. Any insight is very much appreciated. thanks for your efforts, this is really fascinating to read!

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posted May 20, 2006 05:12 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Venus De Milo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
double post, sorry!!!

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Iqhunk
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posted May 20, 2006 06:14 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi VenusD,
<<but my LUST asteriod... is conjunct in synastry with his Saturn... and his LUST is conjunct with my IC? What do you think that means>>
In general, it means you will not be able to freely express or fulfill all your sexual desires with him even though you find some of his Saturnian attributes to be a turnon, especially those attributes that you thought were the best of your father figure in life.
Saturn creates rigidity/structure and rigorous discipline, sometimes dampeners. Ofcourse, if he has transcended the preconceived limitations about sexuality, there should be no problem.

His Lust conjunct your IC means that he is totally turned on by your inner sense of being, the you of you.

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And I'm so curious about the meaning of his Valentine conjunct my natal Venus and Neptune (all exact on 19 of Sag).

Interestingly, we don't seem to have any aspects with Karma asteriod... well... actually... his Karma is at 16 of Gemini.. is that too far off to oppose 19 of Sag?
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It is a valid opposition. Valentine conj Venus means he will totally fall in love with you for your femininity and Venusian attributes. Karma oppopsition means some challenges will be there to balance some past life debts. Once done, the effect is over.

<<His Sun/Moon midpoint is at also at 16.5 of Sag. >> Which means his Karma opposes Sun/Moon midpoint. He is destined to balance his inner personality and subconsious emotions in this life to complete a past life lesson, the balancing lessons being challenging than easy.


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posted May 20, 2006 06:16 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Alisa wrote:
<< Hmm, if my Amor or Valentine conjunct a guy’s sun, I probably can feel nothing to him if I do not want to feel ? >>

Exactly! I got this startling info from a psychic spiritual astrologer. If you decide to block, then thats it, there can be no effect.

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posted May 20, 2006 06:30 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Venus De Milo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Wow, that was quick! thanks again. so much to ponder...

What you said about the father figure... YES. my father figure in life was my grandfather and something about this man has always reminded me of my grandpa... how he's so kind, so solid, dependable, etc.

further to this, they are both Virgo Moons, interestingly enough. My grandpa is a Cancer Sun though. I'm a Cappy Moon, so yo can see where the warmth, understanding and emotional affinity come from.

Spot on... thanks.

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posted May 20, 2006 11:55 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Taurus80     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted May 20, 2006 02:59 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
IQHUNK,
i would love to find out more about ..another guy though, pls help me out. im liking 2 ppl....mmm..still, i know i have to let one go, this love triangle should really be over and done with long long time ago, but i really having a hard time...so wht do u think about these aspects? the first one or this guy is a better bet? i really wanna know wht these aspects mean as well. I hope to find out...
thank U, thank U veryMUCH!!!!

My sun conjunct his lust & amor; My karma conjunct his lust; My amor conjuct his osiri; My pluto conjunct his eros; My cupid conjunct his valentine; My osiri conjunct his jupiter; My eros conjunct his IC; My IC & true node trine his cupid; My cupid trine his true node & DC; My moon & osiri trine his eros; our cupids are in sqaure of each other; My sun trine his valentine; My amor opposite his moon. My osiri sqaure his saturn.

(sorry, soo many aspects.)zzzz

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Taurus80
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posted May 21, 2006 12:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Taurus80     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
bump!

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Alisa
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posted May 21, 2006 07:27 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Iqhunk,

“<< Hmm, if my Amor or Valentine conjunct a guy’s sun, I probably can feel nothing to him if I do not want to feel ? >>
Exactly! I got this startling info from a psychic spiritual astrologer. If you decide to block, then thats it, there can be no effect.”
If I have Amor conjunct sun of 5 men, so I can decide to love 3 men only and do not feel anything to the rest 2 men? If yes, what synastry can play the role here if everything seems to be so under control?
Regarding the potato analogy, for example, Magi Society relates Juno to sex and mistress, not marriage. If more and more people join Magi Society, would Juno tend to relate more to what Magi defines although it probably does or does not?
Thanks
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posted May 21, 2006 08:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Love     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
IQ ~

I have a few questions about all of this if you have the time or inclination. There are two men with whom I am semi-involved.

With Man #1, in our Composite chart, we have Pholus conjunct Amor and Moon conjunct Psyche. What does that mean? I suspect I know but I would love your opinion.

Also, in one of the synastry charts it would seem that Man #2's Lust is in Aries 45'28" while my Venus is in Cancer 30' 7" and my Pluto is in Libra 55' 55". I think you wrote that Lust squaring one's Venus was baaaaad news.

As for the composite chart with Man #2, what do you make of us also having Lust in 24 Pisces 39 '39" and Amor in 20 Pisces 16' 27" ...as well as Venus conjunct Lust, Moon sextile Lust, Eros conjunct Ascendant, Sun conjunct Eros and Valentine trine MC?

If Man #2 and I do indeed have that square you were referring to (his Lust squaring my Venus) then would there be things to override that or is that some kind of astrological dealbreaker, so to speak?

This is sooooo fascinating.

Thanks,

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posted May 22, 2006 03:59 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Love     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Oh yeah! And Man #1's Juno conjuncts my Karma and my Pluto.

Thanks...

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Iqhunk
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posted May 22, 2006 04:53 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi Bullhead,
There is lots more sexual attraction with the second guy. It wont be as good in the long term as with the first guy. If you choose great sex and high risk of divorce, second guy is better. If you choose love and very low risk of separation, first guy is natural choice. It is upto you to decide.
I helped a Latin girl choose her husband a year back from two men, one European and one Australian. I asked her to look into their eyes and ask whether they would take a bullet for her. The one who looks into the eyes and says he would is the man to marry.
She is happily married (touch wood) to the one who said he would take a bullet for her.

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Alisa wrote:
<<If I have Amor conjunct sun of 5 men, so I can decide to love 3 men only and do not feel anything to the rest 2 men? If yes, what synastry can play the role here if everything seems to be so under control? >>
It wont work that way. Once you decide to give love a chance, the man from the 5 who has the maximum lovey dovey mutual aspects will be the one you get most attracted to.
If 3 of the 5 men are gay, then you will have to choose betwee 2 straight men, even if the gay men have 100 double whammy conjunctions with your chart.

<<Regarding the potato analogy, for example, Magi Society relates Juno to sex and mistress, not marriage. If more and more people join Magi Society, would Juno tend to relate more to what Magi defines although it probably does or does not? >>

Yes! The reason is because the basic function of the mythological force is not compromised since marriage and mistress both include sexual relationship. If everyone believes Juno governs Computer Software, it wont work
[It will work for what kind of girl pics a man likes to download though ]

If majority believe Juno governs the second wife instead of marriage or mistress, it will work that way.

Hope I am clear now?

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Iqhunk
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Taurus80 wrote
<<i was wondering what does isis conjunct osiris in a compostie chart mean????
thank you! >>

Chance for Culmination of Spiritual Fulfillment by merger of soul during sexual intercourse. Chance for Ascension to fourth dimension for both in the next life. Symbolically, it is as if the RIght Brain and Left Brain of the Higher Self are getting balanced in physical reality.

This is one of the greatest placements possible but it must have the Venus-Pluto or Karma-Moon-True Node-Ascendant double whammies in addition.

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Iqhunk
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Hi Love
<<
With Man #1, in our Composite chart, we have Pholus conjunct Amor and Moon conjunct Psyche. What does that mean? I suspect I know but I would love your opinion.
>>
He may hurt you in love without meaning to. Emotionally/Subconsciously he sees you as his wife whom he loves dearly.

<<Also Man #1's Juno conjuncts my Karma and my Pluto.
>>
70-80% chance you can be his fated wife.

<<I think you wrote that Lust squaring one's Venus was baaaaad news. >>
It is bad news but harmonious aspects can mitigate the negativity.

<<As for the composite chart with Man #2, what do you make of us also having Lust in 24 Pisces 39 '39" and Amor in 20 Pisces 16' 27" ...as well as Venus conjunct Lust, Moon sextile Lust, Eros conjunct Ascendant, Sun conjunct Eros and Valentine trine MC? >>

This will be a very sexual and passionate relationship, which may degenerate into threesomes and group sex or addiction to some sexual perversion to keep the relationship intact, if Neptune or Uranus is badly aspected in the composite.

<<If Man #2 and I do indeed have that square you were referring to (his Lust squaring my Venus) then would there be things to override that or is that some kind of astrological dealbreaker, so to speak >>

There is no singular astrological deal breaker. Chiron trine Moon, Saturn trine Mars, Sun trine Moon etc can help mitigate the negativity of Lust sq Venus. However, composite Lust conj Venus in Pisces is worse news.

Jenna Jameson has Venus in Pisces and a malefic Uranus opp Ascendant and Scorpio Moon may have enabled her to take to her porn career with gusto. When composite Venus is in Pisces, you have to make sure Neptune and Uranus dont do damage to Asc, True Node, Moon or Mars.

Uranus or Neptune sq Mars in your case with Man 2 either in synastry or composite is definite deal breaker. Man 1 is a safer choice considering the info you have given so far.

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posted May 22, 2006 05:48 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Love     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
IQ ~ Thanks so much for your reply. I checked and Man #2 and I do have Mars square Neptune so I guess that answers that!

Do you happen to do full charts for people?

Do you have a website or is this just a hobby for you because I have found your knowledge and info on asteroids and astrology to be very enlightening.

Love

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Hi Love,
It is just a hobby.
Occasionally I do full charts but I feel it is better if everybody studies their own chart and discuss what aspects they dont understand in forums like these where new points can be given. This way more useful knowledge repositiories can be created.

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posted May 22, 2006 11:10 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Taurus80     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
thank you Iqhunk!!!!!!

but i'm a little confused with this part..

"This is one of the greatest placements possible but it must have the Venus-Pluto or Karma-Moon-True Node-Ascendant double whammies in addition."- quote..

do you mean in synastry regarding conjuctions? and with the karma-moon-true node-ascendant do you mean all of them in conjuction? true node is the north node right? sorry..astrology still confuses me..lol thank you!!!!

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Hi T80,
It means Karma to Moon
or Moon to Asc
or Asc to Karma
or North Node (which is TrueNode) to Karma
or any of these possibilities in a double whammy. His to yours and yours to his.

There are atleast 3 precise double whammies in a twin soul relationship and in addition one precise Ascendant to lovey dovey asteroid or personal planet aspect.

If these were not so, then you can have a hundred twin souls as more than 100 babies are born every hour per country minimum. The exact Ascendant match makes sure only one twin soul is possible.

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posted May 22, 2006 01:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Taurus80     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
thank you again Iqhunk!

i don't believe i have the double whammy's you refered to above..oh well..lol but the other stuff i've stated on this thread i have..

when you say.. "There are atleast 3 precise double whammies in a twin soul relationship and in addition one precise Ascendant to lovey dovey asteroid or personal planet aspect"-quote
do you mean the ones stated above or other ones that may include the sun or other personal planets? i have a sun oppose mercury double whammy, sun trine venus double whammy.. sun conjuct moon/sun trine moon.. the earth and air in the charts seem to balance each other out..along with other things.. wow i think i'm confusing myself here!

you're great thank you for sharing!

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Hi Iqhunk
tks so much for ur reply!
the second guy....ur right, we have amazing sex. the best one so far! but i do feel a deeper level of bonding with the 1st guy.
mmmmm, they could be both sentimental, sweet & caring though...but both very much sexual jealous. So im still wondering does any of the aspects show the second guy connect with me emotionally?? Cuz every little thing i do i can easily influence how he feels.
tks again!!

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posted May 22, 2006 02:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Venus De Milo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I had some questions in the Pisces thread, but that one is getting lost in the shuffle, I would really love your input iqhunk!

His Valentine is exactly sextile my Pluto as well as conjunct Venus/Neptune, etc. What do you think that means?

Then, his Amor is conjunct my Sun & Mars and opposed my Jupiter (my Sun & Mars are also conjunct his IC, Jupiter is conjunct his MC)... My Amor is conjunct his Venus which is also conjunct my Vertex and DC!

Then, I have Valentine conjunct his Moon... Valentine is @ 24 Virgo and his Moon is at 25 Virgo

I've always felt this man is my soul mate and I'm just so afriad to believe this in case he's chosen to forget about me and move on. I can't pine for him if he doesn't feel the same, it would devastate me. When we're together, it just feels so amazing, like 2 pieces of a puzzle, so calming, like everything is right with the world.

I thought a lot about how my Lust is conjunct his Saturn and I think I know what it means. We've never been intimate, and I really feel we have a lot of sexual karma. Circumstances haven't allowed us to be together, and I think we have a lot of trials and hoops to jump through before we can be karmically evolved enough to be together.

Like we have to "earn" it, or something.

But other aspects, I've read indicate that we've been together and intimate in previous lives and I've always felt that whatever was between us was deeply karmic and sexually karmic... but not "base" at all... like it's from some higher plane or something. I think we are destined not to be together until the privelidge is earned.

This is just my conclusion from meditating on it...

With my ex husband, the only clear aspect I could find was his Amor is opposed my Valentine... is that positive or negative?

Thanks for any input or advice.

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posted May 22, 2006 02:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Love     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
What are these double whammies everyone is talking about? Do you find them in a synastry chart or a composite chart?

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