posted March 11, 2009 12:29 AM            

You must excuse me if I am quiet, as I have never heard of the Montauk Project. So that page you posted, has had me fascinated, so much to take in! It will take me days to integrate that information and assimilate it.

Thanks again pretty lady!

milyi-
You wrote:
"oneruledbymars thank you for your reply.It's interesting that I have a BA in ancient history and I have focused on Mesopotamia and ancient India in my studies.Hmm,It makes me wonder..."

posted March 11, 2009 02:05 AM            

They are in Ecliptic Longitude order

I only listed conjunctions to the luminaries and the planets up to Saturn and the Angles (ASC,DESC,MC,IC) and Vertex,Antivertex.

I used only 1 degree except for 1st Magnitude Stars which I give 2 degrees.

Menkib 4 Gem 35:15
Sceptrum 4 Gem 52:13
Saturn Rx 5 Gem 07:43
Hyadum I 5 Gem 25:10
Prima Hyadum 5 Gem 25:10

Aldebaran 9 Gem 24:12
MC 11 Gem 14:02
Tabit 11 Gem 32:07

Dubhe 14 Leo 48:10
Alminhar 14 Leo 54:16
Antivertex 14 Leo 58

Coxa 13 Vir 01:43
ASC 13 Vir 27:04

Ceginus 4 Sco 41:39
Sun 5 Sco 20:17
Gacrux 6 Sco 20:30

Mercury 18 Sco 20:31
Zuben Hakrabi 18 Sco 22:31
Zuben Eschamali 18 Sco 58:33

Unukalhai 21 Sco 40:36
Venus 21 Sco 47:19

Alniyat 7 Sag 24:16
Jupiter 8 Sag 16:55
Han 8 Sag 50:01

Antares 9 Sag 22:02
IC 11 Sag 14:02
Rastaban 11 Sag 33:17

North Lunar Node 10 Aqu 29:25
Albali 11 Aqu 20:01

VTX 14 Aqu 59:07
Alnair 15 Aqu 30:56
Rotanev 15 Aqu 57:11

Ancha 2 Pis 52:30
Sadalmelik 2 Pis 57:55
Moon 3 Pis 10:26
Fomalhaut 3 Pis 28:11

posted March 11, 2009 02:26 AM              

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as I have never heard of the Montauk Project. So that page you posted, has had me fascinated, so much to take in! It will take me days to integrate that information and assimilate it.

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Welcome Neo , you just swallowed the Red Pill

When i first read Iqhunk's posts on the E.T. realities and the origins of our DNA and the human race - i thought he was a certifiable nut gone astray

But i turned out to be a bigger freak than he will ever be

Gimme your email if you need even more red pills

posted March 11, 2009 02:41 AM            

I only listed conjunctions to the luminaries and the planets up to Saturn and the Angles (ASC,DESC,MC,IC) and Vertex,Antivertex.

I used only 1 degree except for 1st Magnitude Stars which I give 2 degrees.

RIGHT ASCENSION:

Alkes 14 Vir 35:55
ASC 14 Vir 45:04
Merak 15 Vir 02:19
Dubhe 15 Vir 29:58

Sun 3 Sco 02:39
Asellus Tertius 3 Sco 06:50
Arcturus 3 Sco 35:27
Syrma 3 Sco 37:52
Asellus Secundus 3 Sco 47:11

Princeps 18 Sco 35:18
Zuben Eshamali 18 Sco 52:10
Pherkad Minor 19 Sco 15:46
Venus 19 Sco 22:51
Pherkad 20 Sco 10:33

Cujam 6 Sag 01:35
Kajam 6 Sag 01:35
Jupiter 6 Sag 36:59
Antares 6 Sag 55:01
Kornephoros 7 Sag 14:58

Al Dhanab 28 Aqu 03:51
Mars 29 Aqu 01:07

Ancha 3 Pis 50:33
Moon 4 Pis 24:05
Sadalachbia 5 Pis 03:21

DESC 14 Pis 45:04
Fomalhaut 14 Pis 01:57
Scheat 15 Pis 36:26

DECLINATIONS:

10 minutes of arc

In declination order from South to North

Minkar -22:27:41
IC -22:47:08

Jupiter -21:12:01
Angetenar -21:06:55

Mercury -18:24:09
Oculus -18:18:20
Venus -18:10:10
Alkes -18:08:45
Difda -18:08:18

Algorab -16:21:27
VTX -16:20:38
Deneb Algedi -16:15:19
Zuben Hakrabi -16:08:56
Zubenhakrabi -16:08:56

Sun -13:18:15
Khambalia -13:14:32

Alphard -08:31:58
Moon -08:31:48
Zuben Elakribi -08:24:30

Alshain 06:20:12
ASC 06:30:25
Unukalhai 06:30:47

Antivertex 16:20:38
Alhena 16:25:36
Almeisan 16:25:36
Aldebaran 16:27:25

Saturn 19:02:23
Ain 19:07:20
Mesarthim 19:09:37

Wasat 22:02:11
MC 22:07:48

Raymond

posted March 11, 2009 03:25 AM            

Fomalhaut does have a planet that evolves around it called Fomalhaut b http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fomalhaut_b

Here is a youtube video about Fomalhaut and its planet http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LQ6Ll91YKvM&feature=related

Fomalhaut has its own kuiper belt like our Sun does. http://www.skyandtelescope.com/news/3310401.html?page=1&c=y

Right now, there are 342 planets discovered outside our solar system! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Extrasolar_planet

http://exoplanet.eu/catalog.php

That's weird.....it's a lot easier to discover planets outside our solar system than it is to discover planets inside our solar system? I guess the kuiper belt objects might be hiding some planets inside our solar system.

here is also a youtube video of an astrologer talking about fixed stars http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uffRSkL6n4c

You can also get a fixed star report done by Diana Rosenberg. http://ye-stars.com/

Raymond

posted March 11, 2009 09:17 AM              

just now i have managed to read all those information.

yet i didnt quite aprehended all as i should.

I must read more about the subject.

However i looked at me and my bf´s chart:

Bf´s

- SUN cj ZANIAH 1orb

"Order, congeniality, lovable nature, refinement, honour"

- NN 9cancer wide cj SIRIUS 14 Cancer

"Ambition, pride, emotionality, fame, leadership, wealth, fires, drought, danger through impetuosity"

- VENUS cj LABRUM 0 orb

"Honours, riches, ambition, psychic, chronic illness, dishonest income."??

- MOON cj ALNAIR

"
Retiring, active, proud, watchful, kind, idealistic, devoted, liking for astronomy, "the Bright One" true!!!!

- Saturn and Pluto cj SPICA tight

"Wealth, fame, honour, glamour, the "Fortunate One"

- VERTEX and MARS cj ANTARES

"A Royal Star. The Archangel Oriel, the Watcher of the West. Spirit of adventure, obstinacy, injuries to eyes, honours, sudden loss, stubborn, suspicious, violent, several marriages". Hmmmm hope not!

- His KIRON is closely cj ALGOL-THE MALEFIC..
How to interpret this one in particular?is it that bad??

- hIS VALENTINE cj ALDERAMIN

"Gravity, sternness, judgement, severe trials, poetry, drama"

- ASC cj PROCYON

"Violence, sudden success then disaster, occult, politics, dissipation" - I DONT LIKE THIS AT ALL..

posted March 11, 2009 09:27 AM              

- DNA cj SPICA exact

"Wealth, fame, honour, glamour, the "Fortunate One"

- URANUS cj ANTARES

" Royal Star. The Archangel Oriel, the Watcher of the West. Spirit of adventure, obstinacy, injuries to eyes, honours, sudden loss, stubborn, suspicious, violent, several marriages"

- MY ALMA EXACT CJ ALGOL ...Hmmm

- MY ATLANTIS/VENUS CJ REGULUS 1

"The most Royal Star. Raphael, the Healing Archangel, the Watcher of the North. Nobility, ambition, alertness, great power, status, leadership, sudden downfall, accidents, violence"

I TRY just to see the good influences :P

- MOON cj ZAURACK AND CAPULUS - DEAR GOD!

"Primitive male sexual energy; penetrating; ruthless; adventurous; dishonesty; mass effects, esp. meteorological "

"Melancholy, fear of death and suicidal tendencies"

but my MOON ALSO CJ RANA

"Love of knowledge, science, much travel, many changes, position of authority, accidents at sea, drowning"

Hmmm i do relate with the melancholy and fear of death YUP!

- ASC CJ ZANIAH

"Order, congeniality, lovable nature, refinement, honour"

my KARMA/VALENTINE/MARS cj GIANSAR and ACUBENS

"Penetrating and analytical mind, travel and many friends, craft, ingenuity, and valour, but danger of robbery and accidental poisoning"

" Astrology, writing, perseverance, domestic problems, poison, liars "

my NN CJ BELLATRIX/CAPELLA 0 orb and PHACT/EL NATH 1orb

"Loquaciousness, accidents, sudden dishonour "

Capella
"Inquisitiveness, open mindedness, powerful friends "

Phact
" Talent in art or science"

El Nath
" Luck, fortune, success, quarrels, headstrong"

and CJ in 2orb:

"Alnilam "
" Brief fame, quick temper, scandal "

Al Hecka
" Honours, wealth, power, greed, aggression"

posted March 11, 2009 11:22 AM            

More Red Pills!
*eyes light up*
lol
I'll take em

dariusbridges@gmail.com

Whats funny is when he did my reading, I winced because I knew it was true, and that I had alot of growing to do spiritually, and growth is more painful than fun, I don't care what anybody says!
But I wanna be like IQ when I grown up........so I guess its the rocky and narrow road to Ascension for me too.

lol

*suspicious look*
"I like you but I don't know about that Redstar, she seems a little questionable to me."
*glancing over my shoulder*
*leaning over*
*whispering*
"Did you know she performed sex experiments in Atlantis?"
"No".......
*still whispering*
"Really its true"

posted March 11, 2009 11:02 PM            

You are right hon there are no coincidences.

I guess its my turn to learn what part I play....

Atlantis (13 Taurus) Quincunxs My DNA (13 Libra)
Sextiles Sphinx (13 Cancer)
Sextiles Sirius
Sextiles Stargazer (12 Cancer)
Trine Anubis (14 Cap)
Trine Circe (12 Cap)
Trines Angel (11 Virgo)
Trines Valentine 12 Virgo)

posted March 12, 2009 12:45 AM            

Ecliptic longitude are the regular coordinates that we astrologers use.

I strongly recommend this program:

http://megadelfi.com/~jonathan/

posted March 13, 2009 02:27 PM              

Since I wanted to look a bit more into the history of Babylon, I ordered a book. Actually I didn`t even read anything about the content. Its title is "It began in Babylon", and I just felt irresistibly drawn to that title.

However, when it arrived today, I actually noticed that it is not the usual historical overview, but instead ties exactly into our subject of aliens and genetic experiments and so on.

The author even mentions Lilith, and interpretes her actually the same way that I always had. lol

And he`s speaking of "Lexx`s angels" and mentions the possibility that some of them are actually "soulenergy sucking ******** " (Lexx, you really never read a book on that? :eek ).
But he also sais, that there may exist two kinds of "angels" - the nasty ones, and those as we usually view them, as messengers of the light and positive.

I`m still a bit sceptical, especially about all these detailed informations on all these different species, but it`s surely interesting and fascinating.

And the most important thing he said as I feel is that the worst we can do is succumb to "fear" and "ignorance". Cause those negative emotions actually would feed malign entities (no matter if aliens or on the spiritual plane).

and then he ends the book with several pages on the power of love and forgiveness, but without becoming all preachy.

Oh and he also mentions Solomo and the queen of Sheba, which could be a manifestation of Lilith or having some symbolical resemblance with her, and I thought this was so interesting, as not long ago, I was thinking about the Queen of Sheba, too, when I realized I had a Sumerian past life.

It`s just so fascinating that so many pieces of the puzzle seem to be part of this book.

Interestingly he put a poem at the beginning:

"I don`t know what...

It`s as if I had forgotten something,
something, I don`t know what ?
I am wandering strangely hesitant
through the green of spring and falling leaves...

It`s as if I had dreamed something
something, that`s more than me -
I don`t know what and why should I believe
that one day I can remember again?

posted March 13, 2009 02:53 PM              

I made a multi-composite of myself with
DD, VenusDeIndia, RedStar, ORBM, Quinnie, Lara, TigerLily, PeaceAngel and Jane.

Our multicomposite reveals that:

1. We have Neptune in 13.3 Sag

2. KARMA is in 24.1 Gemini with the Sabian of a gardener trimming Palm Trees

3. SWINDLE conjuncts True Node 17.4 Cancer and squares DNA in 17.2 Libra

4. Ascendant is 12.2 Capricorn, Sabian:
"A Fire Worshipper Meditates On The Ultimate Realities Of Existence"

5. ATLANTIS is 26.1 Leo, trine G.C.

posted March 13, 2009 03:18 PM            

I have a prominent Atlantis too. I thought it was about my strong interest in mermaids!

if mermaids were real, I'd marry one!

How is that for my Moon in Pisces square Neptune,sextile Sedna?

hahahahaha

posted March 13, 2009 03:20 PM              

WOW, I`m completely stunned (and feel honoured that you included me in the multicomposite).

"1. We have Neptune in 13.3 Sag"
LOL It shouldn`t really surprise us now, should it?

"2. KARMA is in 24.1 Gemini with the Sabian of a gardener trimming Palm Trees"
How would you interprete that? That we are giving knowledge a "form"?

Interestingly Karma is opposing my natal Merlin and trines my Babylon exactly (actually the links to my chart are nothing short of amazing, at least I feel that way)

"3. SWINDLE conjuncts True Node 17.4 Cancer and squares DNA in 17.2 Libra"
Would would yout hink "SWindle" mean?

Intersting for me. My Saturn is on 16.5 Cancer. My own DNA is on 20.2 Libra and my Moon on 17 Aquarius.

What does DNA mean in a composite?

"4. Ascendant is 12.2 Capricorn, Sabian:
"A Fire Worshipper Meditates On The Ultimate Realities Of Existence""
Wow, what a powerful Sabian.

It`s actually conjunct my Spirit, but not on the same degree.

"5. ATLANTIS is 26.1 Leo, trine G.C."
And exactly conjunct my Somnium and opposing my Psyche - no wonder I started to dream so vividly. lol
Also trines my Sun exactly.

No surprise here that this multi-talk has made such a deep impression on me.

posted March 14, 2009 12:53 AM            

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And he`s speaking of "Lexx`s angels" and mentions the possibility that some of them are actually "soulenergy sucking ******** " (Lexx, you really never read a book on that? :eek ).

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But he also sais, that there may exist two kinds of "angels" - the nasty ones, and those as we usually view them, as messengers of the light and positive.

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Like moths to a flame who burn up....
Like ants to honey who drown and suffocate in it...But oooohhhhh...it's soooooo pretty....soooooo sweet......
Zaaaaaaap!

posted March 14, 2009 04:22 AM              

I was just doing some trial and error work based on thsoe who post a lot on specific topics like bloodlines and Atlantis.

Infact, what I am doing right now will explain further the Law of Attraction based on group karma.

Example:
If I make a chart of myself with AquaScorp, RedStar and Dazzled, there will be clear signs of Tantrik Past Lifelines for us as a soul group. Adding Raymond to this group may not give accurate results.
Likewise, myself with Raymond, Sunshine_Lion, Zala, HappyDragon and DD might show very strong connections to astrological learning, artistic topics, music [Pink Floyd? ] and so on.

Hang on, many more trials to do. This is a new chapter in my book itself now, on Group Karma.

People, this info holds the key to preventing things like say a Plane Crash. If only we get the natal info of all travellers in select airplane tragedies, there may never be any more such accidents.

posted March 14, 2009 06:55 AM              

thank you for the reply.

I think it`s only fair to let you know that I have grown more sceptical than ever, but I definitely wouldn`t trust anything that appears before me and tells me how special I am and that I am chosen. NO matter if pretty and winged or ugly and un-winged.

In my opinion (based on human interaction) people who don`t even know you and start telling you you`re special and chosen, most of the times have their own, often hidden, agenda and it`s a way to manipulate you into doing somthing that would be good for THEM.

I still think there are angels in a more positive sense, but I am absolutely sure that those angels would give us the time we need to develop and not pressure us into doing something.
Hmm, I guess, if anything I believe more in a sort of "supportive background angel".

However, I guess I`m really more with AG on this one.

Also most of the informations seem to come from channeling, and I deeply mistrust channeling.
Either it doesn`t work at all and then all we get is something that had been in the subconscious of the channeling person from the beginning (which still could be true, as form of a "stored universal knowledge").
Or it may work, but in this case, the same happens inside me like in the case with angels / people who tell me how special I am, I start looking for the hidden agenda and I do think there is a great risk of misinformtation, either intentionally or unintentionally.

posted March 14, 2009 08:36 AM            

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Lexx,
thank you for the reply.

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I think it`s only fair to let you know that I have grown more sceptical than ever, but I definitely wouldn`t trust anything that appears before me and tells me how special I am and that I am chosen. NO matter if pretty and winged or ugly and un-winged.

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In my opinion (based on human interaction) people who don`t even know you and start telling you you`re special and chosen, most of the times have their own, often hidden, agenda and it`s a way to manipulate you into doing somthing that would be good for THEM.

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I still think there are angels in a more positive sense, but I am absolutely sure that those angels would give us the time we need to develop and not pressure us into doing something.
Hmm, I guess, if anything I believe more in a sort of "supportive background angel".

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However, I guess I`m really more with AG on this one.

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Also most of the informations seem to come from channeling, and I deeply mistrust channeling.

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Either it doesn`t work at all and then all we get is something that had been in the subconscious of the channeling person from the beginning (which still could be true, as form of a "stored universal knowledge").

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Or it may work, but in this case, the same happens inside me like in the case with angels / people who tell me how special I am, I start looking for the hidden agenda and I do think there is a great risk of misinformtation, either intentionally or unintentionally.

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